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July 22, 2012 12:30:01 AM

Im looking to put together a rig that is going to run top end games (bf3 for example) on a 3 screen set up at 570 X 1080 with "high" settings at a decent playable level.

I have pretty much decided on everything but the graphics card(s).

Approximate Purchase Date: Mid to Late August

Budget Range:2500 ish(i could go higher if i felt there was a real need)

The monitors have already been purchased and are not figured into the budget.

This is what I'm aiming for so far

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower

Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W High Performance 80PLUS Silver

MOBO: GIGABYTE G1.Sniper 3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard OR ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL (could be persuaded into picking up only 8. 16 does seem a little over kill.)

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler

HDD: 3 x Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (configured in raid 5)

Im not doing a solid state price to performance increase just doesn't seem to warrant the ssd. Yes I know windows will boot up ultra fast launch programs quicker etc. I however don't feel i will die if i have to wait 60 seconds for my computer to boot up or 6 extra seconds for that map to load.

I havent decided If I will OC the i5 yet. I choose it for the ability to. I also chose it because I personally haven't seen a bench mark that warrants picking up a more expensive chip for a performance increase.

My only choice now is which video card would suite me best. I have never hooked up sli or xfire before. Im leaning towards 2 670's in sli atm though.

The reason for the 2 mobos is that I have a question. If I do sli could I hook up the cards on the g1 board in say slots 1 and 4 or 1 and 3 (i realize 1/3 will be at 8x) just to put some room between the cards for cooling? If not then the option will just be to use the AsRock board.

Anywaysi appreciate any feed back thanks.

EDIT: I'm a retard and some how screwed up linking....sorry..I'll try to fix it.
July 22, 2012 12:49:55 AM

CPU: You will want the 3570k, its newer and supports PCI-e3 which is important on SLI/Crossfire rigs. Its the Ivy Bridge equivalent of the 2500k.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: You want the Hyper 212 EVO, not the 212+. The EVO has a better baseplate which leads to cooler idle temps primarily.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: You can do 8GB, but RAM is so cheap why not 16GB. If you plan to use all the slots on the mobo, you will need low profile RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Caviar Blacks are fine, but you can get equivalent Seagate drives for a bit cheaper. They apparently perform a bit better as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: Get one, it is the easiest way to boost perceivable performance on any PC. Windows booting quickly isnt the only benefit.

GPU: For a triple monitor rig, you need plenty of VRAM. GTX670's only have 2GB, which may get strained when it gets hectic on screen. I suggest the HD7970, it will trade blows with a GTX680 for performance with the newest driver update and mild overclock, and most importantly comes with 3GB of VRAM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo question: PCI-3 8x is equivalent to PCI-2 16x. Running the cards PCI-3 8x/8x will have no negative affect to performance. I would get the mobo you think offers the most and best features.

For the linking, you put a space between the "=" and the web address. Backspace the url and it should work.
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July 22, 2012 1:25:27 AM

manofchalk got it right. you could technically get a 4gb 670 but it isnt really worth the spending.

for the power supply, id recommend the xfx xxx 750w instead. it is semi-moduiar so it helps with cabling. it sells for 114.99 and comes with a 10$ MIR at ncix.com

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62224&promoid=1261

here is the same power supply that you put down, but i found a much lower price

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55515&vpn=PPCMK2S750&m...


up to you to decide if the modularity is worth 40 dollars.


for the case, id get a haf xm since it looks like a haf x but without the huge size
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July 22, 2012 2:27:09 AM

As big a fan of nVidia as I am, for multimonitor, AMD is ahead. So 7970 is your best bet. A 2500k will be fine...there is almost no advantage to PCI-e 3. See the link:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI...

Several other tests have come up with the same results.

If the prices are comparable, get the 3570. Right now on Newegg the 3570 is only $10 more...at that point I'd get the newer chip...but don't do it because you think you need PCI-E 3.
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July 22, 2012 2:32:06 AM

Case - The HAF-X is the newest of the bunch but to my mind it'd outclassed by newer designs such as the Corsair 500R

MoBo - With that resolution, I'd want the capability to do Tri-SLI or dual CF and that comes with the ASUS P8Z77 WS. $553 with the i5-3570k CPU included

RAM:

At 16GB , I'd go with 2 x 8GB so as to not impede ya OC .... CPU memory controller has harder time with 4 modules than 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

At 8Gb, these 1.35 volt modules put less load on the CPU memory controller
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A $30 cooler in a $2500 build makes no sense.

