AMD Phenom II x4 965 (AM3) or Athlon II X4 750K (FM2)

[luquiboyn]

I'm looking for a new CPU. I decided to go for an AMD because it is cheaper here in Spain.

I saw the 965 and all the reviews were OK. But I tried to find some for the 750K but it was impossible. There are lots of shops that sell this product, but there isn't any page talking about it. EVEN IN AMD WEBSITE IT DOESN'T EXIST!!!

So I'm very confused about this model, because looking at the specs in the shops I think it is very good, but not finding any info makes me distrust about it. Is there anyone that can help me??

 

[MajinCry]

AMD is cheaper everywhere

The 965 is good. Overclocked @ 4.0 GHz, it is as good as an i5 2500k at stock.

Found a benchmark on anandtech comparing an older athlon II. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=188

I'd say they are neck and neck, with the 965 BE pulling through a tad in certain programs.

I say take what you fancy. I'd go for the 750K, as it would be good for AMD to get some CPUs sold that are in production. Also, the 750K has a 100W TDP, so your cooler won't have to work as hard/Will allow for more OC-ing headroom.

 

[luquiboyn]

The 750K achieves 4 GHz in turbo mode, and I think it has unlocked multiplier, so it seems better option. But I'm afraid it could have some drawback looking at its price.

 

[MajinCry]

How so? Those sandybridge celeron/pentium things-that-I-can't-remember-the-name-of are £50. They do fine, as far as dual-cores go.

Get the 750k. It's actually got an attractive price attached to it.

 

[emilvojnic]

AMD Phenom II x4 965 got L3 cache, Athlon II X4 750K does't. That's sometimes makes a big difference.

 

[m32]

I would get the 750K. It is known of, but no one knows where to go to own one. What are you planning to do with your new CPU? emilvojnic, just made the comment about the L3 cache. The 965 might be better at gaming and etc. if you plan on going that route.

 

[luquiboyn]

I will use it for gaming, of course. I want to change my old E5200 to something newer. so wich one you think is better??

 

[noob2222]

for gaming, the 965. Games prefer l3 cache.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/676?vs=102

The 750k isn't the athlon core, its the A 5xxx APU core. unfortumately there are only 3 games on anandtech, keep in mind the 5600k is 3.6 ghz and the 750k is 3.4ghz.

get the 965.

The 750k is on amd's website, just a strange spot. http://shop.amd.com/uk/All/ModelsPerLine/Desktop/Processor?Line=athlon%2Fathlonx4&Model=athlon%2Fathlonx4%2F750k

 

[luquiboyn]

ok. thanks you all!
I'll go for the 965 because I can get a better mobo for the same price too.
I saw the fx-4100 nearly priced but looking at reviews I think 965 is better, or am I wrong?

 

[noob2222]

the 965 has 4 full cores, the 4100 is a dual module cpu that has 4 pseudo-cores (80% efficient) so ya, the 965 is better.

just a side note, try to make sure the motherboard is am3+, AMD's next cpus may work on it still, but thats not till 2014 so things could change.

 

[luquiboyn]

yes, it's am3+

 

[m32]

What country are you in? You can save some money if you want to gamble on an refurbished MB.

 

[payturr]

DON'T GET THE 750K. NOT YET.
Yes, it's better than the 965. But think about this guys - this CPU doesn't officially like, exist. Is there motherboard support for it anywhere?

 

[noob2222]

DON'T GET THE 750K. NOT YET.
Yes, it's better than the 965. But think about this guys - this CPU doesn't officially like, exist. Is there motherboard support for it anywhere?

its not faster than the 965 for games, its between the a8 5600k and the a8 5500 in terms of clock speed. Its an APU with a bad gpu. Its a fx-4300 without L3 cache.

Is L3 cache important? 100% for games yes. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/700?vs=675
same clock speed, you can see its performance is close to identical most of the time, but when you get to the game benches ... ya, you need L3 cache.

as for motherboard support, all fm2 boards will work.

http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4406

 

[luquiboyn]

What country are you in? You can save some money if you want to gamble on an refurbished MB.

I´m in Spain, but in the site I'm gonna buy all the hardware (www.pccomponentes.com) there isn't any refurbished one

 

[BuddiLuva]

Don't buy refurbished components. There's a reason it didn't work the first time.

 

[luquiboyn]

Don't buy refurbished components. There's a reason it didn't work the first time.

it depends on where do you buy it... If you get warranty and you save money, why not?

 

[noob2222]

Don't buy refurbished components. There's a reason it didn't work the first time.

refurbished doesn't mean broken. I have a "refurbished" AV reciever that I have been using for 8+ years, refurbished monitor thats been runnig for 5+, refurbished printer 3+, ect.

some refurbished Items are customer returns where the customer had no clue how to use it, returned it to the store, the store sent it off with the customer's complaint, nothing wrong with it all, but now its "refurbished" because it was used by a moron.