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July 26, 2012 12:14:41 PM

Approx. purchase date: August/September 2012

Budget Range: 35000Php (Cant use dollars since it wont help me with purchase)

System Usage from Most to Least important: Gaming (DOTA2, Saints row 3, Skyrim), School work, SLIGHT usage of AutoCAD

Are you buying a monitor: Yes.

Parts to upgrade: Everything.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred website for parts: pcx.com.ph

Location: Manila, Philippines

Parts preference: Id like an Intel CPU :) 

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: I dont have a monitor so Id like a 1366x768 (most common around here, but the higher the better :) )

Additional comments: First timer here so anything suggested will be accepted :D 

And Most Importantly, Why are you Upgrading: Laptop cant handle most games anymore.

Havent got any parts since I dont know which are good and bad. (first timer, remember xD)

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July 26, 2012 12:28:17 PM

First off, what branch would you buy? Near Gilmore? I'm also here in the Philippines. :) 
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July 26, 2012 12:30:41 PM

gatgat23 said:
First off, what branch would you buy? Near Gilmore? I'm also here in the Philippines. :) 


Alabang :D 
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July 26, 2012 12:47:45 PM

gatgat23 said:
Can you buy here? Look at the Alabang Branch section.
I compared the price of PCX and PChub, PChub is cheaper. That's where I'm also buying. :) 

If you can buy there, I might start this one off.

EDIT: Forgot the link. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NTutiHnCumxIrH2GS_2...

Yep, I can buy there :D 
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July 26, 2012 1:33:23 PM

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 (3.1G) 6mb 22nm ₱8,700.00
Mobo: Asus P8H67-M LE H67 V/S/GL ₱4,350.00
RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 8gb 1600 (12800CL9D) 2x4 ₱2,500.00
GPU: PowerColor HD6870 1gb ddr5 ₱8,700.00
HDD: 1.0TB WD Black 64mb ₱5,000.00
Case: CoolerMaster Elite 431 Plus ₱2,250.00
PSU: CoolerMaster GX Series 650w ₱3,995.00
ODD: Asus 24x 24B3ST ₱900.00
Monitor: 15.6” LG E1642C LED 1366x768 ₱3,250.00

Total: ₱35145.00 [EDIT!: 39645 PHP! MS Calculator has messed up? :sarcastic: ]

Didn't use the one that I told you about. You need to be a member of TPC so you can have the membership discounts. Sorry about that.

EDIT: MAAAN, I forgot your OS! The parts already high. :(  I really hate the prices here in the Philippines. :bounce: 
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July 26, 2012 1:37:35 PM

Im pretty sure CMaster PSUs are bad o.o Seen reviews about some of them. Anyways, whats the website of PChub? Tried to find it but it didnt seem to show up. Indeed, very overpriced T.T lol.
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July 26, 2012 1:50:25 PM

Yeah, CM PSU's are quite bad but not really, specially Silent Series.
I just picked GX Series as the price is already high. And just made it 650w.
I would have picked the Silent Pro 600w, but it is around 500 - 700 PHP high.

PChub's just using the TipidPC site.
Here it is: http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub

The prices you see there are the prices for TipidPC members.
You will see the regular price inside the item link.
So, if you register at TipidPC, you can get the discounted price. (Which is a bit cheaper the PCX.)
Just tell them your TPC username and your good to go.

There's only one risk though if you just tell you username.
If there's no internet in the branch, you will have a hard time.
So, please read this in order to claim discounted prices. https://docs.google.com/document/view?id=1opxWXkTgO5G0B...
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July 26, 2012 1:59:56 PM

gatgat23 said:
Yeah, CM PSU's are quite bad but not really, specially Silent Series.
I just picked GX Series as the price is already high. And just made it 650w.
I would have picked the Silent Pro 600w, but it is around 500 - 700 PHP high.

PChub's just using the TipidPC site.
Here it is: http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub

The prices you see there are the prices for TipidPC members.
You will see the regular price inside the item link.
So, if you register at TipidPC, you can get the discounted price. (Which is a bit cheaper the PCX.)
Just tell them your TPC username and your good to go.

