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July 25, 2012 10:16:36 PM

I'm a 1st time builder and have been reading this forum for awhile now and like the advise given by the other readers. I would like your opinion on the hardware I've chosen for my 1st build please feel free to recomend alternatives to my choices. Thanks For Your Help In Advance.

Case ATX Full Tower Dragon Rider
Motherboard ASUS Maximus V FORMULA
Processor Core i7-3770K
Memory DDR3 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair
Graphic Gards nVidia GeForce 680
Power Supply Kingwin 1,000 watts
Hard Drive Western Digita VelociRaptor 10,000RPM 1 TB
Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 240G Kingston
DVD Burner ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
Internal Blu-ray Burner Lite-On iHBS212-08
Sound Card ASUS Xonar Essence STX
July 25, 2012 10:19:14 PM

Seems over the top. What is the purpose of the build and your budget?
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July 25, 2012 10:25:03 PM

l0v3rboi said:
Seems over the top. What is the purpose of the build and your budget?


I agree, and if it's gaming - lose the Velociraptor HD and the 1KW PSU. Those two things are not needed. Go with a green drive and an 800W PSU instead. And also lose the 32GB of RAM - you'll never use it and Windows 7 Home Premium has a 16GB cap.
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July 25, 2012 10:51:18 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 1 to 2 months
Budget Range: 2,000 - 3,000
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, work, surfing the internet, watching movies, music)
Are you buying a monitor: No
Do you need to buy OS: Yes Windows 7 Pro 64
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com
Overclocking: Yes
SLI or Crossfire: Yes at a later time
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My old machine bought the farm and I wan't something that going to be versatile.

Hopes this helps
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July 25, 2012 11:34:17 PM

Can you please be more specific about "work" i.e. programming, video editing, etc...

For now here are some changes I would make:

I would get either one of these MoBo's: Gigabyte z77x-ud5h or Asrock z77 Extreme 6.

I would lose the Velociraptor and get a regular 7200 RPM HDD. Either a Seagate Barracuda 1 Tb or WD Caviar Blue.

I would get any one of these PSU's: Corsair AX750, XFX Pro 750W, or Seasonic x750. They would be enough for your requirements.

I would skip the sound card. The onboard Audio is good enough for me.

I would get the Plextor M3 instead of that Kingston SSD. It is a better, well-rounded performer and has good reliability.
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July 26, 2012 12:13:21 AM

Alrighty then. Only piece of information that I see missing there is what programs do you run for work? For now I'm just going to assume its Microsoft Office type work.

So, to parrot what was already said, unless you're doing some video editing, 3d modeling, etc; the build is over the top. Here is what I would recommend...

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d0Kt
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d0Kt/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d0Kt/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
-There's no benefit to gaming by getting an i7 over this i5. In fact the only thing that does benefit are highly threaded programs, which you don't see a whole lot of. Anyways, save yourself the$100.

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Amazon)
-Pretty much the best air cooler you can get and is in fact better than a lot of the lower cost water cooling solutions.

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($174.99 @ Newegg)
-That Asus mobo was way overpriced for relatively little gain in features. I would suggest either this motherboard, or a similar one.

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.99 @ Newegg)
- There is no point in getting over 8Gb of RAM if the most intensive task you will be doing is gaming. Unless you're doing some crazy amount of 3d modeling or other such things, you'll never even use all 8Gb. Also, a note on speeds, anything more than 1600mhz gives relatively little performance benefit while commanding a significantly higher price so in my opinion, very much not worth it. This set here will fit under that massive CPU cooler, runs at 1600mhz while having a slightly lower Cas latency (8 instead of the typical 9).

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($102.99 @ SuperBiiz)
-Long story short, the 10,000rpm drive is just not worth worrying about. You will never see the difference.

Hard Drive: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.00 @ B&H)
- An SSD is always a nice addition to a build and this one is one of the top ranked SSDs with plenty of space.

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($589.99 @ NCIX US)
- Since there is a lot of head room in the budget I decided why not go all out and get the lightning edition of the 680! If you wanted to trim back a few hundred bucks, you could get a 670 instead.

Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case ($143.35 @ NCIX US)
-Choosing a case is more of a personal thing, and it looked nice enough so I'd go head and use it.

Power Supply: Antec 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($271.82 @ Newegg)
-Given the budget, the plan to overclock the CPU, having an overclocked video card, and the plan to down the road SLI which would give you two OCed video cards, I would recommend any reputable brands 850 Watt PSU offerings (Corsair, Antec, Silverstone, Seasonic, etc;) BUT since we have a lot of money left, I recommend the above beauty. It actually exceeds the 80+ platinum efficiency requirement while also putting out more than enough amps down the 12 volt lines. This PSU will probably last you through multiple builds and is in all seriousness complete overkill. But if there is one place I would overkill, it's the PSU.

Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Newegg)
-Really any would do...

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($130.20 @ Amazon)
- Don't know if that's really necessary, but you requested it!

Total: $1993.30
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-25 19:40 EDT-0400)


Hope this helps, and if you have any questions or concerns don't hesitate to ask!
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July 26, 2012 12:30:35 AM

Going to beat a deadhorse,

The not buying 32gb of ram if windows only allows him to use 16gb is a good tip.


But if he's on Professional, hey, if he wants to spend an extra $55 so he can have 16gb, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

There is tons more "waste" with the other "overkill" parts that got recommend,

so no need to push "you only need 8gb of ram" anything more is wasted; especially if there is no downside other than the $55.

I could make the same argument, "you only need 60fps anything more is wasted".

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July 26, 2012 1:23:51 AM

To be fair, a single 680 playing Metro 2033 just barely makes it over 60 fps @1080 on ultra and high AA :lol: 

To be serious though, you make a valid point with the 16Gb raytseng. I guess I was just emphasizing it because it started at 32Gb lol. With a 2k build, there is always going to be "overkill" (though hopefully no waste!!). My intention was just to help reign it in a bit and perhaps focus it a bit more in what I felt was more deserving areas. I also tried to throw in cheaper alternatives with my more extravagant recommendations (a GTX 670 or a more down to earth 850 watt PSU). Overall I feel pretty good about it as is, seeing as how I managed to land under budget lol. But yah you're right, 16Gb is definitely not the end of the world to the tune of just $50.
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July 27, 2012 4:16:11 PM

Thanks everyone for your thoughts, you all have given me a lot to think about on this build and I appreciate your time and recommendations.

Thanks
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July 27, 2012 4:29:04 PM

For that budget that build seems incredibly ridiculous. I'd recommend something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($188.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($189.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1462.40
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-27 12:28 EDT-0400)
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July 27, 2012 5:09:35 PM

there was one suggestion to skip the sound card no one else commented on that. Do you think the on board audio on the MOBO is good enought?
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July 27, 2012 5:12:27 PM

Yes now a days the Sound card is normal best, saves a pci slot on your mobo, and its normall either 5.1 or 7.1 with Optical jack or regular jacks
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August 3, 2012 5:30:24 PM

Best answer selected by mike604.
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