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Hello, i was wondering if anyone could help me with this build, it is my first gaming pc build and im pretty hard into games but im tired of dealing with pre-configed systems! any help, comments, concerns or alternative builds are welcome!
thanks- John


Here are the parts
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 (i5 3570k ivy bridge)

Card/GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130797 (EVGA superclocked GTX 680)

Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009 (corsair carbide series 500r)

PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171053 (cooler master GX series/750w)

MB- http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2332609&Sku=M452-8420&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=10&body=REVIEWS#CustomerReviewsBlock (MSI z77A-G45)

HDD- http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=744345&csid=_61 (2TB Sata)

DVD R/W- http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4974035&CatId=1624 (doesnt matter)

RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226282 (16GB Mushkin enhanced redline/1600)



Other notes: budgeted around $1500, if you submit your own build feel free to throw in accessories (Eg: keyboards)
 
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What is the native resolution of your monitor? The only reason I ask, is you could save a couple bucks on the GPU if maximum scaling isn't really an issue, and blow that same saved money on a more meaningful upgrade 1.5-2 years down the line. It's a beast for 1500 though. I would recommend splurging a little on a Seasonic PSU as well. Overall there is nothing wrong with it. I do think the 680 is a bit much for most realistic needs and you could probably shave 200-250 dollars there and get transparent performance.

My changes would only spare you a couple hundred bucks. I wouldn't recommend an SSD to be honest as one poster suggested, unless you are doing intensive video editing tasks, at which point the size of the SSD will significantly inflate your build cost. It's a good looking build at 1500 dollars.
 
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then why didnt you disagree with the i7 then, hyperthreading has no realtime use in gaming o_O
 
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At the price, the cpu is still a wise purchase, and will long outlive whatever GPU he purchases even if it is a 680. It will probably outlive the socket format and never be a bottleneck in his system.

What performance increase will he see with an SSD? Less space, more money, and from a gaming perspective really provides him miniscule to naught performance in comparison to what he pays for significantly less disk space. He described himself as a hardcore gamer, I did throw the caveat out there regarding video editing though. It wasn't an attack on you, I was just disagreeing with you as I did not see the benefit for a gamer, and at 1500 he's really tipping what I consider a positive performance/price build, which is when you need to take a step back. I still think it's a decent build, but if he wanted an SSD, he is throwing money away at that point and his build is not really being cost-performance effective. Maybe 2 years from now, the money he saves by being a bit more conservative on his GPU can allow him a transparent upgrade into a big SSD when there isn't such a premium on the size, and some of the controller issues get ironed out.
 
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of course hes not going to buy an ssd alone, an ssd for larger programs and a hdd as a storing device for everything else. a generally fast performer all around.
 
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How? An SSD is only useful for it's sequential read/write speeds. Games don't task throughput rates of traditional cylinder/platter based drives. If he uses the SSD as his system drive, then maybe he sees a couple seconds worth of boot time improvement? Unless he does a bunch of video and/or audio editing with massive lossless files and a huge workload of transcoding, then this is a waste of money. If you do find yourself in this particular niche, now an SSD looks good, as a traditional HDD will get abused by this use, require constant defragmenting which is also somewhat abusive, and really deteriorate the life of the drive. But, he hasn't responded, so we don't know if this is an issue for him. I don't understand why you would recommend he tack an extra 150-200 bucks on his build for the sake of a couple seconds of boot time. An SSD is nice for particular applications, but I don't see how it add's anything to his gamer based build...especially as the system drive of all things.
 
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Thanks for the guides!, and yeah i was wondering about a SSD just for my OS, i assumed that the quicker recall though for my OS wouldn't benefit my gaming experience quite as having an extra hundred bucks. However, this is the first thing im investing in if my budget allows.
Thanks,
-John
 
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i would only recommend a ~120gb ssd, which can be found for less than 100$ several times. the i7 on its own serves no purpose in his build, which i suggested for him to switch to an i5 and get a cpu cooler, so he can actually make use of the K that is an unlocked cpu core. the ssd will cut boot time by a few seconds, but it will also cut down game loading times. This becomes extremely relevant in games that are notoriously either large in size, or have a lot of portals that require loading.(which can be prevalent in MMORPGS) of course it does add to the budget, but part of it is paid off for the change from i7 to an i5.
 
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Exactly, it's an upgrade, but nonessential to the intended use of your build. It's a smart build, though I think you are a bit aggressive with your GPU. If that's your budget though and you are intent on maxing it out, pull the trigger. At 1500 it looks pretty attractive.
 
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will the i5 3570k bottleneck my 680..? ive heard terrible terrible rumors about this happening to certain CPUs and high end graphics cards
 
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Do you already have RAM and an OS?




Not at all.
 
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well yes and no.. i need to purchase a new copy of windows for the 64 bit version.. and ram its out dated im lookin for 16GB of ram but i have a 4 slots of ram so i thought i should get 2, 2 packs of 4GB RAM and utilize all channels on my MB however i cant find DDR3 ram for 4 GB maybe its because its late and i haven't had coffee though..
 
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Ill look into the 64 GB SSD but i think if i cut down enough around the edges with my build i can splurge for a 120GB drive, and for the record SSD's are gunna fit in the 2.5" drive bays right..?
 
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Thats the neat thing about my case it has sync points for 2.5" drives on any of the (i believe 4) 3.5" bays!
 
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+1 on get a 120GB SSD... they dont cost the earth and they do make any load times ALOT faster. Shove your OS and your games on it and you get nice fast boot time followed by near instant level loading times in your games. If your spending $1500 there really is no reason not to get one, I suspect the people saying they are not worth it don't actually have one as trust me once you experience super fast load times you will never want to go back.

Personally I would get an i5 not an i7 as well... there is not any real benefit in the i7 gaming.

I wouldnt get the coolermaster PSU either they make good cases not good PSU's.

Infact with $1500 I would do this

COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALX 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767

OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227791

GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128546

G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231544

EVGA Superclocked, Signature 2 02G-P4-2687-KR GeForce GTX 680
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130797

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021

That weighs in at $1494.91 or $1454.91 after mail in rebates.

If you want windows 7 that will add an extra 100


*EDIT* just read your above post as you have a case thats -$200 from the build i made here so total $1254.91
 
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I like the rig you put together here, and as for the case yeah id probably nix that and throw in my 16 GB of RAM. I appreciate you leaving in my Card of choice for the build to. since you took the imitative of constructing a whole rig ill probably give you the "best answer" tag. not sure if it helps any with your points on the sites or anything but i hope it helps somewhat.
 
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Wondering why everyone keeps mentioning i7 but his initial link is to an i5?
Definitely get an SSD, you will notice the difference, not only boot times but day to day use just using windows you will see. I would prob ditch the 680 in favour of a 670 just because you save $100 and won't miss any of the performance. My last point is personal preference but have you considered modular power supplies? You end up with a way cleaner looking case and much easier time trying to cable tie *** together, plus sometimes when your trying to remove 1 thing and can't get at the cables properly, helps to have an option of just pulling it out of the power supply instead.
 
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Message edited by johnivey on 07-25-2012 at 05:03:42 AM


thats why
 
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hmm.. i plan to overclock so would a 670 be a better deal in the end?
 
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