There's only one risk though if you just tell you username.
If there's no internet in the branch, you will have a hard time.
So, please read this in order to claim discounted prices. https://docs.google.com/document/view?id=1opxWXkTgO5G0B...

I like their stuff though lol. Much more available parts, so I guess Ill just register :)  Can you make a build from the PChub place, incase I buy from PChub. Thanks for your help, been a great start here. :D 

EDIT: I can buy some parts from PCX if needed. :) 
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July 26, 2012 2:11:48 PM

Sure. I'll make it now. Will edit this post if finished. :) 

EDIT:
CPU: Intel Core i3 2120 3.3GHz (Dual Core) PHP 4999.00
Mobo: lga1155 Asrock H77M PHP 4420.00
RAM: G.Skill RipJaws X (dual) 2x4gb ddr3 1600 CL9 (F3 12800CL9D 8GBXL) PHP 2440.00
GPU: Sapphire HD 6850 1gb/256bit ddr5 PHP 7580.00
HDD: Seagate 1tb 7200.12rpm 32mb sata PHP 4100.00
Case: Cooler Master (RC-431P-KWN2) Elite 431 Plus --- FREE Thermalpaste PHP 2140.00
PSU: Antec 620watts High Current Gamer Series, 80Plus Bronze PHP 4120.00
ODD: LG 24x Sata (OEM) PHP 950.00
Monitor: Samsung 15.6" (S16A100N) LCD, LED PHP 3290.00

Total: PHP 34039.00.

Still no space for the OS. :(  If you could just add more...........

The CPU is i3. I've just searched Google, and that i3 is still good at gaming. Well, great performance.
I've changed Mobo to a higher "class?". Since you're not going to OC, this and the CPU will be good.
Case, still the same. PChub added a Free Themalpaste promo. Thermalpaste is a CM paste. :)  Don't know which one, though.
PSU, a bit higher value but worth it. :) 
ODD can read Blu-ray discs. That's what I saw in the LG site.
GPU, lower GPU but can have the same performance to 6870 or faster if you OC it.

Much better than the other one. Look at the price on the other build that I posted, man. Lol. :) 
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July 27, 2012 7:01:10 AM

^I did say I didnt want to OC lol.
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July 27, 2012 7:12:12 AM

Still, the GPU has a nice performance. :) 
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July 27, 2012 7:16:25 AM

You can go over the budget but not more than around 3000PHP, maximum Ill go for is 38000Php. :) 
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July 27, 2012 7:19:01 AM

Included OS? I might find a way...
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July 27, 2012 7:21:44 AM

Yep, included OS. :) 

EDIT: Ill just be buying from PCX as PChub seems to have stock problems lol.
Will just be getting a PSU and probably case at PChub, maybe more.
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July 27, 2012 8:07:00 AM

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 ₱5,150.00
Mobo: Asrock H77M VSL/usb3 ₱4,400.00
RAM: G.Skill RipJaws X (Dual) 2x4gb ddr3 1333 CL9 (F3 10666CL9D 8GBXL) ₱2,210.00
GPU: PowerColor HD6850 1gb ddr5 ₱6,300.00
HDD: 1.0TB Seagate Barracuda ₱4,300.00
Case: CoolerMaster Elite 431 Plus ₱2,250.00
PSU: Seasonic (S12II) 520watts PSU 80Plus Bronze ₱2,850.00
ODD: Asus 24x 24B3ST ₱900.00
Monitor: 15.6” LG E1642C LED 1366x768 ₱3,250.00

Total: ₱31,610.00

I couldn't open PCX now. Don't know why.
For the OS, pick the Windows 7 Home Premium OEM in PCX.
If you could add more in the budget, I would prefer the Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), 'cause OEM is not really good.

