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July 23, 2012 9:15:25 PM

Okay, I originally had a build in mind that was based off of an FX 4100 and a 7950, but alot of reading has me worried that the FX 4100 will just totally throttle me on BF3 multiplayer, and that is unacceptable. So I am kind of asking for 2 things in this post, 1. Should I be worried about the FX 4100? 2. Can you help me build a PC that will run BF3 on High at 1920 x 1080 for $900 using an intel processor.

A few notes, I could use my FX 4100 build and instead get a 965 BE, thoughts?

Also, I don't need an OS, monitor, Optical Drive, or mouse and keyboard. I like overclocking and may run SLI or crossfire in the future. My budget is very firm.
July 23, 2012 9:22:42 PM

If you just want to play BF3, just get an XBOX and call it done.
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July 23, 2012 9:24:08 PM

Yes, you should be worried about the FX-4100 for anything. The 965 is a much more capable processor, and yes, I can.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cQJj

Absolutely bad ass if I do say so myself.
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July 23, 2012 9:25:59 PM

iknowhowtofixit said:
If you just want to play BF3, just get an XBOX and call it done.

WTH are you doing here then?
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July 23, 2012 9:30:08 PM

nekulturny said:
Yes, you should be worried about the FX-4100 for anything. The 965 is a much more capable processor, and yes, I can.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cQJj

Absolutely bad ass if I do say so myself.



take this build and drop the optical drive(op doesnt need it) replace it with the 20$ hyper 212 or the 30$ 212 evo on newegg i believe. if you can bump the 7870 to the msi 7950 if you can handle the budget change
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July 23, 2012 9:32:00 PM

nekulturny, I really dig that build man! I've heard the 7870's are beasts when you OC them. I'll probably just get rid of the drive, cause I have one and use that money for a coolermaster 212. BTW, is that board capable of running Crossfire?

Oh and to the guy posting about the Xbox 360, I come to Tom's when I need real computer advice, not to be trolled.
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July 23, 2012 9:34:11 PM

jstanley11 said:
nekulturny, I really dig that build man! I've heard the 7870's are beasts when you OC them. I'll probably just get rid of the drive, cause I have one and use that money for a coolermaster 212. BTW, is that board capable of running Crossfire?

Oh and to the guy posting about the Xbox 360, I come to Tom's when I need real computer advice, not to be trolled.



yes the extreme3 is sli/crossfire certified and will run them in standard 8x/8x lane speeds
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July 23, 2012 9:35:52 PM

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July 23, 2012 9:39:19 PM

Redeemer, I don't like the i5 2310 because I believe it is locked. Also the GTX 480 is a killer card but has huge issues with heat.
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July 23, 2012 9:41:19 PM

nekulturny said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cQJj

Absolutely bad ass if I do say so myself.

ha!
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cQNe
:lol: 
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July 23, 2012 9:42:33 PM

jstanley11 said:
Redeemer, I don't like the i5 2310 because I believe it is locked. Also the GTX 480 is a killer card but has huge issues with heat.



I understand however the i52310 blows the FX4100 out of the water. Sure the GTX 480 runs hot but its still a performance beast and it will run BF3 no problem. With your budget you dont really have many options, if you want to overclock and have all other fixings and such luxuries then you need a bigger budget
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July 23, 2012 9:53:53 PM

Anonymous said:
WTH are you doing here then?


If all he wants to do is play BF3. There is no reason to build a PC. A console will do that. Now if he wants to play BF3 and do some other stuff, then a PC would be more justified.
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July 23, 2012 9:57:13 PM

iknowhowtofixit said:
If all he wants to do is play BF3. There is no reason to build a PC. A console will do that. Now if he wants to play BF3 and do some other stuff, then a PC would be more justified.



to be fair, the OP never stated that BF3 was the only thing he will be doing. He most likely would have had a purpose on buying a computer if he took the time to go look for one and make a post about it.
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July 23, 2012 9:57:14 PM

Anonymous said:
ha!
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cQNe
:lol: 

7970>GTX 670 all day long. Other than that, you're build is a locked multiplier CPU :pt1cable: 
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July 23, 2012 9:59:49 PM

jstanley11 said:
nekulturny, I really dig that build man! I've heard the 7870's are beasts when you OC them. I'll probably just get rid of the drive, cause I have one and use that money for a coolermaster 212. BTW, is that board capable of running Crossfire?

