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July 26, 2012 6:25:50 PM

okay... i am looking to build a budget gaming pc. and at first i was for sure going for the intel cause of what i read but i have been looking on youtube at gameplay videos of arma 2 thats the game i am looking to play. and most of them have like AMD CPU's and it runs it on max... so here is my AMD build then i will show you my intel build

AMD

AMD phenom II x4 965 black edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sapphire radeon hd 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G. skill ripjaw series 4GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair builders series 600w psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte ga-970a0d3 mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

western digital caviar blue 500GB hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus 24X dvd burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill challenger black gaming case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

windows 7 64 bit oem SP1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total (with shipping and promo code discounts) - $679

Intel-

intel core i3 2120 3.3Ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sapphire radeon hd 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.skill ripjaw series 4GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair builder series 600W psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asrock extreme4 z77 MOBO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

western digital caviar blue 500GB hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill challenger black gaming case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus 24X dvd burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

windows 7 64 bit oem SP1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total - about $735 ( plus shipping and promo codes discount)

so i would much rather go with the AMD one cause its alot cheaper and im only 16 and thats alot of money for me as it is. so saving some would help!! and i would also like to overclock and i know amd can do that. i should also mention that if i was gonna be upgrading soon i would go with intel but its to expensive for me so i wont be upgrading this year and most of next probably. but yeah i saw on youtube them playing arma 2 maxed with the amd one and i havent seen any intel core i3 2120 arma 2 maxed.. so its cheaper and does better.. so i think i should go with that one.. but any thing you guys wanna fix about my build or tell me if i left out something? or just feedback in general (and no i cannot get the i5 instead of i3 to much $$) would be greatly appreciated thanks! :) 
July 26, 2012 6:39:18 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

just a little food for thought. I personally would go with the i3. Also, I don't think you need a 600w PSU if you got the intel (which could save you a few bucks), but someone else with a little more experience would need to chime in on that one.
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July 26, 2012 7:17:56 PM

They're both going to game about the same. Lots of people will start huge flame wars over this statement, but it is a fact, that 1-5FPS is not a REAL difference. End of story, Intel fanboys, sit your ass down. :lol: 
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July 26, 2012 7:30:39 PM

I can however, and will. "improve" both of those builds:

This power supply is more than sufficient for both builds:

Corsair CX500v2- $40 with mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would suggest 8GB of RAM-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD- Open box deal motherboard, of better quality. Asus does honor the warranty on "open box deals", this one is $65

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The full retail, unopened-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Intel- Cheaper, decent motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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As to which one I would pick personally, it should be obvious, but worth pointing out if you order that Phenom II before 7/30 its only $95 dollars. In my opinion that completely ends the debate right there.
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July 26, 2012 7:36:08 PM

nekulturny said:
I can however, and will. "improve" both of those builds:

This power supply is more than sufficient for both builds:

Corsair CX500v2- $40 with mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would suggest 8GB of RAM-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD- Open box deal motherboard, of better quality. Asus does honor the warranty on "open box deals", this one is $65

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The full retail, unopened-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Intel- Cheaper, decent motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


i think he's right on both accounts. for a budget gaming computer you could do with a less expensive motherboard and psu, and still do just as well overall.
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July 26, 2012 7:39:06 PM

Yea, that Intel board actually is pretty nice for its price. Its a Z77 chipset, which does give you the option of dropping in an i5 Ivy Bridge later on, and it has 6 power phases, so its not horrible for overclocking said i5. Although for most games, overclocking is more or less just a toy. Either CPU should give you a good 3-4 years of solid gaming performance, which is about the most you can expect out of a CPU before something bigger and badder comes along.
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July 26, 2012 7:39:17 PM

open box may not come with any screws or SATA cables however.


this shoudl be better than either of your builds:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($51.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($166.49 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($54.42 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.65 @ Amazon)
Total: $718.47
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-26 15:39 EDT-0400)

you might also be able to get windows cheaper if you have a way to prove you're a student -- Win7 Pro for $30 instead
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July 26, 2012 7:42:07 PM

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open box may not come with any screws or SATA cables however.


Motherboards don't come with screws, they come with the case. But you're right, thats the advantage of Asus honoring the warranty. lol.

Pretty nice build for $718, I have to admit, but I'm not a big fan of how low blow you went on the motherboard to squeeze the i5 in there. That board is crap. H61 chipset, no USB 3.0, no SATA III, only 2 DIMMs, 1 year warranty. Its junk.

