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EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti good starter card?

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Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2012 8:05:35 PM

Hey guys
Im here to ask the un-ending pool of knowledge on this forum if, the EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti is a good card for a first time builder to use, my PSU has 4 molex so the power isnt a concern (although my case has 3 fans that need molex, the rear case and two on the sides so ill just connect the one on the other side of the case so i dont have to disconnect it every time i open it) so no problems on that front. i just want to know how good of a card for gaming this is
I mainly play TF2, Torchlight, and Gmod but my laptop can only run gmod and torchlight, TF2 lags. But i really want to play GTAV and Planetside2 when they come out, i understand this is probably not possible, but this is all i can afford in my budget
(And before you ask my CPU is a Intel Core i3-2120 so i dont think it will bottleneck, and my mobo is a Gigabyte Z68P-DS3. I'm planning on OCing once I get an aftermarket heat sink)
http://www.dabs.ie/products/evga-geforce-gtx-550-ti-951...
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2012 8:06:04 PM

sorry, forgot to add. Thanks for any help given! :D 
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Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2012 8:29:29 PM

im buying off dabs because postage and packaging has become a hindrance, and dont forget the euros to pound conversion in those cards too. And I can get either of them as ive already pushed my budget to the limit, im intending to upgrade in 2013-14 anyway once i get a job (im only 15, 16 in sep so)
a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2012 8:33:23 PM

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im buying off dabs because postage and packaging has become a hindrance, and dont forget the euros to pound conversion in those cards too. And I can get either of them as ive already pushed my budget to the limit, im intending to upgrade in 2013-14 anyway once i get a job (im only 15, 16 in sep so)


If thats all you can afford then go for it.
a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2012 8:34:58 PM

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8 pounds is alot? lol....
When it totally whips the 460....


Where did you get £8 from. I think you must be confussed.
a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2012 8:35:11 PM

Double post.
a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2012 8:44:50 PM

I see, well from your previous post it looked like you where saying a GTX 460 is more expensive than a 550Ti therefore it is a bad recommendation, evan though you had recommended the 6870 which is evan more expensive.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2012 9:21:30 PM

I just want to know, for my budget, is the GTX550TI a good card, there are alot more GTX550's that are cheaper but i think this is one of the best
June 3, 2012 9:30:45 PM

As a 550 owner I can tell you that it is worth saving your money and getting one that is better. I am dissappointed with mine because it is just not powerful enough.
a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2012 9:32:53 PM

voodooking said:
As a 550 owner I can tell you that it is worth saving your money and getting one that is better. I am dissappointed with mine because it is just not powerful enough.


Good advice
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 1:50:27 AM

I don't have any money too save, its either the EVGA or something worse, im a 15year old with no income, the best I can afford is this. I was just inquiring if thers any card that are cheaper and better, or if this card will handle basic gaming (im not going dual monitors and its not gunna be at high res either) These are the specs
(ignore the small little doodads like internet and mouse and such) TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter

Zalman Z11 Plus High Performance Mid Tower Case

Samsung SH-S223 22x DVD-RW SATA OEM (Black)

Samsung 750GB Spinpoint M8 SATA 3 Gb/s 2.5" 5400RPM 8MB 9.5mm

Gigabyte Z68P-DS3 S1155 Intel Z68 DDR3 ATX

Intel Core i3-2120 3.30GHz LGA1155 3MB

Gigabyte M6880 Laser Mouse

Corsair Memory 4GB (1x4GB) Vengeance Performance DDR3 1600MHz CL9

Corsair Memory 600W Builder Series CX V2 ATX PSU

EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 951MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI SuperClocked
a c 191 U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 2:18:09 AM

I recently tested a HD7750. That card is weaker than a GTX550Ti. I can tell you that it plays older games at 1920x1080 just fine, and newer ones with lowered settings. Considering how good modern games look on only "Medium" settings, I can assure you that you will not "suffer" if all you can afford right now is a GTX550Ti.
As to the rest of your build:
Zalman Z11 Plus High Performance Mid Tower Case
- Appears to be a nice case, but on a budget, you might be able to step down a little and still get something decent.

Samsung SH-S223 22x DVD-RW SATA OEM (Black)
- One optical drive is much like another

Samsung 750GB Spinpoint M8 SATA 3 Gb/s 2.5" 5400RPM 8MB 9.5mm
- This is the FIRST place to spend more money on this build. Look for a 7200RPM drive; this one will be slow, and you'll feel that every day. Get something smaller too, especially if it lets you spend more on something else. Drive space is one of the easiest things to add later.