Oh and to the guy posting about the Xbox 360, I come to Tom's when I need real computer advice, not to be trolled.

Thank you. Yes the 7870s are pretty nice, yes that board supports crossfire. If you want, to step up to the 7970, with their recent drive updates, they actually knock the GTX 670 off their high horse, now to be fair the GTX 670 is newer and I'm sure Nvidia will fireback with driver updates of their own, but they're both Titans. (GTX 680s aren't even worth considering since they cost $100 more and barely outperform the 670)
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July 23, 2012 10:18:21 PM

nekulturny said:
7970>GTX 670 all day long. Other than that, you're build is a locked multiplier CPU :pt1cable: 



7970 is a monster and deserves to be in a higher end rig with at least an i52500k/3570k
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July 23, 2012 10:23:36 PM

iknowhowtofixit said:
If all he wants to do is play BF3. There is no reason to build a PC. A console will do that. Now if he wants to play BF3 and do some other stuff, then a PC would be more justified.

PC Gaming>Console gaming, yes I'll say it again, all day long.
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July 23, 2012 10:26:36 PM

redeemer said:
7970 is a monster and deserves to be in a higher end rig with at least an i52500k/3570k

Heh, if PileDriver turns out to be any good I was considering dropping one in with an FX-8320. But probably not justifiable for the amount of gaming I do, I'd probably just go with a 7870.
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July 23, 2012 10:36:06 PM

nekulturny said:
Heh, if PileDriver turns out to be any good I was considering dropping one in with an FX-8320. But probably not justifiable for the amount of gaming I do, I'd probably just go with a 7870.



IMO, if Piledriver can fit that sweetspot inbetween the i3 and the i5, then it would be a job well done.
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July 23, 2012 11:07:38 PM

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Adds a SSD but runs a 480...in game BF3 will run maxed and boot times an map loads will be fantastic. (If you hate the idea of the 480 sub in a 7850: http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemLi...) Also, drop the CD drive and pick up a CPU cooler.
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July 23, 2012 11:08:51 PM

nekulturny said:
Heh, if PileDriver turns out to be any good I was considering dropping one in with an FX-8320. But probably not justifiable for the amount of gaming I do, I'd probably just go with a 7870.



I bet your itching to upgrade, from the looks of it Piledriver will be a more than worthy step up from your current cpu. I haven't built a AMD based system in a while now, looking forward to build one soon hopefully with an AMD 8000 series gpu
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July 23, 2012 11:16:12 PM

redeemer said:
I bet your itching to upgrade, from the looks of it Piledriver will be a more than worthy step up from your current cpu. I haven't built a AMD based system in a while now, looking forward to build one soon hopefully with an AMD 8000 series gpu

Not that much lol, honestly theres nothing I do on my computer that my Phenom II gives me any trouble with, I didn't even need to overclock it really. You know how it is? You just want to because you can. :lol: 

The 550 TI is an AMP edition, it works pretty well, but in hindsight I should have gotten a 6870. I'm still running dual VGA monitors though, I have to deal with that before I really worry about a more powerful GPU.
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July 23, 2012 11:18:14 PM

redeemer said:
I bet your itching to upgrade, from the looks of it Piledriver will be a more than worthy step up from your current cpu. I haven't built a AMD based system in a while now, looking forward to build one soon hopefully with an AMD 8000 series gpu


not for my build, im probably getting an i5-3570k/2500k when i have the money for it. Im also building a build for my friend, and building an amd build sounds a bit fun, as they get cheaper mobos with better stuff on them for the price and of course the ability to attempt overclocking has always been a plus for AMD.

