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Which is better for gaming?

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December 3, 2012 7:33:26 PM


Intel® Core™ i5-3450
AMD Radeon HD 7450 (1 GB dedicated)




AMD A4-3420
NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 (1 GB dedicated)


Note: I know, they are suckish..

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December 3, 2012 7:42:39 PM

Hands down, its the first build to me. Anyways are you buying this as a pre-built computer?
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December 3, 2012 7:51:46 PM

How about an i3 Ivy Bridge with a better graphics card? Or a Phenom II 965, FX-6300? Why does it have to be one of those two choices? Neither are ideal, as you mentioned. But why so firm on the selection?
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December 3, 2012 8:09:12 PM

Niether are worth bothering for gaming.
December 3, 2012 8:16:14 PM

Because They're the only choice I have.
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December 3, 2012 8:17:39 PM

Well like the others have said they aren't the best for gaming due to the weak video cards and the A4 being weak. I assume this is pre-built which is why you are limited in choice?

You could always build a custom built computer and save money...

Edit: Seen your new post, I guess you can upgrade the video card on the i5-3450. Though that wont be the most cost effective solution since you are paying for an already overpriced pre-built computer...
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December 3, 2012 8:24:06 PM

Psergiop2 said:
Because They're the only choice I have.

why only those 2?
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December 3, 2012 8:32:06 PM

Well, I'd pass on both of em, both of them are poorly balanced. The strong i5 cannot make a weak, entry level graphics card perform better, and the AMD rig is weak in both areas. .. *realizes I no longer have anything to contribute to this thread and shows myself the door*
December 3, 2012 10:57:07 PM

esrever said:
why only those 2?

Money.

Also I pretty much play games like Minecraft, GTA SA, M&B Warband etc... so, yeah...
Maybe one day I'll change the Graphics card.
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December 3, 2012 11:03:57 PM

Psergiop2 said:
Money.

Also I pretty much play games like Minecraft, GTA SA, M&B Warband etc... so, yeah...
Maybe one day I'll change the Graphics card.

See, these kinds of threads leave little information to help anyone give you good recommendations. Really you should be starting a thread in the Systems section of the forum, and using the form that can be found in the sticky to ask for proper advice. Information needed from you should include max budget, building the computer yourself, buying used, buying pre-built or finding one in the dumpster. What parts the budget needs to cover, things like keyboard, monitors, peripherals, etc. Nobody can really give you proper advice without input from you. Now, if you're dead set on those two ... to be blunt, crappy systems.. Well, I promise I'll go away for real this time, but.. I actually do know what I'm talking about, and so do some of the other people who have already posted in your thread.
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December 3, 2012 11:35:45 PM

Wow... you said money was the factor (I thought these were OEM computers). Would have been helpful if you stated that in your first post. Anyways +1 for asking this in the systems subsection. Either way custom building is the way to go and you generally want to balance out the cpu and gpu.
December 4, 2012 11:07:12 AM

socialfox said:
Wow... you said money was the factor (I thought these were OEM computers). Would have been helpful if you stated that in your first post. Anyways +1 for asking this in the systems subsection. Either way custom building is the way to go and you generally want to balance out the cpu and gpu.

I'm usin OSK so Its hard write alot. I've search Youtube and at some point I'll change the GPU.
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December 4, 2012 11:53:47 AM

Psergiop2 said:
I'm usin OSK so Its hard write alot. I've search Youtube and at some point I'll change the GPU.


Hey there, are you buying that build pre-built? Or is it custom? If custom you could step a bit down for the processor and get a better video card....
Or is this one of those pre-built "gaming" computers? We can help you choose a more balanced one if you want. At the end of the day, a custom built computer will cost less and yield better results.
December 4, 2012 6:58:49 PM

socialfox said:
Hey there, are you buying that build pre-built? Or is it custom? If custom you could step a bit down for the processor and get a better video card....
Or is this one of those pre-built "gaming" computers? We can help you choose a more balanced one if you want. At the end of the day, a custom built computer will cost less and yield better results.


Pre-built :??: 
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December 4, 2012 7:13:23 PM

Psergiop2 said:
Pre-built :??: 


Ah, I see...no wonder the video card and CPU is kind of unbalanced. What is your actual budget and which websites can you buy from? I can see if I can look for a better pre-built computer.

Anyways....sure you can't make a custom build?
December 4, 2012 8:03:35 PM

socialfox said:
Ah, I see...no wonder the video card and CPU is kind of unbalanced. What is your actual budget and which websites can you buy from? I can see if I can look for a better pre-built computer.

Anyways....sure you can't make a custom build?


"sure you can't make a custom build?" Yes, unfortunaly my parents won't let me.

Shops:
http://www.boxjumbo.pt/Frontoffice
http://www.radiopopular.pt/catalogo/produtoscategoria.p...
Budget 600€ [Paying monthly]
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December 4, 2012 8:13:42 PM

Psergiop2 said:
"sure you can't make a custom build?" Yes, unfortunaly my parents won't let me.

Shops:
http://www.boxjumbo.pt/Frontoffice
http://www.radiopopular.pt/catalogo/produtoscategoria.p...
Budget 600€ [Paying monthly]


Well it's a shame your backed in to a corner with very little choices to make. In truth that i5-3450 computer is the best (out of those choices) and its the only one with a significant saving on it...that being said grab that IF you can't make any other choices or you can't find any other websites you can buy off. Consider the video card upgrade, that computer houses a good processor but weak video card.

