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July 25, 2012 4:09:29 PM

Hey guys, so this is my 1st time building a machine and I've reviewed these parts but I'm still having trouble finding a few good parts.

I'll be buying most of these parts from newegg.com (No tax!)

Purchase date: Sometime in October however I'm thinking about waiting til Black Friday.

I'll be using this machine for gaming and some internet browsing, homework, and something else that I forgot about.

I live in the US, in NY.

I won't be overclocking the day I get the parts however I will be overclocking in the future when I think it's time to do so.

I will be using SLI with a 2nd graphics card but, only when I think it's needed.

These are the parts I have in mind:

Case- Antec nine hundred - $100

Motherboard – ASrock x79 Extreme4 - $225

CPU – Intel I7 3820 - $300

CPU Cooling – Cooler Master 212 EVO - $30

RAM – G. Skill Ripjaws 8gb - $45

GPU – Nvidia GTX680 - $500

HDD – Raptor HDD SATA - $38 - Ebay or some other place to get a cheap HDD.

DVD – ASUS 24x DVD-rw - $20

PSU – Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 750 - $110

Thermal Paste – Arctic Silver 5 - $10

I still have to shop around for a keyboard and mouse lol

The main concerns I have is :

1. Is my case big enough to hold my GPU.

Any advice and/or recommendations are appreciated. :) 

I have not seen a reason to spend a lot on a HDD as I don't think I'll be using a lot of disk space.

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July 25, 2012 6:31:32 PM

Budget?
July 25, 2012 6:42:35 PM

Get these:

Asrock z77 Extreme4 motherboard
i5 3750k cpu
evo heatsink is great
get 9-9-9-1600 RAM, I prefer GSkill ripjaw
solid case
solid gpu
get a 120gb ssd + hdd for storage
PSU is good
Paste is good
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July 25, 2012 6:43:58 PM

Thanks for the replies. My budget is about $1500, I might be able to go a little higher. I'd go with what DarkOutlaw suggested however, I want to future proof if I can.
July 25, 2012 6:44:41 PM

Paste is not needed since the EVO comes with good paste already.
July 25, 2012 6:46:01 PM

if you want a bigger case for 20$ get your self a Eleven hundred
July 25, 2012 6:50:13 PM

You are as future proofed as you can be my friend.

If you are refferring to the i7 vs i5, i5 has dominated and will continue to dominate the i7 in terms of overclocking, gaming, and general purpose tasks.
July 25, 2012 6:51:18 PM

azeem40 said:
Paste is not needed since the EVO comes with good paste already.


They have done a few articles about this, and the arctic silver would be worth the extra $10 if you can afford it. It will not be dramatic but will help 1c-5c I believe they found.
July 25, 2012 6:56:26 PM

Darkoutlaw are you referring to arctic 7?

You seem so sure that I5 is better than I7. I guess I don't know how or why. When I say future proof I mean about 10 years.
July 25, 2012 6:57:19 PM

Vigoram said:
Darkoutlaw are you referring to arctic 7?


Eh? Arctic Silver thermal paste?
July 25, 2012 6:59:25 PM

Yeah, Arctic Silver 7. Now the reason I put in Arctic Silver 5 is because I read some reviews on Arctic 7 and some people were saying that it is a great adhesive and if I were to ever want to replace the CPU or heatsink then there's a chance that something will break when I try to separate them due to the awesome adhesive.
July 25, 2012 7:03:01 PM

No, it is not better. I would not spend $10 for just 3C cooler temps and 200 hrs of curing.
July 25, 2012 7:10:22 PM

I don't know how to cure the paste or anything but, I'd spend the $10 for the extra cooling.
July 25, 2012 7:12:17 PM

azeem40 said:
No, it is not better. I would not spend $10 for just 3C cooler temps and 200 hrs of curing.


Just....whatever your not worth my time...


@OP Whao whao whao scratch that. Arctic Silver 7 is an adhesive paste, Arctic Silver 5 is a thermal paste. I would definately go with 5 ;) 
July 25, 2012 7:18:13 PM

Ok, I'll stick with 5 then, thanks.
July 25, 2012 7:46:22 PM

The system you made up is pretty good.Its powerfull futerproof and pretty much complete.There are some things i'd like to change in it though.