well on my end that is, not sure about nekuls
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July 23, 2012 11:41:21 PM

dudewitbow said:
not for my build, im probably getting an i5-3570k/2500k when i have the money for it. Im also building a build for my friend, and building an amd build sounds a bit fun, as they get cheaper mobos with better stuff on them for the price and of course the ability to attempt overclocking has always been a plus for AMD.

well on my end that is, not sure about nekuls



having the i5 3570k right now i dont think i will upgrade not for a while certainly will skip haswell and broadwell
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July 24, 2012 12:00:24 AM

From what I understand, Intel is looking to get power consumption down as highest priority They started with Ivy bridge, of course they cost more and to the savvy consumer who does their homework, turns out you'd be running your computer for at least a year to break even on your electric bill for the up front cost you paid on the Ivy over Sandy.

Really too soon to tell, but I'm not expecting great leaps with Haswell and Broadwell in terms of performance.
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July 24, 2012 2:54:57 AM

nekulturny said:
7970>GTX 670 all day long. Other than that, you're build is a locked multiplier CPU :pt1cable: 

ah you have a 7870 in your build . .(?) and still . .ahem.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-radeon-hd-7870-twinfr...
don't need an unlocked multi; any 3.1 Ghz=or> quad will handle BF3.

and truth be told, your build is a better option, just posted for fun.
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July 24, 2012 3:15:20 AM

True, but a locked multiplier is not what the OP asked for lol.

7970 Gigahertz edition, of course you can have your own via overclocking. Thats the real bummer that continues to haunt Nvidia, their limited overclocking potential. 7870 smokes a GTX 580 again because of the overclocking potential the 580 lacks. Crossfire 7970s wave bye bye to a GTX 590.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-...

And away she goes!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6025/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-e...
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July 24, 2012 3:26:41 AM

nekulturny said:
True, but a locked multiplier is not what the OP asked for lol.

7970 Gigahertz edition, of course you can have your own via overclocking. Thats the real bummer that continues to haunt Nvidia, their limited overclocking potential. 7870 smokes a GTX 580 again because of the overclocking potential the 580 lacks. Crossfire 7970s wave bye bye to a GTX 590.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-...

And away she goes!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6025/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-e...

the tom's article i understand:

but why link the metro 20033 to anand? which has the BF3 going . .


but to the cpu, though i am not looking to qualify my post because, well it was for a laugh; i was going to use a celeron :) 

and stricly as a discussion: though realistically a 2400 will perform pretty decently in real word gaming. the unlocked multis (K edtions), are not really necessary for good gaming. but they do get thrown around a lot like its the only thing to game on . . . like quad cores :lol: 
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July 24, 2012 3:33:37 AM

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the tom's article i understand:


Point conceded.

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and stricly as a discussion: though realistically a 2400 will perform pretty decently in real word gaming. the unlocked multis (K edtions), are not really necessary for good gaming.


Lol, doesn't matter, if its what the OPs wants, I'm not one to argue. Overclocking is fun to do, its part of the fun in building your own machine.

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but they do get thrown around a lot like its the only thing to game on . . . like quad cores :lol: 


Ahh but you err here, because you have an i3 with a 550 TI. You really don't need a more powerful CPU than that to keep up with it. However, there are games that do utilize quads, and the i3 will indeed bottleneck when you start getting into the higher resolutions and higher eye candy. It seems to be when you go in caverns where things go to hell on Skyrim. Metro 2033 goes to hell when you get into having those visions of aliens (if you're familiar with the game).

You can check out that Tom's article you love so much, theres a clear difference between the i3-2100s and the i5-2400s, whats the difference? Same clock speed, same architecture, the i3-2100 is half the CPU the 2400 is in terms of cores.

Skyrim like Metro 2033 is one of those games I've found that is very inconsistent, I'd say that Tom's article since it doesn't really explain what they were doing in game when they benched it doesn't do it justice. Skyrim is a console port, as such some of the things that should be done by the GPU are burdened upon the CPU. Depending on what you're doing in game, you can find things get quite lousy with a dual core CPU.
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July 24, 2012 3:39:06 AM

Anonymous said:
ha!
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cQNe
:lol: 



Well, I've decided to go with Looniam's build but with a few modifications. I am picking up an i5 3570k from microcenter for $190 and an OCZ Fatality 750W PSU for $75 (also at microcenter). In addition I went with the Antec 300 case ($47) and a WD Caviar Blue 500 GB for $60.