If you can look off of ebay, they may sell a computer for cheap there.
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December 4, 2012 8:19:24 PM

If you can buy a cheap computer with an i3 and spend a little money and buy the gpu from somewhere else. its an easy install and if you buy a 7750 or a 6670 you shouldn't have problems but would be much better than the computers listed for gaming.
December 4, 2012 9:34:21 PM

Yeah, I just don't find an available one.
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December 4, 2012 10:39:02 PM

Psergiop2 said:
And the GPU?


It says Geforce G505, never heard of that but must be really weak. I chose that regardless of the video card since you were going to replace it any way with a better one. I would suggest selling the G505 on a classified website to make some money.
December 4, 2012 10:47:21 PM

socialfox said:
It says Geforce G505, never heard of that but must be really weak. I chose that regardless of the video card since you were going to replace it any way with a better one. I would suggest selling the G505 on a classified website to make some money.


Was there any other with a nice CPU?
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December 4, 2012 10:50:52 PM

Psergiop2 said:
Was there any other with a nice CPU?


I believe not, from those two websites you provided us with. The i3 2120 is a pretty capable processor, I did that so you can up the budget on your video card...
December 4, 2012 11:04:16 PM

socialfox said:
I believe not, from those two websites you provided us with. The i3 2120 is a pretty capable processor, I did that so you can up the budget on your video card...


I what shoul I get for GPU?
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December 4, 2012 11:12:36 PM

Psergiop2 said:
I what shoul I get for GPU?


What's your resolution? For low resolutions the HD 7770 should do fine. However if you don't know the HD 7850 will do just fine with 1080p gaming and anything below that.
December 4, 2012 11:15:50 PM

socialfox said:
What's your resolution? For low resolutions the HD 7770 should do fine. However if you don't know the HD 7850 will do just fine with 1080p gaming and anything below that.


How much do these cost?
December 4, 2012 11:21:54 PM

Also; is Intel® Core™ i5-3450 worse for gaming then i3 2120?
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December 4, 2012 11:23:54 PM

Psergiop2 said:
Also; is Intel® Core™ i5-3450 worse for gaming then i3 2120?


I believe the 3450 is better than the 2120, however the difference is not too much. Not too many games are cpu bound and most look for the video card.

This is the HD 7850:
www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150617
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December 4, 2012 11:24:16 PM

Psergiop2 said:
Also; is Intel® Core™ i5-3450 worse for gaming then i3 2120?

Worse? No.. The 3450 will be identical or better depending on the game in question.
December 5, 2012 9:53:11 AM

socialfox said:
I believe the 3450 is better than the 2120, however the difference is not too much. Not too many games are cpu bound and most look for the video card.

This is the HD 7850:
www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150617


I just hope they have one at the store(or a similiar)
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December 5, 2012 10:04:04 AM

Not sure where you live but just phone the store ahead of time and ask if they have the HD 7850 instead of walking in the store and walking out in disappointment (happened to me quite a few times :(  )

If it is a big computer store they should have it, in my area all the Tiger Directs and Canada Computers have pretty much all the modern graphic cards. Heck they even have a select few AGP graphic cards (which is old).
December 5, 2012 7:38:33 PM

Surely a better buy then 1º one though?
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December 5, 2012 7:43:02 PM

Psergiop2 said:
Surely a better buy then 1º one though?


What was the price of the first build again? Kind of forgot :D 
December 5, 2012 8:33:57 PM

599€
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December 5, 2012 8:37:46 PM

Psergiop2 said:
599€


Ok last thing, forgot to mention it. Provide the actual link to that 599€ computer, need to compare the other specs like Hard drive size and ram.
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December 5, 2012 9:08:53 PM

Psergiop2 said:
Sry, Im kinda dumb xD

599€
Sold out I think; Cant find it..
If possible check any others bellow 600€

499€

http://www.boxjumbo.pt/Frontoffice/Informatica/DESKTOPS...


Grab the 499€ computer, its got a good processor (i3-2120), 6gb ram, and 1tb hard drive. Sell the GT 620 and make some money to invest in a better discrete video card.
December 5, 2012 9:12:39 PM

"Discrete"?
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December 5, 2012 9:13:58 PM

Psergiop2 said:
"Discrete"?


Discrete just means its a separate video card. One you add on to the computer via PCI-e slot. There are also integrated video which is in either the motherboard or CPU.
December 5, 2012 9:17:43 PM

I see, altho I'll have to use the 620 for a while.
Just to know, how much FPS should I get at Minecraft?
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December 5, 2012 9:22:27 PM

Psergiop2 said:
I see, altho I'll have to use the 620 for a while.
Just to know, how much FPS should I get at Minecraft?


Not sure about how much FPS you will get at Minecraft...never owned the card but how old is Minecraft? If its a new game then you may not be able to run it smoothly with high settings.
December 5, 2012 9:31:21 PM

Use Youtube xD
Seriously the graphics will surprise you!
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December 5, 2012 9:33:46 PM

minecraft should run well.
December 5, 2012 9:59:06 PM

esrever said:
minecraft should run well.


Thxs :3

socialfox said:
Wait is this the game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr5-sYRSaAY

Doesn't look so graphically intense (in terms of a video card)....


Yep, my laptop just sucks...

I plan on doing a Let's Play xD

Also how would it run Skyrim?
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December 5, 2012 10:37:38 PM

Psergiop2 said:
Thxs :3



Yep, my laptop just sucks...

I plan on doing a Let's Play xD

Also how would it run Skyrim?


Take a look for yourself ;) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bogAOW7xBsM
Gt 620 with FX-4100, the i3 2120 should be a better CPU. This is playing at the low resolution of 1152x720 and with high settings. Roughly 25 fps, lower it to medium and you should be able to play it with okay FPS.
December 5, 2012 10:45:17 PM

Awesome! Love ya xD
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