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First time building, final check on compatibilities

My last thread turned into an argument between users so I'm going to try again with a new thread :??:


Approximate Purchase Date: Within a few days

Budget Range: $800-$900

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (Heroes of Newerth, Starcraft 2, Diablo III, etc), surfing the internet, watching movies, picture editing

Are you buying a monitor: NO

Do you need to buy OS: YES

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Microcenter

Location: Tustin, CA

Parts Preferences: I would like to upgrade to Intel i7-3770 CPU with NO intent to overclock. SSD is iffy because of reviews on how they die after < 1 year.

Overclocking: NO

SLI or Crossfire: NO

Your Monitor Resolution:
-Currently set at 1280x768 but it can go up to 1360x768 (19" Samsung LCD)
-Looking to dual screen in the future


And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Laptop is getting very old (6+ years). Need something that can handle mmorpg games as well as photoshop, editing, etc.


Our current hardware that we researched is thus:

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4 GHz processor ($259.99 @ Microcenter)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0388576

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-544&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=3#scrollFullInfo
Or ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Z77 ATX Intel Motherboard (129.99 @ Microcenter)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Motherboards%20-%20Intel-_-ASUS-_-13131837&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=

Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Microcenter)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 ($43)

Hard Drive: Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ($71.99 @ Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

Hard Drive: Will purchase secondary HDD in the near future.

PSU: Corsair builder Series 600 Watt ATX 12V Power supply ($72.99)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361423

Case: Coolermaster Storm Scout ATX case ($64.99)

OS: Windows 7 w/upgrade to Windows 8 ($100)

Video Card: Any suggestions? looking for about <$200 for one. Hoping to dual screen in the future. Not going to SLI or Crossfire. The monitor we're going to use for it right now is currently set at 1280x768 but it can go up to 1360x768 (19" Samsung LCD)


Going to be used for gaming (Heroes of Newerth, LoL, Starcraft II, Diablo III, Guild Wars 2, etc), photoshop, minor video editing. As for the hard drive, everyone keeps suggesting/pushing to go SSD and to put the OS on it so the boot time would be ridiculously fast. However, everywhere that I read, a good 20% of SSD owners have failed drives within a year. Doesn't seem like a good investment and seems risky? Thanks for your info. Hoping to finalize build and check compatibilities so that we may start purchasing parts tomorrow! :lol:
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    Sorry your post went awry.

    Some games require you to install on the C: drive. While there are workarounds for this, I would really recommend at least 128GB for a gaming rig.

    That's NOT a good price for a cheap PSU at all.

    Here's a better PSU at a better price
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094
    That's enough power for you, yes. You can't afford any GPU that will tax it.

    When you read user reviews, you do not see an accurate picture. People that are unhappy with a product are far more likely to write a user review, skewing the results.

    I don't think a 64GB SSD is a great choice for a gamer though. Far better to buy a 500GB HDD up front, if your budget won't allow a 128GB SSD.

    Your best buy is really a 7850
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-4.html

    Given current prices
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600286767%20600298542&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%207850

    Your usage is primarily gaming. You should save money and get one of those microcenter i5 combo deals... put the savings into the GPU.

    Bundle the i5-3570K and the ASRock z77 Extreme 4. Perfect.
    http://www.microcenter.com/specials/catalogs/index.html

    If that saves you enough after the 7850, grab a 128GB Crucial M4 SSD.
  2. i have the ga h77 board an its fine for me, not overclocking so h77 is fine

    get at least a 120gb its best to have a 50 spare gb than try an save a few to fit on a 64

    best be in the near near future, my ssd has 60 gb used an no games or anything just basic software lol
  3. Thanks for the help Skaggy and Proximon. One question though. What did you mean by not being able to afford any GPU that will tax it. Would the 7850 need more power than the 520 Watt PSU suggested?

    Here's an updated list now after your recommendations. This system is for my girlfriend and she really wants the i7 core over the i5 core bundle from Microcenter.


    CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4 GHz processor ($259.99 @ Microcenter)
    http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0388576

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] llFullInfo

    Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Microcenter)

    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 ($43)

    Hard Drive: Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5” 120GB SATA III SSD (119.99 @ Newegg)
    -89.99 after mail in rebate card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233191

    Hard Drive: Will purchase secondary HDD in the near future.

    PSU: SeaSonic S12ll 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS Bronze ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    -15% off w/promo code EMCHNCHN24 by 7/26
    http://www.newegg.com/....=1#scrollFullInfo

    Case: Coolermaster Storm Scout ATX case ($64.99)

    OS: Windows 7 w/upgrade to Windows 8 ($100)
    http://www.microcenter.com/single...id=0361169

    Video Card:
    (1) EVGA 01G-p3-1460-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Exp 2.0x16 HDCP SLI ($179.99)
    -$149.99 after mail in rebate [minimum 450 Watt or greater power supply]
    http://www.newegg.com/Prod...lFullInfo

    OR

    XFX DoubleD HD-687A-ZDFC Radeon HD6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Exp 2.1x16 HDCP CrossfireX ($184.99)
    -$159.99 after mail in rebate [500 Watt or greater power supply]
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521
  4. I mean that a 520W PSU such as that will power ALMOST any video card. The exceptions would be a GTX 690, which it could run but would probably tax the PSU too hard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600315498%20600328254&IsNodeId=1&name=GeForce%20GTX%20690

    and the Radeon 6990
    http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-GDDR5-MINIDP-HD699AENF9/dp/B004RB6SUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343080275&sr=8-1&keywords=6990
    Which would probably be too much for it.

    Both those cards cost $1000, more than your entire budget.

    Make sure your girlfriend understands that she will get better performance in games from a better GPU, such as the 7850 or at least the GTX 560ti. She will not see a difference in any game from having the i7.

    The difference between the two CPUs is hyperthreading. Hyperthreading is not present in the i5. Look what happens in one game when hyperthreading is turned OFF:


    Source
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-13.html

    Performance actually goes UP a bit.

    Because you can spend the money saved on the better GPU, you are effectively worsening game performance by using the i7.
  5. I see what you mean. We took your advice and got almost everything at Microcenter today. Pricing was better than Newegg or Fry's and most of our items had rebates on it. Final parts are as followed:

    Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4 GHz ($189.99)
    Gigabyte GA-z77X-UD3H ATX LGA 1155 Motherboard ($99.99)
    Cooler master Hyper 212 Plus ($19.99)
    PC Power & Cooling MKIII Silencer 600W PSU ($59.99)
    Crucial M4 128 GB SSD ($114.99)
    Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 ($43)
    Coolermaster Storm Scout ($64.99)
    Windows 7 Home Prem SP1 64-bit ($99.99)
    DVD Writer Model SH-222 ($15.99)

    Thank you very much Proximon for your help and input into our first build. We'll let you know how it goes. Will probably start building this week and look into a GPU next weekend!
  6. Best answer selected by m00nlitblade.
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