I'll be putting this build together in the next few weeks and I'll let y'all know how it goes. Thanks so much for the help!
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July 24, 2012 3:39:56 AM

Best answer selected by jstanley11.
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July 24, 2012 3:49:00 AM

You're welcome, good luck.
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July 24, 2012 3:52:35 AM

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Lol, doesn't matter, if its what the OPs wants, I'm not one to argue. Overclocking is fun to do, its part of the fun in building your own machine.


ahhhh. now i see their post related to that. was doing the shopping then and missed it. since then took a nap and now woke up because it is still 85 degrees in my house . . :p 

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Ahh but you err here, because you have an i3 with a 550 TI. You really don't need a more powerful CPU than that to keep up with it. However, there are games that do utilize quads, and the i3 will indeed bottleneck when you start getting into the higher resolutions and higher eye candy.

You can check out that Tom's article you love so much, theres a clear difference between the i3-2100s and the i5-2400s, whats the difference? Same clock speed, same architecture, the i3-2100 is half the CPU the 2400 is in terms of cores.

Skyrim like Metro 2033 is one of those games I've found that is very inconsistent, I'd say that Tom's article since it doesn't really explain what they were doing in game when they benched it doesn't do it justice. Skyrim is a console port, as such some of the things that should be done by the GPU are burdened upon the CPU. Depending on what you're doing in game, you can find things get quite lousy with a dual core CPU.


:lol:  just another jab.
now first of all i will not disagree that a quad core is better and especially in the games mentioned above.
now in playing the games i have; crysis 2 (had BF3 single player for a minute) BFBC2, rage, the darkeness and far cry 2, my 550ti never pushes my i3 above 40% while playing except with all the eye candy turned on in far cry 2 then it tops out @ 60%. i am really itching to get a 570 or 7870 and see what happens. but little things like food, rent, laundry and gas have to come first dammit!
honestly i think the i3 gets a bad rap not because of it limited capabilities in certain circumstances but because it gets looked down upon by people who think they are an "enthusiasts" simply because they bought a $220+ cpu and not because of their technical skills. but thats just my thoughts.

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July 24, 2012 3:57:27 AM

jstanley11 said:
Well, I've decided to go with Looniam's build but with a few modifications. I am picking up an i5 3570k from microcenter for $190 and an OCZ Fatality 750W PSU for $75 (also at microcenter). In addition I went with the Antec 300 case ($47) and a WD Caviar Blue 500 GB for $60.

I'll be putting this build together in the next few weeks and I'll let y'all know how it goes. Thanks so much for the help!


ah thanks but i think nekulturny had a great build also. and you are aware that you need a Z77 or Z75 motherboard to overclock a "K" series cpu?
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July 24, 2012 4:03:09 AM

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ahhhh. now i see their post related to that. was doing the shopping then and missed it. since then took a nap and now woke up because it is still 85 degrees in my house . .


Ouch lol

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honestly i think the i3 gets a bad rap not because of it limited capabilities in certain circumstances but because it gets looked down upon by people who think they are an "enthusiasts" simply because they bought a $220+ cpu and not because of their technical skills. but thats just my thoughts.