EDIT:
Here it is.

http://pcx.com.ph/others/softwares/win7-home-premium-oe... <-- Home Premium OEM.
Total for all including Home Premium OEM: ₱36,010.00

http://pcx.com.ph/others/softwares/windows-7-profession... <-- Professional (64-bit)
Total for all incl. Professional: ₱38,160.00
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July 27, 2012 8:12:49 AM

gatgat23 said:
CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 ₱5,150.00
Mobo: Asrock H77M VSL/usb3 ₱4,400.00
RAM: Kingston Hyper X memory 4gb (1600C9D3B1/4G) 1x4 ₱1,350.00
GPU: PowerColor HD6850 1gb ddr5 ₱6,300.00
HDD: 1.0TB Seagate Barracuda ₱4,300.00
Case: CoolerMaster Elite 431 Plus ₱2,250.00
PSU: CoolerMaster Silent Pro M600w ₱4,300.00
ODD: Asus 24x 24B3ST ₱900.00
Monitor: 15.6” LG E1642C LED 1366x768 ₱3,250.00

Total: ₱32,200.00

I couldn't open PCX now. Don't know why.
For the OS, pick the Windows 7 Home Premium OEM in PCX.
If you could add more in the budget, I would prefer the Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), 'cause OEM is not really good.


Dont know why you picked Kingston RAM. It may damage the Intel processor cause of high voltage :/ . Bad PSU. Ill make a build for you later, @OP. Just using an iPad atm. -.- Meanwhile, check my sig build :p  you might be able to put it in as Ive bought them for like 38000Php. (with everything)
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July 27, 2012 8:15:52 AM

Oops, sorry. Didn't saw the rated voltage of that thing.
Will find another. :sarcastic: 

EDIT: It's just the site has limited parts. Very limited. :/ 
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July 27, 2012 8:23:03 AM

gatgat23 said:
Oops, sorry. Didn't saw the rated voltage of that thing.
Will find another. :sarcastic: 

EDIT: It's just the site has limited parts. Very limited. :/ 

I used PCX and indeed if has VERY limited hardware lol. Id go to PCHub, they have more stuff, but the actual prices on their site is for CASH payments only, theres a different price for credit cards and its higher, in the item link. :) 
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July 27, 2012 8:33:20 AM

Yeah. That's the only problem. And, you should be a member so you can get the discounted price.

Might change the PSU and RAM. I will take a look again at PChub.

EDIT: Ok, I changed the PSU and RAM above.
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July 27, 2012 8:46:19 AM

Isn't that over the budget "a bit"?
If he could afford 6870, it will be great. :) 

By the way, PSU and RAM is from PChub.

Let's just wait for OP, then. :) 
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July 27, 2012 8:56:43 AM

I like that 560 idea, Ill definitely try to get one. Anyways, I also like that PSU and RAM :D . Although I am still open for suggestions since wont be purchasing in atleast 2 weeks.
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July 28, 2012 1:46:23 AM

CPU: Intel Core i3 2120
GPU: Inno3d GTX560Ti 1GB DDR5
Mobo: ASrock H77M
RAM: G.Skill Ares 2x4GB DDr3 1333
HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda
PSU: Antec High Current Gamer 620W
ODD: Asus 24x 24B3ST

Total: 29145Php (without OS and monitor.)

What do you guys think? Is it good?

I have a few questions about the RAM, PSU and MB.
Whats the difference between G.Skill RipJaws and Ares?
Is my PSU modular and good enough for this system? (12V and stuff like that)
Whats gonna happen if I put a PCI-e 2.0 GPU into a PCI-e 3.0 slot?

I dont know what a good case is but I like this one: http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/crafted_series/lexa_s

Total with ^case: roughly 32145Php (didnt use calculator lol)
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July 28, 2012 2:17:32 AM

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July 28, 2012 7:02:55 AM

I'm on mobile right now. I'll answer some.

Ares and Ripjaws doesn't have much difference.
I prefer Ares but might have higher value.

I think the PSU you picked might not be the one which is the modular of HCG Series.
HCG Series is a great PSU.

I'd prefer HD 6870 over 560ti.
It's much cheaper but it can par with 6870.

Nothing's really gonna happen if you put a PCIe 2.0 on a 3.0.
You just won't benefit the bandwidth that 3.0 offers.
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July 28, 2012 1:59:10 PM

If you can add a 1000 PHP, then you can buy 560 ti.
It's almost a par for 6870 and 560 ti.
But, you decide. :) 
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