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SHOULD BUY Fx 8350 or i5 3570

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December 7, 2012 10:46:58 AM

hey guys,

Im looking forward to buy a new rig around christmas but confuse with 2 of the give configurations-

please help me out with this--

INTEL I5 3570 ( THE NON K ONE)
Intel DB75EN Motherboard



OR THE AMD--

AMD FX 8350
Gigabyte GA-880GM-USB3 Motherboard

SHOULD I BUY GT630 4GB IS IT WORTH.

PLEASE HELP ME BECAUSE I WANT A FUTUTRE PROOF CPU MOSTLY FOR GAMING.
IM NOT GOING TO OVERCLOCK MUCH.SO DON'T NEED ANY OVERCLOCK OPTIONS.


REGARDS

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December 7, 2012 11:48:41 AM

If your not overclocking the i5 is the better option however that graphics card is very very weak and won't be good for gaming.
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December 7, 2012 1:43:21 PM

agreed, the gpu is not for gaming.. try the GTX 650 Ti.. low price high performance card..
If you want to squeeze the juice out of the procie, then you overclock it in the future and get the FX-8150 or 8250 or 8350, but be warned, get a better board.. a 970 or 990fx board..
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December 7, 2012 2:10:27 PM

I'm just saying, if he wants to overclock why buy the i5-3570 "non-k"
And please don't reply that i5-3570k beats FX yadayada, cause the only choices here are i5-3570 and FX-8350, (8150 and use extra money for gpu)..
And really i5-3570 non-k cannot be OVERCLOCKED, unless you have some magic going on there..
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December 7, 2012 3:26:24 PM

I dont see the point of overclocking a cpu, if a game runs well over 50fps in stock speed .. most of the time i5s give extra 20fps without overclocking in heavy cpu threaded games.. dont forget 8350 eats too much power even in stock speeds ..
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December 7, 2012 8:07:21 PM

Get the FX-6300 and use the ($80) savings towards a better video card (HD 7870) as others suggested.

6 cores vs 8 cores for gaming isn't much difference.
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December 7, 2012 8:23:52 PM

Why get an even slower AMD Chip?

He said he won't overclock so the i5 wins
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December 7, 2012 8:31:55 PM

Cazalan said:
Get the FX-6300 and use the ($80) savings towards a better video card (HD 7870) as others suggested.

6 cores vs 8 cores for gaming isn't much difference.

Would agree with that. The truth is that beyond synthetic benchmarks the FX CPU really do very good in gaming. I have two rigs one with a FX-8120 OC'd to 4GHz with just a 20x multiplier and one with a FX-8350 and both of them with a good GPU are very good gaming rigs. I have a Sapphire HD 6950>6970 in one rig and a Sapphire HD 7950 in the other and getting 60fps in any game I have played is no problem and that is at 1080p ultra/high in every game.

Yes the i5-i7 CPU's are good but for the money you can save you can get better GPU's PSU's and such and ultimately get a better rig in the long run. Had I gone with intel when I built my Christmas 2010 build I would not have been able to get the Sapphire HD 6950 reference card that got me a 6970 after the bios update. I would not have been happy with a lesser GPU.

But at the same time ether way you go get a good motherboard is the key to a good quality build plus a quality PSU.
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December 8, 2012 8:03:54 AM

darth pravus said:
Why get an even slower AMD Chip?

He said he won't overclock so the i5 wins


Seriously, the i5 wins? I won't deny the i5 is a good CPU, but dude, he wants a somewhat future proof cpu for gaming..
What's future is there for an i5 3570, that can't be overclocked? and don't tell me that he'll buy a z77 motherboard to upgrade to an intel cpu that can be overclocked! that will be a waste of money buying a z77 with an i5 3570 non-k, even if he will upgrade in the future, the money used to buy z77 will be wasted.
The rational thing to do if he'll buy an i5 3570 non-k is buy an H77 board, not z77, and buy a higher-end GPU.. Which if compared to getting an FX chip paired with an am3+ board, he'll be able to upgrade to 8 cores if he buys 6 cores, or the piledriver or future amd cpu's which in most likelihood can be used on am3+ boards, you know what I mean.
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December 8, 2012 9:17:27 AM

fine then guys im getting a bit confused help me out with a gud cpu under 1000 usds.
the main reason for going to the non overclock cpu is bcoz i damaged my old phenom 2 x6 1100t due to over- overclocking and all that.
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December 8, 2012 11:14:10 AM

bryonhowley said:
Would agree with that. The truth is that beyond synthetic benchmarks the FX CPU really do very good in gaming..

the truth is the 2 generation old AMD phenom II does better in gaming than an equivelantly clocked FX chip. So no, they arent good for gaming. An i3 is better. when are people going to get it? Its not about agreeing with it or not, its about factual gaming benchmarks.
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December 8, 2012 12:04:37 PM

empty213 said:
Seriously, the i5 wins? I won't deny the i5 is a good CPU, but dude, he wants a somewhat future proof cpu for gaming..
What's future is there for an i5 3570, that can't be overclocked? and don't tell me that he'll buy a z77 motherboard to upgrade to an intel cpu that can be overclocked! that will be a waste of money buying a z77 with an i5 3570 non-k, even if he will upgrade in the future, the money used to buy z77 will be wasted.
The rational thing to do if he'll buy an i5 3570 non-k is buy an H77 board, not z77, and buy a higher-end GPU.. Which if compared to getting an FX chip paired with an am3+ board, he'll be able to upgrade to 8 cores if he buys 6 cores, or the piledriver or future amd cpu's which in most likelihood can be used on am3+ boards, you know what I mean.