Now you know how I feel in a world of Intel Elitists! You're reasonable enough to know as well as I do that the Phenom II and i3 are more or less equals, and yet thanks to that article with one off-guard comment from self-appointed Guru who shall remain nameless screw it, Don Woligroski... people will start huge nerdy flame wars on these forums over 1 or 2 FPS that Phenom IIs are good for nothing more than paperweights. Oh but by the way, they're amazed at how "Good" the Pentium G620 is even though it clearly gets well over 10 FPS less than both the i3 and Phenom II typically. Yes yes, now I know the G620 is impressive for what it is, but theres no way in hell I'm sticking that in a computer and calling it a "gamer". :lol: 

Completely set aside the fact that like you, I can play Crysis 2 at 60FPS just fine, any Call of Duty game in the series over 70FPS, Medal of Honor 2010 (same game engine as BF3 I believe), great graphics, crappy gameplay btw, much the same as BF3 campaign, which I did play. Metro 2033 is a mess no matter what system its played on, did that one too, although it the Librarians freaked me out too much to finish.. WoW and Skyrim, thats Max's deal, I never found them particularly interesting, but likewise perfectly playable.
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July 24, 2012 4:16:54 AM

I knew there was a reason I recommended an Xbox... ;-)
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July 24, 2012 4:19:43 AM

iknowhowtofixit said:
I knew there was a reason I recommended an Xbox... ;-)

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July 24, 2012 4:22:03 AM

^^^ yessss yes yes, a thousand times yes! and I am getting a 75 series Mobo
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July 24, 2012 4:25:43 AM

i am past due to get my "monthly warning" :lol: 
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July 24, 2012 4:29:38 AM

nekulturny said:
*stares at gauntlet that just made a loud 'clank' on the floor* :heink: 


There is no fight here. The battle has already been won. The OP is going to build a perfectly unbalanced PC, per usual, and everyone is going to support him for it, yay! Maybe I'm just growing tired of this forum again. Who knows...
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July 24, 2012 4:33:02 AM

I think you're on the wrong forum, that system will destroy any console on the market today, both in terms of raw power and how high quality of games it can play. A console can only dream about having the power to play at the kinds of resolutions a PC can.

You go ahead and keep your console. My stepbrother is on his 5th Xbox 360 because the red ring of death, the last console I ever had was a Super Nintendo, its 20 years old, and it still works. You go ahead and keep that Microsoft garbage.
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July 24, 2012 4:37:56 AM

iknowhowtofixit said:
There is no fight here. The battle has already been won. The OP is going to build a perfectly unbalanced PC, per usual, and everyone is going to support him for it, yay! Maybe I'm just growing tired of this forum again. Who knows...

yeah right sure . .like anyone will consider the validity of someone on a computer component forum suggesting an xbox.

one just doesn't know where to begin to point out all the flaws wrong with that logic . . .outdated hardware . .crappy gameplay . . . not cost effective . . .

yes you growing tired of THG and hear a calling to help people on yahoo answers.
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July 24, 2012 4:40:52 AM

nekulturny said:
I think you're on the wrong forum, that system will destroy any console on the market today, both in terms of raw power and how high quality of games it can play. A console can only dream about having the power to play at the kinds of resolutions a PC can.

You go ahead and keep your console. My stepbrother is on his 5th Xbox 360 because the red ring of death, the last console I ever had was a Super Nintendo, its 20 years old, and it still works. You go ahead and keep that Microsoft garbage.


This was never a debate about console vs PC. My console comment, from the beginning, was a poke at the OP's lack of elaboration as well as the inevitable flame war between AMD vs Intel and Radeon vs GeForce.
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July 24, 2012 4:43:45 AM

iknowhowtofixit said:
There is no fight here. The battle has already been won. The OP is going to build a perfectly unbalanced PC, per usual, and everyone is going to support him for it, yay! Maybe I'm just growing tired of this forum again. Who knows...



How is the PC I am building unbalanced at all? Gaming machines are supposed to have mid end CPUs and high end GPUs. BTW, I already have an Xbox. I play BF3 in TWL and have started playing more serious tournaments, that's why I need a high end machine to play it (my Dell XPS 15 just doesn't cut it LOL). So, STFU.
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July 24, 2012 4:47:36 AM

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How is the PC I am building unbalanced at all? .

Its not. "Unbalanced" would be a Pentium G620 with that video card. Or 3570K CPU with a GT 520 video card.
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July 24, 2012 4:49:18 AM

ok, i am done tossing a snack to the troll . . up for work in 5 hours . .that sucks but money is good :) 
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