The case you chose is more than good enough but unless you're getting it at a great price the Antec Eleven Hundred is the better choice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The power supply you listed is more than powerfull enough for a single graphics card but you should buy a better one if you want to be able to add a second card in the future.
This power supply below will provide more than enough power for two GTX 680's.It will even be enough for your whole system (with 2 GTX 680's) overclocked.

You should also replace the RAM you chose with another kit.1333 MHz ram is far too slow for such a fast system.The minimum i'd go with is a good 1600MHz kit like this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or if you really want the best performance you can get go with a high speed memory kit like this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And i forgot to mention one thing.Youre buying a high-end PC!!!Why are you going to buy a 38$ HDD???
You should buy a high-quality NEW HDD!Like those two below.The first one has more storage space while the second one is faster and more reliable.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As a fonal note here if your money isnt enough for a high quality Hard Drive just downgrade your graphics card!A GTX 670 is plenty.

Or could get a HD 7970 with an Accelero cooler and overclock it.
This is going to be faster than a GTX 680 its also going to run cooler and quieter.The only con is that it will consume more power under load.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
In my opinion at least those two are superior to a GTX 680.
July 25, 2012 7:54:07 PM

Darkoutlaw by switching the system from LGA 2011 to LGA 1155 you're losing future proofness which is a huge factor in my opinion.Saving so much money in such a high end build is pretty pointless in my opinion.

now back to the topic.
If you want an SSD and you cant afford it just switch to this card right here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Its more powerfull than a GTX 680 and also buy a fast cheap ssd like this one below
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 25, 2012 7:56:55 PM

Nice, thanks Kamen! For the HDD it's not the matter of being able to afford one, it's more like; do I really need a lot of space?
yes, the case is the same price as the one you suggested.
July 25, 2012 7:57:05 PM

Kamen_BG said:
Darkoutlaw by switching the system from LGA 2011 to LGA 1155 you're losing future proofness which is a huge factor in my opinion.Saving so much money in such a high end build is pretty pointless in my opinion.

The Next socket type is Completely Different from 2011 and 1155

soo your theory is invalid
July 25, 2012 8:15:28 PM

If price isnt an issue, you should go with a 256gb ssd and 2 x 1tb hdd. You would put the hdd into a RAID-1 for redundancy. This way if/when a drive fails you will not loose your data. Its always good to have a little extra, then not enough, especially if you can afford it. The price difference between hard drive sizes isnt really HUGE like a CPU or graphics card.

@Shockattackr right on the money. 2011 is only worth getting if you want the i7 6 core processor, which right now is not worth getting. When the next round in intel's tick - tock development hits the shelves all this stuff we are talking about will be 'out dated' but that is the natural life cycle of the computer. Sandy Bridge was a Tick, this is the biggest preformence boost, Ivy Bridge is the tock, minimal performance boost. The next 'Tick' should have a new socket type, and there is no way of future proofing against this. Although I am sure the 3570K chip will be able to hold its own against it.
July 25, 2012 8:28:30 PM

No actually Haswell will come not be compatable with either LGA 1155 or LGA 2011 but Ivy Bridge-E which is the succesor to Sandy Bridge-E is going to be compatable with LGA 2011.And yes it really might not be worth the extra money just for the upgrade path.But in my opinion a high end PC should be as upgradable as possible so buying a buying a LGA 2011 based system isnt a bad decision.
July 25, 2012 8:32:23 PM

And soon after Haswell , comes Broadwell... which will still screw up the sockets. to be safe and not just start jumping on future proof bandwagons, stick with the i5 3570k
July 25, 2012 8:42:02 PM

Kamen_BG said:
No actually Haswell will come not be compatable with either LGA 1155 or LGA 2011 but Ivy Bridge-E which is the succesor to Sandy Bridge-E is going to be compatable with LGA 2011.And yes it really might not be worth the extra money just for the upgrade path.But in my opinion a high end PC should be as upgradable as possible so buying a buying a LGA 2011 based system isnt a bad decision.