At $80, you'll get 7-10C aboive the 212

1) Phanteks PH-TC14PE_RD $20 off w/ promo code Phanteks722, ends 7/22
Best thermal performance, very quiet, 5 year warranty
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2) Thermalright Silver Arrow....very quiet, performance just under phanteks.

3) Noctua NH-14 - performance just under Silver Arrow, only 1 year warranty, ugly as hell :) 

At $50 - The 212's big brother, Hyper 612 PWM or Scythe Mugen 3 .... both are good for 5-.76C above the 212
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD - RAID on a desktop ? I thought that idea died years ago..... unless you doing video editing, huge databases or sever loads, RAID not gonna give you any observable performance other then benchmark bragging rights. The Seagate Barracuda XT is the king of the hill

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Quote:
For a hard drive, the Barracuda XT series offers the best performance available from a 7200 RPM mechanical storage device.


Beware of the Barracuda w/o the XT designation .... they have a mighty chinsy 1 year warranty.

As for the SSD ..... my son has a THG tier 1 SSD and the above Barracuda

SSD boots to windows in 15.6 seconds
HD boots in 21.2 seconds

SSD loads MMO in 5 seconds
HD loads MMO in 45 seconds

Ya might also consider a hybrid SSD/HD like the Seagate Moments 750 GB....it boots windows in 17 seconds.

If ya get the SSD, The Chronos Deluxe is the only Tier 1 SSD on THG's Tier 1 category that can be had for under $200 ..... $199.99 :) ....... All the others are $249.99

For GFX, the choice ya would have to make is two 670's or two 7970's.....Normally I'd lean to the 7970 at your chosen resolution but while I have no issue with at some point moving to 3 or 4 of them in SLI, I would never do CF with more than 2 GPU's..... see the Guyru3D reviews on the topic for a detailed explanation.

For the PSU, that's gonna depend on how ya wanna limit the number of GFX cards ya may have. With the 670, figure 500W for the system and 1 card + 170 watts for each additional card and then, if overclocking, maybe 150 watts headroom for voltage stability

2 Cards = 500+170+150 = 820 say 850
3 Cards = 500+170+170 + 150 = 990 say 1000
4 Cards = 500+170+170+170+150 = 1160 say 1250

With the 7970, Id pick one from here:

http://support.amd.com/us/certified/power-supplies/Page...

The Corsair HX series is great (except for the 1000 and 1050 which are poor units), the AX series is also up there though ripple and voltage stability not up to the HX. Seasonic X series is also a fine piece of hardware.




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July 22, 2012 9:22:51 AM

wow thanks a ton guys i got alot of info to go over
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July 22, 2012 2:19:41 PM

Thanks to the info yall provided I dove into some research on the power supply and few other things including the ssd. I love the 7 year warranty on PC P&C and the review I found on this particular PS had it rated and the ripple was pretty low and provided clean power.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick with the CM HAF X 942 simply because of the size. Yes its huge but also has alot of room for the bigger E-ATX boards like the G1 Sniper 3.

CASE: CM HAF X 942
Power: PC Power and Cooling Silencer 910W High Performance
MOBO GIGABYTE G1.Sniper 3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9W
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
GPU: 2X GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
HDD: 3X(maybe just 2) Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
SSD: SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

What do you think about the changes?
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July 22, 2012 2:29:46 PM

the haf xm can support the sniper 3 fine

for the motherboard, id generally wouldnt do more than 2way SLI due to the fact that 3 or more video cards will be bottlenecked by the CPU. id suggest getting something nice like a maximus 5 formula

if you need 2 tb of storage, just get a 2tb drive instead of 2 1tb drives. save money. id get seagate because they are much cheaper and perform a bit better than caviar black

for the power supply, if you are getting 2way crossfire, id get a seasonic x750w psu. 149.99 and has a 15% off promo code at newegg. if you plan to do 3 way, id suggest a xfx pro1000w (80+platinum). the seasonic original doesnt have very long cables





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August 5, 2012 7:33:12 AM

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