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you might also be able to get windows cheaper if you have a way to prove you're a student -- Win7 Pro for $30 instead


I have an unlimited key to Windows7 professional through my college and it didn't cost me a dime.
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July 26, 2012 7:49:06 PM

ScrewySqrl said:


you might also be able to get windows cheaper if you have a way to prove you're a student -- Win7 Pro for $30 instead


where do you find this deal at? i found 65 on microsofts website, but nowhere stating 30
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July 26, 2012 7:51:59 PM

carowden said:
where do you find this deal at? i found 65 on microsofts website, but nowhere stating 30

I don't know where you buy a copy of Windows7 for 30 bucks, but I get my free Windows via Microsoft Academic Alliance. If you're in college you should find out if its available to you. My school, its only available to tech students. I have access to pretty much any kind of software microsoft has ever made for free. Although, they only give you Access in the Office line of software, Word, Excel and Powerpoint they won't give us for free, since thats actually what Microsoft makes most of their money on.
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July 26, 2012 7:55:08 PM

nekulturny said:
I don't know where you buy a copy of Windows7 for 30 bucks, but I get my free Windows via Microsoft Academic Alliance. If you're in college you should find out if its available to you. My school, its only available to tech students. I have access to pretty much any kind of software microsoft has ever made for free. Although, they only give you Access in the Office line of software, Word, Excel and Powerpoint they won't give us for free, since thats actually what Microsoft makes most of their money on.


i seriously just found the only good thing about going back to school for a 9th semester, im gonna get as much of this as possible. do i have to purchase it after i graduate or is it full software?
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July 26, 2012 8:01:44 PM

The "official" policy is, you're only supposed to use it for the duration of being a student. Meaning after you cease going to school you are expected to remove the software. However, this disclaimer was delivered by the professor with a *wink wink, nod nod*. Once you get a key its only good for 2 years, but Microsoft is not monitoring when you stop going to school or graduate. As such, you can use the software as long as you want.

One word of caution however, do not try to sell the software for profit, Microsoft can and does prosecute those dumb enough to do so. Apparently someone in our school tried it, I don't think they have let him out of jail yet. He was selling it on Ebay. Bad idea.
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July 26, 2012 8:05:09 PM

oh that was the farthest thing from what i wanted to do, i just wanted to upgrade my machine. well to the OP, to keep this related, you should definitely try to get this deal too haha
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July 26, 2012 8:18:36 PM

nekulturny said:
...Pretty nice build for $718, I have to admit, but I'm not a big fan of how low blow you went on the motherboard to squeeze the i5 in there. That board is crap. H61 chipset, no USB 3.0, no SATA III, only 2 DIMMs, 1 year warranty. Its junk.
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I agree. It was indeed a nice build, except for a crappy mobo. ASRock has a couple of low-priced models that have both USB3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s.
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July 26, 2012 8:55:25 PM

BTW, should you decide order the Asus open box mobo and you find it doesn't have a SATA cable shoot me a PM with your address, I'll send you one, I have a buttload of them. But honestly, SATA cables are only 2 or 3 bucks from Newegg, its not going to really offset the savings there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 26, 2012 9:33:27 PM

nekulturny said:
I can however, and will. "improve" both of those builds:

This power supply is more than sufficient for both builds:

Corsair CX500v2- $40 with mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would suggest 8GB of RAM-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD- Open box deal motherboard, of better quality. Asus does honor the warranty on "open box deals", this one is $65

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The full retail, unopened-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-----

Intel- Cheaper, decent motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

----

As to which one I would pick personally, it should be obvious, but worth pointing out if you order that Phenom II before 7/30 its only $95 dollars. In my opinion that completely ends the debate right there.

^ +1

I have to agree with nekulturney's suggestions. I would go with the AMD build with nekulturney's revisions. ScrewySqrl's suggestion isn't bad, but I have to concur with others that the quality of that motherboard is questionable.
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July 26, 2012 10:18:17 PM

That does not mean switching to an AMD build, however. Reviews and benchmarks ALL show that there is no price point at which Intel does not outperform AMD in games, sometimes significantly. That games are often more GPU-bound than limited by the CPU is certainly true, and I will say that during the last GW2 Beta Weekend, my 970BE+HD7870 notably outperformed my i5-3570K+HD7770. Had I swapped those graphics cards, however (I left them this way to specifically test which was the limiting factor), no doubt the i5+HD7870 would have been better still.
You could buy a Pentium 850G and a decent Z77 board today, and get CPU performance in games comparable to an AMD 980BE, but whereas the AMD build may be at or near the best it will ever get (Piledriver is an unknown), the Intel system has lots of upgrade room. Even if Piledriver matches a SB i5 (and I would not bet on that), I don't see it beating IB i5.
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July 26, 2012 10:33:28 PM

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Even if Piledriver matches a SB i5 (and I would not bet on that), I don't see it beating IB i5.


For gaming IB i5 doesn't beat SB i5. But you're right its unlikely PileDriver will beat either, even so. At least, not at stock speeds anyway.