He's only going to use it for gaming, so he won't need an upgrade soon anyway. Once the time comes when he will need one... Ivy Bridge-E will be just as obsolete as Ivy Bridge. Don't expect LGA 2011 to last forever.
July 25, 2012 8:42:48 PM

Shockattackr said:
And soon after Haswell , comes Broadwell... which will still screw up the sockets. to be safe and not just start jumping on future proof bandwagons, stick with the i5 3570k

AFAIK Broadwell will stick with the LGA 1150 socket, just like Ivy Bridge stuck with the LGA 1155 socket. It's just a die shrink, not a big redesign.
July 25, 2012 8:43:17 PM

I'm upgrading my ram to G.skill ripjaws DDR3 8gb 1600.

I don't see the PSU you suggested Kamen. I will want to add another GTX680 down the road.

Will the Cooler Master EVO 212 be enough to keep the CPU cool even if I overclock or would the Zalman be the better choice?
July 25, 2012 8:55:04 PM

You should be able to overclock to 4.5 easily with the hyper 212 evo. If you want to go a bit bigger, you could go with the Noctua DH-14. It is another great cooler, and will give you an extra few degrees off.

Other than this, you would need to invest in a custom water loop, which will cost about $200-$400, and I really feel you do not need anything like this. Even extreme over clockers (5.0+ghz) use 4.5 ghz for 24/7 usage.
July 25, 2012 8:56:28 PM

arctic mx-4 is better than silver 5 and it doesnt need curing. comes with the hyper 212 evo
July 25, 2012 8:56:43 PM

i am going with somthing similar
i7 3770k
z77 sabertooth
8gb vengance 1600
gtx 680
gold series corsair 850 watt psu
vertex 4
seagate barracuda
July 25, 2012 9:00:42 PM

your system looks very good i was going with the 3820 but for some reason the 3770k is slightly better i dont know why but your system shoudnt give you any problems good luck with it
July 25, 2012 9:03:52 PM

the 3770k is faster than the 3820 because it uses a slightly newer architecture (same but with improvements)
July 25, 2012 9:22:36 PM

Is there any way to tell if future CPU's will utilize the 1155 socket?
July 25, 2012 9:25:13 PM

1155 will end after ivy bridge. haswell will be using 1150 socket
July 25, 2012 9:28:01 PM

If that's the case then it might be a good idea to get a different motherboard that supports both 1150 and 1155 just in case. That also means getting a different CPU for now.Then again, would the 2011 socket be phased out quickly? If not then my current build would suffice for awhile.
July 25, 2012 9:49:30 PM

1155 and 1150 will not be compatable which each other. this isnt amd. 1150 chips will never work in 1155 boards

2011 will probably be updated next year when haswell-e comes out or ivy bridge-e
July 25, 2012 9:56:07 PM

Thanks for the response. I'm going with the Corsair Enthusiast TX750 for the PSU for when I decide to add another GPU.

Now is it a good idea to wait for Black Friday/ Cyber Monday to see if there will be any deals on the parts listed?
July 26, 2012 2:48:58 AM

If you really wanna wait five months it couldnt hurt...guess it all depends on when you want to build your computer.
July 26, 2012 2:55:32 AM

id suggest getting a xfx xxx 750w psu instead. made by the same company and it is more efficent and modular
July 26, 2012 3:06:41 AM

Your going to order in about 3-4 months and your choosing your parts now....?
July 26, 2012 3:19:38 AM

Do you think it'll be worth waiting? I won't have enough funds til mid October.
July 26, 2012 3:22:55 AM

buy things that are on sale
July 26, 2012 3:28:45 AM

You should have posted this a week before you buy the components
July 26, 2012 3:33:26 AM

guerrero said:
You should have posted this a week before you buy the components


pretty much....
July 26, 2012 3:34:18 AM

Yeah, I could have. But unless some better parts go on sale for the same price; this is what I'll be going with.
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