The locked i5 3570 smashed all amd cpu in games, even when the amd cpus ARE overclcoked.


The i3 3225 is all you need to beat the best stock amd cpu there is in gaming actually.



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December 8, 2012 12:06:14 PM

shaun_shaun said:
I dont see the point of overclocking a cpu, if a game runs well over 50fps in stock speed .. most of the time i5s give extra 20fps without overclocking in heavy cpu threaded games.. dont forget 8350 eats too much power even in stock speeds ..




The point of overclocking, is, not all games can be played at constant 60 fps WITHOUT doing so.
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December 10, 2012 6:45:21 AM

empty213 said:
Seriously, the i5 wins? I won't deny the i5 is a good CPU, but dude, he wants a somewhat future proof cpu for gaming..
What's future is there for an i5 3570, that can't be overclocked? and don't tell me that he'll buy a z77 motherboard to upgrade to an intel cpu that can be overclocked! that will be a waste of money buying a z77 with an i5 3570 non-k, even if he will upgrade in the future, the money used to buy z77 will be wasted.
The rational thing to do if he'll buy an i5 3570 non-k is buy an H77 board, not z77, and buy a higher-end GPU.. Which if compared to getting an FX chip paired with an am3+ board, he'll be able to upgrade to 8 cores if he buys 6 cores, or the piledriver or future amd cpu's which in most likelihood can be used on am3+ boards, you know what I mean.


The whole point of my answer was the fact he specifically said NO OVERCLOCKING making the i5 the obvious choice.

Now if overclocking was part of the equation then maybe it would be different.
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December 10, 2012 1:11:50 PM

not trying to be a fanboy.. but there is no point buying 8350, when even i5 3470 beats 8350 in most of the benchmarks .. specially in games, overclocked 8350 cant even compete with stock i5 3470.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-...
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-...

and now you can buy i5 3470 for $185 on Amazon that s $30 cheaper than 8350 and way more performance without overclocking ... so why waste extra $30?
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December 15, 2012 8:40:18 AM

I'd go for an FX-8150 or higher
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December 15, 2012 2:05:05 PM

empty213 said:
I'd go for an FX-8150 or higher



The 8150 is *lower* than the cpu's that are currently beign talked about in this thread.
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December 15, 2012 3:35:51 PM

The Core i5 3570 (non-K) can be overclocked, albeit limited. You can overclock 4 bins over turbo. This gives you a maximum of 4.2ghz.
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December 15, 2012 6:15:57 PM

If you want to go AMD go with the Phenom 965 Black X4, it's way cheaper at 90 dollars, and smashes even the FX-8350 in gaming. Use the money you save to get a decent card, for 200 bucks you can get a 7850 2GB or even a 7870 if you're lucky.

And the 3570 can be overclocked, just not very much, you have a maximum of 4.2GHz, maybe lower depending on your BIOS/board.
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December 15, 2012 9:15:25 PM

Unless the motherboard is using a bios with custom limitations, all non-K processors supporting Turbo Boost can be overclocked 4 bins (or 400mhz) above the turbo boost frequency.
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January 27, 2013 11:28:53 PM

lostgamer_03 said:
i5-3570 smashes all the FX CPUs in gaming

Just look

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-a...

And try to aim a Little higher on the GPU.

I would recommend GTX 660 and Radeon 7870 if you can afford those, they got a great value! :) 


just so you know it really doesn't win buy much and not in all games and it does better in multitasking and using adobe CS4 unproffesional because it is most likley not as good as multithreded and the CS6 and most people would have updated their Photoshop to CS6 rather than staying with the old CS4 and it doesnt smash it in all games just lookhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc:
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January 27, 2013 11:32:38 PM

maxalge said:
The locked i5 3570 smashed all amd cpu in games, even when the amd cpus ARE overclcoked.


The i3 3225 is all you need to beat the best stock amd cpu there is in gaming actually.

wrong doesn't look *** up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc
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January 27, 2013 11:39:18 PM

maxalge said:
The locked i5 3570 smashed all amd cpu in games, even when the amd cpus ARE overclcoked.


The i3 3225 is all you need to beat the best stock amd cpu there is in gaming actually.


and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbRc6Fb2u0A
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January 27, 2013 11:54:39 PM

maxalge said:
http://techreport.com/review/23750/amd-fx-8350-processo...


"Yet the FX-8350's gaming performance almost exactly matches that of the Core i3-3225, a $134 Ivy Bridge-based processor"


Nice thread necro btw...


the cache on the intel CPUs is better thats why they are better in games like skyrim but i dont think you watched the videos since you said that
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January 28, 2013 12:38:02 AM

i would personally get a 6300/4300 or i3 3220 and a better gpu
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April 15, 2013 11:19:03 AM

All these people arguing amd this, intel that look they are both pretty much on the same par it's all down to personal preference get one or the other but defiantly scrap that gpu and get radeon 78**, 79** or gtx 6** series card for good gaming , case closed!.
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April 15, 2013 11:46:44 AM

The answer is very simple here, if your main objective is just gaming then get the i5 3570K, games benefits more of performance per clock than the number of cores. A good comparison will be to see the performance of Assasins creed 3 which is optimized to just use one or two cores, the performance difference is huge, same story in Skyrim.
But if you are planning to do other activities then just get the FX 8350 as it will be more useful and you will benefit from all cores.
Also if you are planning on casual gaming and other activities still get the Fx 8350 as it is very good for gaming too but not as good as the i5.

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