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July 23, 2012 6:02:33 PM

So I recently decided to upgrade my crappy dell inspiron laptop to something that would be able to play even a youtube video without overheating. I had originally planned to buy a pre-made desktop for ~800$, but then I noticed that it really wasn't any better than what I have now. I've probably spent most of the summer looking at possible builds, and I think I may have finally found a good combination. Unfortunately, I seem to have picked out a little bit too much computer for my budget (it doubled). I have no problem saving up the required amount of cash if that would be the best move, but if at all possible I want to cut down on the cost some--the steam summer sale is going on, and I can't play any of the games I bought because of the lag. This desktop would need to be able to play games like skyrim and bf3 on high detail with a nice solid frame rate of more than 2fps (aiming for about 40-50 avg). I would like to have the option to overclock, although I may decide not too. Also, this desktop will last me about 6-8 years, although it doesn't need to run games on high the whole time. Anyways--the specs;

Intel Core i5 3570k-218$
Would prefer to keep this processor, but an i5 2500k is doable is needed. I may overclock in the future, but not from the get-go.
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-2500K-Processor-1155/d...

EVGA GTX 670-400$
Heard good things about this card, would also like to keep. I actually spent most of my research on this, the i5, and the mobo, so these are probably my base things that I don't want to change.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Sabertooth Z77-240$
I can deal with exchanging this for something cheaper, but it seems like a good price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair Hydro H100-110$
This is where I got confused (call me stupid)--Should I run air or water? If I overclock, I understand that water will perform better, and I imagine that it's quieter. If I do decide to go the H100 route, do I need to buy any fans to replace stock ones or any fans just to add to it? Or can I just run the 2 stock fans on the H100 and still get good results? I'm open to any suggestions here.
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-Extreme-Performanc...

Corsair 850w PSU-127$
Before you say "850w is too much!", hear me out. If this build goes as planned, I would like to be able to SLI the 670s in the future instead of upgrading to the most high tech, BA GPU available at the time. From what I understand, SLI nets you pretty good results for a low price compared to some other super cards. I would probably SLI when my desktop becomes obsolete and requires it--I don't plan on doing that for a while. The PSU seems expensive, though.
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Enthusiast-Certified-Comp...

Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD 1tb-90$
Don't know much about other brands--but I deff want 1tb. That's just the right amount of space for me. And it has a cool name.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial 128gb ssd-107$
This is where I think I went overboard. I don't need an ssd, but they seem so cool. And fast. And cool. If I have to scrap this, though, I won't be devastated. Far from it. And, if I do get rid of this, it's not impossible to add one later.
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT12...

Corsair Vengeance 8 GB 2 x 4 GB RAM-54$
I like Corsair, so I would prefer to go with this over G.Skill or whatever. I deff need 8gb-4 is too little, 16 is too much. I don't see why I would need to change this.
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Platfor...

Corsair Special Edition Graphite Series 600T Mid Tower (the white one)-168$
It looks like a case that I would be proud of. I like the space, and the design is much better than the HAF thing.
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CC600TWM-WHT-Special-Grap...

ASUS DVD drive thing-21$ (84$ if I need more than one-confused again)
Do I even need to buy one of these? I'm guessing yes, unless the 600t comes with them (does it?). And if I do need this, do I need to buy 1 or 4? I don't want to cheap out-if the 600t holds 4, which it looks like it, then I'm getting 4.
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD-RW-Serial-Internal-DR...


Don't think I missed anything...
The non-desktop building stuff.


Oh man-here comes the most wasteful of all:
ASUS 24in HD LED monitor with webcam and speakers-205$
This looks great, except the price. I would love to find a nice 24in HD monitor that has LED backlight things for about 150$. Or less. I don't want the webcam or speakers-I never skype, and I won't be using those speakers anyways. But not buying a monitor is not an option--I don't have on currently.
http://www.amazon.com/VK248H-CSM-24-Inch-Full-HD-Integr...

Logitech Wireless Combo Mk520 With Keyboard and Laser Mouse-50$
50$ is too much, but I tried to go bang for the buck here. My next option was a 20$ set that crapped out on the mouse.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-Keyboard-...



Total: 1,853$

I don't have an exact budget, but I don't want to spend nearly 2,000$ on a desktop. Key word: want. I will spend the money if this is the best desktop I could get without emptying my bank, but there are some aspects of this comp that I thought were pretty expensive. Any help would be appreciated.


