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Upgrading my PC, one by one. Advices is needed.

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July 24, 2012 2:35:07 PM

I'm currently planning to upgrade my PC, one-by-one.
Here's my sequence in buying parts:
Case -> PSU -> GPU -> RAM -> Motherboard -> CPU -> CPU Cooler.

I'll be using my specs on my signature in this sequence until I change it.
Also, I cannot buy in Newegg since I live here in the Philippines.

Approximate Purchase Date: One-by-one. Maybe every 1-4 weeks. Depends on the price.
Budget Range: None. But looking for the best bang for the buck. No shippings.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Browsing the internet, Homeworks.
Are you buying a monitor: No.
Parts to Upgrade: Look at my sequence above.
Do you need to buy OS: No.
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub :) 
Location: Quezon City, Philippines
Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, Cooler Master Case.
Overclocking: Yes.
SLI or Crossfire: Definitely yes after buying these things.
Your Monitor Resolution: Currently at 1366x768. Will upgrade it to 1920x1080 after I bought these things.
Additional Comments: Case = Window. PSU = Modular. Mobo = USB 3.0 header. I'll be playing BF3, NFS: The Run, Diablo III, Batman: Arkham City, etc.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I'm upgrading to play the current latest games.

I've selected these as of the moment.
Case: atx: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer 3,900.00 PHP = 92.77 USD
PSU: psu: Seasonic (M12II) 620watts 80PLUS Bronze 4,200.00 PHP = 99.90 USD
Mobo: mb: lga1155 Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 6,800.00 PHP = 161.75 USD
CPU: cpu: Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked 11,580.00 PHP = 275.44 USD
CPU Cooler: cool CPU: Noctua (NH D14) 3,350.00 PHP = 79.68 USD
Video Card: vga: Sapphire HD 7850 2gb/256bit ddr5 10,990.00 PHP = 261.41 USD
RAM: ram: G.Skill Ares (Dual) 2x4gb ddr3 1600 CL9 (F3 1600CL9D 8GAB) 2,900.00 PHP = 68.97 USD

Total: 43,720.00 PHP = 1,039.79 USD

Yep. That a big budget need. There a taxes here in the Philippines. I can almost buy higher parts. :(  :sarcastic: 
Also, after I replace that part, I'm going to sell it.
Oh well, that's what I've currently selected. If you could prefer a more cheaper (Well, I really need a cheaper parts! :) ), but the same level of performance, please, advice them.
Thanks for the advices for those who will give. :) 

EDITS: (In my selected parts.)
1. Changed Palit GTX 670 Jetstream to Sapphire HD 7850. (7,009.00 PHP = 166.69 USD cheaper.)
2. Changed Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 2x4GB 1600 to G.Skill Ares 2x4GB 1600. (210.00 PHP = 4.99 USD cheaper.)
3. Changed my sequence from Case -> PSU -> Motherboard -> CPU -> CPU Cooler -> GPU -> RAM to the one above.
July 24, 2012 3:08:45 PM

You will have to buy motherboard, CPU and RAM all at once.
July 24, 2012 3:17:32 PM

Yep. I'll just leave it somewhere in the house. :) 
Until I buy those things, completely.
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July 24, 2012 5:03:49 PM

Changed my selected video card from Palit GTX 670 to Sapphire HD 7850.
July 24, 2012 5:23:06 PM

Nice HSF for Ivy Bridge, I think? Since Ivy Bridge has serious heat within 4.3-4.5 GHz.
Also, can 212 Evo handle the 4.3 OC with the ambient temp here? Ambient temp here in the Philippines is within 30-35C.

Nice RAM. Didn't saw that. Lol. :bounce: 
July 24, 2012 5:46:00 PM

gatgat23 said:
Nice HSF for Ivy Bridge, I think? Since Ivy Bridge has serious heat within 4.3-4.5 GHz.
Also, can 212 Evo handle the 4.3 OC with the ambient temp here? Ambient temp here in the Philippines is within 30-35C.

Nice RAM. Didn't saw that. Lol. :bounce: 


Yes, around 4.3, the temps start increasing significantly, due increase in voltage for a stable clock. With that ambient temp, you may be required to be a little lower than 4.3. It seems to me like you want to push the limit, so the Noctua will probably be better in that case.
July 24, 2012 5:58:37 PM

I think, I'll just stay with Noctua just to be sure.
Also, is Aerocool Shark fan a good replace for the D14?
Really don't like the color of the Noctua fans. :D 

Any thoughts about the other parts?
July 24, 2012 6:01:19 PM

No idea about the fan replace. You could just try it out first and see if the color bothers you that much, then buy the Aerocool if it does.