Gigabyte Z68P-DS3 S1155 Intel Z68 DDR3 ATX
- Now this is the first place to cut back. With an i3, you don't need to be concerned about overclocking features. A H67 board will be sufficient. Look for one with USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s. The latter will get the most benefit from a SSD if you ever get one, and the former will make using an external drive for backup a reasonable proposition.

Intel Core i3-2120 3.30GHz LGA1155 3MB
- Fine.

Gigabyte M6880 Laser Mouse
- Fine. I like Logitech mice like the LX3 with a tilt wheel, but this one looks reasonable and not expensive.

Corsair Memory 4GB (1x4GB) Vengeance Performance DDR3 1600MHz CL9
- Unless you are planning to get another stick as an almost immediate upgrade, get 2x2GB or 2x4GB so you can operate in dual-channel mode. It's not a huge difference, but it's there.

Corsair Memory 600W Builder Series CX V2 ATX PSU
- Fine; glad to see you're not getting cheap junk. Your build may not use 300W running flat out, so feel free to drop this back to the 500W model if it saves enough money. That will still leave enough capacity for a graphics card upgrade in the future, should you want it.
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Anyway, my $0.02.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 12:38:59 PM

I reduced the memory to a 500GB Seagate Barracuda at 7500rpm and got a H67 board, it was more expensive though - http://www.dabs.ie/products/asus-p8h67-rev-3-0-lga1155-... but with the money i saved from the cheaper HDD and PSU I can afford it, im guessing this board does not have overclocking in mind?
(by cheaper i mean i got a Corsair 500W which was cheaper)
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 12:48:32 PM

http://www.dabs.ie/ - I've €125 or less to play with now (i could probably shave off a couple of euro here or there but the components i have now i really dont want to change) so if you would like to help me use http://www.dabs.ie/ and fine a graphics card that you think is the best bang for my buck,
thanks

EDIT: im actually looking at the Sapphire Radeon 7770 for €137 (i can afford it just about) http://www.dabs.ie/products/sapphire-technology-ati-rad...
a c 191 U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 1:16:25 PM

If the Z68 board was cheaper than the H67 but has USB3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s, then go ahead and get it; I would have thought H67 would be the cheaper of the two.
A HD7770 would be a nicer card than the GTX550Ti.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 3:23:58 PM

It has neither of those things, so ill fork out the extra for the H67, and in terms of performance, how much better is the HD7770 then the 550TI? thanks
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 3:32:57 PM

the 6870 is €152, the 7770 is €137 and the 550Ti is €117. i think the 6870 is just out of reach, unless I lower the price somehow. the PC costs €620, excluding windows and monitor (i think my sister can get a student edition of windows and i will just get a simple monitor till i can afford a monitor with a HDMI port)
a c 191 U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 4:04:28 PM

You don't need a HDMI port; DVI will do just fine.
The HD6850 is similar to the HD7770, maybe slightly ahead in more things, although I can't but think that driver optimizations for the new card might alter that. It should also be cheaper than the HD6870.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 4:15:27 PM

So stay with the 7770, its also the HD7770 factory OC. The HD6850 is the same price as the 6870, I think i will stick with the 7770 for the time being, maybe even use crossfire later on... or buy a much better card entirely. I will see, I want to build a gaming rig but i think starting with this card is the best choice for my budget.
The power is no concern, ive a 500W, and im using the 'P67' and a 'i3' CPU
June 4, 2012 5:04:10 PM

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With an AMD A8 platform....
No offense, but i am sure the OP's CPU will not hold him back...



You're right aabout that! I live with it everyday!!
a c 191 U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 5:07:18 PM

Yeah, the HD7770 should be a decent card. I ordered one myself, which should arrive today.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 6:03:58 PM

Off topic- is an AMD CPU really that bad? atleast for gaming? I'm going intel anyway, i love intel but just wondering.

On topic - okay, HD7770 it is, should be a good pc anyway:) 
a c 191 U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 8:04:39 PM

That bad? No, not really, most of the time. Gaming usually relies on the GPU more than the CPU for overall performance, but there are a few exceptions, and CPU muscle may be more important in multi-GPU configurations.
If benchmarks suggest that that a certain game is "just playable" (by whatever standards you use, e.g. 40 FPS average, 30 FPS minimum; whatever), if that measurement was taken with an Intel CPU, it is possible that an AMD CPU would drop the few frames that would put it into the "unplayable" realm. If you're comfortably in a playable range though, the CPU won't make much difference.
Still, today, a new build should be Intel. I did see stuttering in some Unigine Heaven tests I ran on a hyperthreaded i5/650 CPU with a HD7750 (not "slow" performance, which one would expect with that card, but "stuttering"). This leaves me unconvinced that a hyperthreaded CPU will offer as subjectively smooth an experience as a true quad at the same price, even if it is faster. I will likely need to run some more tests. My test rig is down at the moment, but I hope to have it back up next weekend.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 11:21:02 PM