You also have to contend with the fact that next year, Intel goes LGA1150. Sure the Ivys will still be around, although I'm not one to advocate buying a CPU, using it for 6 months to a year then tossing it in the garbage for a better one. Computers go obsolete fast enough without adding your own obsoletions.
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July 26, 2012 10:40:54 PM

Get the AMD one, someone's gotta buy their stuff and keep them in business :lol: 
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July 26, 2012 10:41:46 PM

stickg1 said:
Get the AMD one, someone's gotta buy their stuff and keep them in business :lol: 

LOL, I doubt AMD is going anywhere. Their CPUs might go bye bye, but their video cards still rock Nvidia's world.
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July 26, 2012 10:46:39 PM

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dweeb... :p 

Yo mama! :hello: 
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July 26, 2012 10:48:19 PM

nekulturny said:
LOL, I doubt AMD is going anywhere. Their CPUs might go bye bye, but their video cards still rock Nvidia's world.


Yeah I was joking, I do love me an AMD GPU.

But seriously that AMD build will game really well. And it is kind of silly to start a big fight over a handful of frames in just a couple of games. I think it's important to have a quad core if you're trying to use the build for a couple of years.
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July 26, 2012 10:53:19 PM

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But seriously that AMD build will game really well. And it is kind of silly to start a big fight over a handful of frames in just a couple of games. I think it's important to have a quad core if you're trying to use the build for a couple of years.

So do I. Although, I have to admit the i3-2120 does pretty well for what it is. I know, it hurts to say it and I'm sure Mal will never let me live it down. But, theres no way I'm sticking a Pentium SB in a computer and calling it a "gamer" PC. LOL
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July 26, 2012 10:55:20 PM

well I looked up the
980BE 3.7 vs I3-2120
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=362
now please realize that is very easy to get 4ghz from the 965BE
yes in gaming the 2120 has an advantage but the GPU is more important especially at higher resolutions
also maybe at 16 all you are using your computer for is gaming but as your horizons expand a true quad core will outperform the dual core HT in multithreaded work

BUT your upgrade path with the AM3+ is looking pretty miserable
the Piledriver is supposed to be the last CPU on the Am3+ socket
while your upgrade options on the Z77 1155 board are much better
even the 2600K is dropping in price and in a year or two will be an awesome deal

now if all your going to do is game then really the 1155 Intel is the way to go
and by the time you go to college and might need your computer for more serious applications than the 1155 Sandybridge quad cores will be very reasonably priced
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July 26, 2012 10:59:15 PM

I can agree with everything you said except this:

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and by the time you go to college and might need your computer for more serious applications than the 1155 Sandybridge quad cores will be very reasonably priced


Easily verified by looking around at various merchants and find what they have left of their older gen CPUs like Lynnefield and Clarksdale. They're still the same price they were when they were brand new, even though they're several years old now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As far as multithreaded work, actually PileDriver is looking somewhat promising, its the individual core performance they're still suffering with. And I'm basing that on Tom's review of the new Trinity APUs against the i3-2105.
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July 26, 2012 11:04:46 PM

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gaming = Intel

Alrite. Point blank question. Since you have both, and I actually trust you to give me an honest answer. Tell me what you think is the better buy.

Phenom II 965 @ $95 or i3-2120 @ $125, no other costs or factors considered. Strictly CPU to CPU. I'm content to let your answer be final as far as I'm concerned.
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July 26, 2012 11:07:48 PM

okay fair enough but the 2500k is $220 right now and will probably level off at the $200 mark
a OCd 2500k will destroy a Piledriver IMHO from reading the trinity reviews and the piledriver thread
in two years when he goes to college he would almost have to do a platform upgrade
which is at least $75 for mobo and easily over a hundred even for an AMD quadcore
when instead he will be able to get a nice upgrade to a 2500K and still have 2600k,2700k and the Ivy bridge lineup as upgrade options
Heck Microcenter USA has been offering the 2500K for $169 for local pickup
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July 26, 2012 11:10:43 PM

Yeah I think we got into the pricing issue when that guy suggested a Core 2 Duo a week or two ago. They still sell for over $100. Intel products either go out of stock and discontinued or stay at roughly the same price point until they all sell. They wont take more than a $30 loss over original retail value.

The individual retailer may take a loss or break even to get you into the store or for a promotion but they pretty much stay the same price.
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July 26, 2012 11:27:37 PM

AMD will save you cash and it will game just fine. Intel will have better performance now, and in the future. Choose well. Good luck !
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July 26, 2012 11:30:07 PM

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for right now and not upgrading........ 965BE + 990FX
definitely upgrading and also better furure-proofing...... i3-2120 + Z68/Z77

*smack* you used that phrase that I hate so much. lol.

BTW, I like it when there is a civil discussion on the subject, don't you?

To explain my philosophy, I generally try to part the build recommendations I do around a 3-4 year window. Since I'm of the opinion thats the maximum window of time a given platform is worth upgrading before a new platform is more often than not going to be the most economically sound decision, based on the evolutionary history of computers. What is your definition of "future proofing"?