The other parts look good.
July 24, 2012 6:06:52 PM

Found out that the fans that came with the D14 has higher CFM than the Aerocool.
Oh well, guess I'll stick with the Noctua fans. :) 
July 24, 2012 6:07:43 PM

do you really need to overclock? if you do, just get an antec kuhler 620 rather than a massive air cooler. not to mention that thing weighs more than a kilo. 1.2 kilograms i think. that would be tiresome to clean... CPU cooler should be the least in your priority as well as the case.
July 24, 2012 6:17:44 PM

Isn't D14 has a big difference in temp with 620?
Since, in the reviews I've read, D14 is in par with H100. :sarcastic: 
July 24, 2012 6:20:37 PM

For a Silent PSU, geththe Cooler Master Silent Pro, you will be happy you did it.
July 24, 2012 6:26:09 PM

I think it's too expensive?
July 24, 2012 6:43:21 PM

There are better bang for buck PSUs than CM Silent Pro, like TX V2, XFX, Seasonic..
July 24, 2012 6:55:32 PM

For one 7850, he won't need more than the Antec 520W HCG series PSU. :) 
July 24, 2012 7:03:31 PM

I like your build and prefer high quality cooling myself.
July 24, 2012 7:23:07 PM

azeem40 said:
For one 7850, he won't need more than the Antec 520W HCG series PSU. :) 

I'm going to CF 7850 after buying those completely.
the great randini said:
I like your build and prefer high quality cooling myself.

Yeah. Since the ambient temp here is hot. Around 30-35C.
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I suggest a Seasonic M12II 620w. Its worth the extra dough. Looks like a good build.

Thanks for the suggestion. It can handle 2 7850's, right? Also, the other parts. :) 
July 24, 2012 7:23:28 PM

gatgat23 said:
Yep. I'll just leave it somewhere in the house. :) 
Until I buy those things, completely.


Typically, I would recommend against this. If you buy a motherboard, and it's DOA, you may not know for 2 months, meanwhile your Seller's replacement period is likely to be over (so you can't return it or get them to replace) and you will be forced to accept whatever refurb the manufacturer decides to give you.

You are better off putting the cash you would have spent away in a sealed envelope until you've saved the amount you need for CPU+RAM+MOBO

Alternatively, you could leave the CPU+RAM+MOBO until last, you may find you don't even need them once you get a new GPU :) 
July 24, 2012 7:27:36 PM

djscribbles said:
Typically, I would recommend against this. If you buy a motherboard, and it's DOA, you may not know for 2 months, meanwhile your Seller's replacement period is likely to be over (so you can't return it or get them to replace) and you will be forced to accept whatever refurb the manufacturer decides to give you.

You are better off putting the cash you would have spent away in a sealed envelope until you've saved the amount you need for CPU+RAM+MOBO

Alternatively, you could leave the CPU+RAM+MOBO until last, you may find you don't even need them once you get a new GPU :) 

Now, that's what I'm really thinking about.
Because, I don't know if the GPU would work in my current specs on my sig.
So, my question is: Will 7850 work in my current Mobo+CPU+RAM on my sig? :) 
July 24, 2012 8:14:44 PM

gatgat23 said:
Now, that's what I'm really thinking about.
Because, I don't know if the GPU would work in my current specs on my sig.
So, my question is: Will 7850 work in my current Mobo+CPU+RAM on my sig? :) 



It's got a PCIE2 16x slot, which is essentially bottleneck free and compatible. PCIE3 has only very recently been introduced and it's essentially usesless as PCIE bandwidth is not a bottleneck until you get into major SLI situations.

And actually (hadn't looked at your actual hardware until now), that mobo will support AM3+ CPUs (May require a bios flash first, which you should do with caution as it can brick your mobo if failed or power is lost), which will let you put a pretty hefty AMD CPU in (A phenom2 is plenty for a gaming rig in most all cases). So unless you are really set on going to intel, you really don't need a mobo.

edit: A closer look at your current rig, I would Upgrade Case->PSU->GPU->(Add if you can)RAM (8Gig is best since your GPU is going to reserve 2G)->CPU->Mobo if you want.

Make sure you get a quality PSU, you will only need about 500-550W if you get a quality PSU like Seasonic/Corsair/Roswill/Antec (trying to name many brands since you are in Thailand you may have limited selection, I favor Seasonic and Corsair typically). For Crossfire, I would look for a 700W PSU.
July 24, 2012 8:26:24 PM

Yeah, it has PCIe slot.

Yep. Already updated BIOS last June.
I'm really going to Intel.
I don't know why, but I'm REALLY going to Intel. Lol. :D 

So, will 7850 not bottleneck with AMD Athlon II X2 250 + 1GB PQI DDR3-1333? :D 

EDIT: I'll buy another 7850 after buying these things completely.
I've Seasonic M12II 620w selected as of now.
Correction though, I live in Philippines. ;) 
July 24, 2012 9:24:58 PM

Just found out that it actually works.
Changed my sequence to:
Case + Fans -> PSU -> GPU -> RAM -> Mobo -> CPU -> CPU Cooler.

Edited the first post.
July 25, 2012 8:40:03 AM

Question to all:
Is 620w enough for 2 7850's CF?

When I used an outervision/PSU calculator, minimum wattage is around 428w. And recommended is around 478w.
Just making it sure, because I might even OC CPU. Even GPU if it can really boost performance. :) 
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