Re-Upgrading an old Hp desktop

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Hello, I currently have a Hp pavilion a6400f tech specs: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=120&prodSeriesId=3677047&prodTypeId=12454&objectID=c01390590

I have previously installed a HD 5670 and a Corsair CX430 430w powersupply

now i want to upgrade the IPIBL-LB (Benicia) motherboard and Pentium E2200 CPU to a
ECS A960M-M2 AM3+ AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135314
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AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8120FRGUBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961
respectivly

In addition I would also like to upgrade my memory from the 3gigs to
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104173

total cost for this upgrade is around 250$

I would like to know if these would work properly together with the mobo, cpu, ram, powersupply, GFX card ETC..

P.S. This is my first time changing out the cpu along with the mobo, is there anything is addition to the things listed above that is needed for the upgrade such as a new operating system (i am currently running on Windows vista
home premium SP2 no backup cd for this)
 
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Whoa that's weird, I just bought that M5A78L today...I got it on Amazon for 42 bucks. I'm gonna use it with an old Athlon II X2 250, an 8600GT, and some other random parts I have lying around to make a linux build. You know, that motherboard I suggested was the one I really wanted, but it went up in price on Amazon and having a dedicated linux rig was only worth about 42 dollars to me anyways lol. It should be a good board though eh? seems to be somewhat reliable and has FX support. Too bad no USB 3.0, oh well.

Why do you want eight cores? If you plan on this being first and foremost a gaming rig, I honestly don't think the 8120 is what will make you happiest. How about the FX-6200? You can get it for the same price with the promo...
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what do you plan on doing with this system? gaming? editing? i ask because, while i like AMD, unless you are on a very tight budget, an Intel build is awfully hard to turn down. Anyways, here's a good couple of mobos and some RAM that i might suggest...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280

Basic RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095
Better RAM (low profile heatsink, cas 8, DDR3 1600)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148519

 
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For gaming. I can either upgrade to an AMD or intel since ill need to get a new mobo anyways. I just want to stop the spikes and hiccups when im playing on max settings because of the cpu running on 100% with the bottle neck

will the normal sized atx board even fit in my case? my original board is a micro ATX

here is my current set up
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417

AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8120FRGUBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3891137&SID=rewrite

still looking for a mobo for around 50-65

also is there a difference between a DDR3 1600 and DDR3 1333?
 
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I have to say, the best defense at the moment for CPU bottlenecks is Intel CPUs. On the other hand, I don't think very many current AMD CPUs will bottleneck your HD 5670. Another thing, if you do go AMD, I wouldn't go with that particular motherboard, ECS doesn't tend to make very good ones. here's one that, while a little more expensive at $80, will serve you much better...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280
 
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I am now limited to this set up
ASUS M5A78L-M LX PLUS AM3+ AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131795

or

MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) AM3+ AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130630



G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417

and

AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8120FRGUBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3891137&SID=rewrite

DDR3 1866(O.C.) / 1600(O.C.) / 1333 / 1066
it says 1600 (OC) does this mean that i would have to overclock my mobo in order for the 1600s to work?
 
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Whoa that's weird, I just bought that M5A78L today...I got it on Amazon for 42 bucks. I'm gonna use it with an old Athlon II X2 250, an 8600GT, and some other random parts I have lying around to make a linux build. You know, that motherboard I suggested was the one I really wanted, but it went up in price on Amazon and having a dedicated linux rig was only worth about 42 dollars to me anyways lol. It should be a good board though eh? seems to be somewhat reliable and has FX support. Too bad no USB 3.0, oh well.

Why do you want eight cores? If you plan on this being first and foremost a gaming rig, I honestly don't think the 8120 is what will make you happiest. How about the FX-6200? You can get it for the same price with the promo code on newegg, but it will run a lot faster at stock than the FX-8120 (unless you want to OC of course, in which case you'll need a decent heatsink like the hyper 212 evo or something for $35 more).
 
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for gaming with AMD you are better off with just a FX4100 or FX 4170 Quad Core. most games barely use two cores, having Six won't help. BF3 multi player 64 is about the only game that benefits from multiple cores and will play just fine on 4.

check out THG on sub $200 cpu's
starcraft 2 is CPU intensive, the more expensive AMD CPU's didn't do as well as the FX4100
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-6.html

 
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I realize this, however, he clearly wants more than 4 cores, so I figured the 6 core FX-6200 would be a good middle ground, especially considering it's only $20 more ($10 if he uses the current promo code on Newegg) than the FX-4170.
 
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I ended up getting the 8120 instead, Since i wont be using this computer much longer since ill be moving out after i graduate. I will convert it into a rendering machine instead and get me a better more proper gaming build. thus needing the more cores THX guys :D
 
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good deal bro, have fun with the build!
 
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