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July 23, 2012 6:06:19 PM

750W is enough for 2 GTX 670s in SLI. Get the TX750 V2 from newegg for $100. Do you really need the features of the Sabertooth? I usually advise against 24" 1080p monitors due to their low pixels per inch. Get a 23" 1080p LED monitor instead.
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July 23, 2012 6:13:04 PM

1: get a 750w psu like a xfx xxx 750w. its 104.99 after MIR at us.ncix.com

2: get a gigabyte z77x-ud3h motherboard instead as it has about the same features for 100 dollars less

3:corsair ram doesnt fit under anything. just go to newegg and grab a pair of gskill ares 1600mhz for 45.99

4:id grab a carbide 500R case instead since it is cheaper and has better thermals. there is a white version if you like it

5:no thanks with the H100. a noctua nh-d14 does the same job for cheaper and quieter

6:id grab a asus vs228h-p monitor instead as larger screens will have lower pixel density resulting in less sharp pictures

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July 23, 2012 6:14:41 PM

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ASUS Sabertooth Z77-240$
I can deal with exchanging this for something cheaper, but it seems like a good price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131821

Corsair Hydro H100-110$
This is where I got confused (call me stupid)--Should I run air or water? If I overclock, I understand that water will perform better, and I imagine that it's quieter. If I do decide to go the H100 route, do I need to buy any fans to replace stock ones or any fans just to add to it? Or can I just run the 2 stock fans on the H100 and still get good results? I'm open to any suggestions here.
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Seri [...] B0051U7HMS


This immediately is where the build goes overboard - you don't need the Sabertooth as it's way overkill, and the H100 can be dropped in favor of a less expensive cooler. Where it can get really expensive is when you start replacing the fans that Corsair includes with Noctua PWM fans and that can get really pricey.

I'd recommend this for your motherboard and cooler - you'll save a good $100+:
- Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Hyper 212: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Corsair Special Edition Graphite Series 600T Mid Tower (the white one)-168$
It looks like a case that I would be proud of. I like the space, and the design is much better than the HAF thing.
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CC60 [...] B004O0PAKW


I have that same case and it's great but it is quite pricey. You could certainly go with a far less expensive offering from Corsair and still get the same looks and features: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Alternately I'd suggest the NZXT Phantom and Azza Hurrican 2000:
- Azza: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($124 with rebate)
- NZXT: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Crucial 128gb ssd-107$
This is where I think I went overboard. I don't need an ssd, but they seem so cool. And fast. And cool. If I have to scrap this, though, I won't be devastated. Far from it. And, if I do get rid of this, it's not impossible to add one later.
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5- [...] crucial+m4


You can - the only thing you'll be losing is fast loading and booting times. I personally won't build a system without an SSD now.

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ASUS DVD drive thing-21$ (84$ if I need more than one-confused again)
Do I even need to buy one of these? I'm guessing yes, unless the 600t comes with them (does it?). And if I do need this, do I need to buy 1 or 4? I don't want to cheap out-if the 600t holds 4, which it looks like it, then I'm getting 4.
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD- [...] l+dvd+asus


Why would you get four? Seems like a bit of a waste. No cases don't come with them. The Graphite 600T can only hold three of them. I never use more than two.

Try a system like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($188.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Plextor PX-M3S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS112-04 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1583.39
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-23 14:13 EDT-0400)
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July 23, 2012 6:17:33 PM

What does the UD5H have that the UD3H doesn't?
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July 23, 2012 6:18:18 PM

dual gigabit lan and the ud5h has a few more power delivery phases than the ud3h. the ud5h is still cheaper than the sabertooth
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July 23, 2012 6:50:55 PM

TheBigTroll said:
dual gigabit lan and the ud5h has a few more power delivery phases than the ud3h. the ud5h is still cheaper than the sabertooth


You could go with either one and be fine, the UD5H also has extra SATA ports and operates PCI Gen 3 at x8 instead of x4. The Biostar is also a good choice and you save like $140, and it was an editor's choice today: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-express-ivy-bri...
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July 23, 2012 7:44:00 PM

Best answer selected by ThatOrangeGuy.
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July 23, 2012 8:12:18 PM

Thanks everybody. I replaced my RAM with low profile Corsair, the PSU with a Corsair 750w (I like Corsair, can you tell?), and the optical drive thing turned out to be cheaper than I expected. I wasn't able to find a case like the 600t, so I'll end up settling for the best possible option. I already have the OS, so that isn't a factor. I replaced my monitor with a 23in monitor suggested by The Big Troll and Azeem. I thought about a new mobo, but the Gigabyte had varying reviews, while my ASUS seemed to get pretty positive reviews. Your right-the H100 did seem pretty overkill. I replaced that with the Noctua NH-D14. My only gripe was that this was a very ugly fan--will it be viewable from the side panel of the 600t?
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July 23, 2012 8:27:06 PM

yes it will be

the 500R white edition will hide the nh-d14 fine and it will have better thermals. if your 600t has a window, you will see the heatsink easily. if it has the mesh, you cant see it at all
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July 23, 2012 8:44:14 PM

Oh man- now its looks vs price. I'm so bad at this. I keep saying "whats another 40$ then pretty soon I have the best, most pricey thing out there. Thats how I ended up at the h100.
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