So what your saying is AMD is good, but for gaming and other things, its not up to par with an Intel CPU? that makes sense. And I said that bad because ive heard people talking about how the highest end AMD is not even on par with a low grade CPU like my I3-2120. I would never buy AMD because of what ive heard, unless it was a work PC and not intended for gaming. Is HT new tech? I had never heard about it until i joined here, so i dont fully understand it
a c 191 U Graphics card
June 4, 2012 11:38:30 PM

That depends. Before this thread wanders too far off topic, you may want to read some of the articles and reviews of AMD and/or Intel CPUs. Otherwise you risk getting fanbois on either side cranked up.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 12:09:40 AM

true, well thanks tons for all the help, im going with the HD7770, seams like a good card for the price
a c 191 U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 1:05:55 AM

Mine came in tonight and I've installed it. Before reading the rest of my remarks, note that it is the overclocked XFX Black Edition, so a reference HD7770 will not do as well. I was very surprised that its MINIMUM frame rate under various conditions on the Unigine Heaven benchmark were very close to or actually BETTER than a GTX560Ti with the same settings. Of course, the maximum frame rates were notably lower, but IMHO the minimum frame rate is what needs to stay good for smoothness. I've only tested it in a couple of actual 3D games, but they were older titles that aren't demanding enough to have made a difference.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 1:17:22 AM

wait... (i want the Radeon 7770 HD thats factory oc'ed) so i will get a slightly less powerful version of your card even though the card i want has 1120MHz and yours is 1095mhz (i dont understand what mhz even are so i dont know if lower is better tbh)
is this your card? http://www.dabs.ie/products/xfx-ati-radeon-7770-hd-1095...
a c 191 U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 2:09:48 AM

No, mine is this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... but if yours is running at 1120MHz rather than 1095 MHz, it will be even faster, not slower.

Edit: Interesting. I looked on Dabs at the HD7770s they offer. They don't have mine. There is a "super" overclocked XFX with the dual fans, but not the "regular" overclocked one. The one you showed is a Black Edition, but has only one fan. Mine has two.
June 5, 2012 2:40:33 AM

Dude I bought the gtx 550 ti this morning what a coincidence... It is a Point of view nvidia gtx 550 ti... it has me really impressed so far and I play 1080p. The only problem with this manufacterer is the tems I think 70ºC under load is very high. I think EVGA will do better. I can play Assasins Creed maxed out, HoN, Need for speed the run, dirt 3 I think this one not fully maxed out and watching some revievs I think you I play BF3 in ultra settings, I just don't have the game yet so that's all I can say... Pretty good card I gotta say. Better than the radeon 6770, 6790. Good luck.
a b U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 10:09:56 AM

majadito said:
Dude I bought the gtx 550 ti this morning what a coincidence... It is a Point of view nvidia gtx 550 ti... it has me really impressed so far and I play 1080p. The only problem with this manufacterer is the tems I think 70ºC under load is very high. I think EVGA will do better. I can play Assasins Creed maxed out, HoN, Need for speed the run, dirt 3 I think this one not fully maxed out and watching some revievs I think you I play BF3 in ultra settings, I just don't have the game yet so that's all I can say... Pretty good card I gotta say. Better than the radeon 6770, 6790. Good luck.


Did you just say a 550Ti can play BF3 on Ultra @ 1080?
a b U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 2:30:29 PM

1368x768 is not 1920x1080
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 4:45:04 PM

Well considering i changed from the EVGA to the sapphire HD7770, is the 7770 better then the GTX?
a b U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 6:41:37 PM

Quote:
Never said it was.........


Your link is a video of BF3 being played at 1368x768 in response to my post which I said 1920x1080

Gothams Finest said:
Did you just say a 550Ti can play BF3 on Ultra @ 1080?

Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 7:22:59 PM

no need for insults guys
a c 705 U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 7:34:45 PM

Knock off the insults and help the OP!
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 9:47:00 PM

Ive gathered the 550Ti is a good card, but is ive stated many times, ive changed too a Sapphire HD7770 OC and wish to know if the 7770 is a good card, ive already gathered its good but how good?
a c 191 U Graphics card
June 5, 2012 10:01:30 PM

I think you will have no regrets over getting the HD7770. Sometimes the second-guessing needs to end. Enjoy your games.
a b U Graphics card
June 6, 2012 8:40:47 AM

Quote:
Ive gathered the 550Ti is a good card, but is ive stated many times, ive changed too a Sapphire HD7770 OC and wish to know if the 7770 is a good card, ive already gathered its good but how good?


Why not use google and read some reviews/benchmarks?

Here, I'll get you started:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...
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