@ King SMP
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a OCd 2500k will destroy a Piledriver IMHO from reading the trinity reviews and the piledriver thread


Too soon to tell for sure, although the Bulldozer already does take the i5 for a walk on certain applications, if Tom's estimate is carried out and PileDriver does indeed manage a 10-15 percent improvement in these areas I'm not sure "destroyed" is the word I would use. Especially if PileDriver like Bulldozer manages to hit that $170 price point after awhile like they have now with their 8120s. At least, thats what I'm hoping for anyway. At the very least, maybe it will make Intel stop being the greedy pigs they are and drop their excessive quad core price points. :lol: 

As far as having to do a platform upgrade for school stuff in 2 years. I doubt it. But that really depends on what type of stuff hes doing in school. It doesn't exactly take an i7-3930K to run Microsoft Office or hit up Encyclopedia Britannica you know?


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Heck Microcenter USA has been offering the 2500K for $169 for local pickup


Don't count on MicroCenter being in business that much longer. They're great deals, they can't be argued with. But they're selling those CPUs as loss-leaders. MC has a terrible infrastructure for online ordering, they're trying to prop up their Brick & Mortar stores, thats a mistake that I'm willing to bet heavily will be their undoing in this economy.

@ Stickg1

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Yeah I think we got into the pricing issue when that guy suggested a Core 2 Duo a week or two ago.

Yea I remember that, poor kid, it was almost like he was dropped into a hot-zone in Cambodia. That really aggravated me how mean some of the people were to him, no matter how wrong he was.
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July 26, 2012 11:42:34 PM

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@ Stickg1

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Yeah I think we got into the pricing issue when that guy suggested a Core 2 Duo a week or two ago.

Yea I remember that, poor kid, it was almost like he was dropped into a hot-zone in Cambodia. That really aggravated me how mean some of the people were to him, no matter how wrong he was.


Yeah, I was a little mean when I said it was "the most ridiculous thing I ever heard" but I just thought it was a bad idea. And yeah I may have been responsible for the people jumping him like street gang in a back alley, but I also didn't anticipating that escalating so quickly. :??: 

Oh well, I think I apologized at least. :) 
Maybe next time he'll suggest something that was produced in this decade. :D 
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July 26, 2012 11:51:59 PM

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* future-proofing in this case means better upgrade path.
we already know Intel is the better unit.


But would you advocate in say 3 years sticking a Ivy Bridge CPU on a Z77 motherboard, especially considering at that point we would have had Haswell, and probably Broadwell? Thats what I'm trying to get at. If the CPU you have does what you need it to do for that long, I can't see the point in "upgrading" the platform at that point, replacing it seems to be the better option. Regardless of which one you start with.

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* and I'm getting tired of all the flaming again and fanboi's, 9K to go until 'master' then I retire or change up my style on here.
either way it goes, my time is about up.


You know I'm going to miss you right? You're abrasive at times, but still honest, and it seems to its becoming a rarer quality on these forums.


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* Piledriver though better than Bulldozer will still be a disappointment.

We shall see.

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* if you lived closer to a Microcenter you would complain..


LOL, I've only been to one once, Rockville, MD is the closest to me, its about 3 hours one way. The store is quite impressive, its like a Walmart for computer nerds. But in this economy, those kind of stores are not going to survive. PC building is not really a "Try before you buy" kind of thing, its not like buying a mattress where you have to actually lay down on a few to know what you're getting. People who buy computers are just buying any old thing they think is good, or they actually know what they want cus they've done their homework and are going to buy it online. Its not like you walk into a MicroCenter and say "yea, let me try out your 2500K with a Sapphire 7870". Its not a business that requires a "Show floor" ya know?

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* if a person is wrong and have attitude then he's open for target practice..


No comment, I've said all I have to say about it, in both this thread and the one it occurred in originally. I agree with what Proximon said when he showed up.
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July 27, 2012 12:37:20 AM

hmmm does anybody else but me realize that the OP (cynosure) hasnt posted since the original post?

maybe we all take a break and wait for him/her to come back and post again before we derail this thread more than we have
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July 27, 2012 12:38:58 AM

I did notice that lol, although I did notice he had at least logged in since his icon said he was online when we were posting earlier. Although, so far things have been civil, a much welcome change from threads of this nature. I remain hopeful. lol
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July 27, 2012 2:15:15 AM

nekulturny said:
I can however, and will. "improve" both of those builds:

This power supply is more than sufficient for both builds:

Corsair CX500v2- $40 with mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would suggest 8GB of RAM-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD- Open box deal motherboard, of better quality. Asus does honor the warranty on "open box deals", this one is $65

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The full retail, unopened-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-----

Intel- Cheaper, decent motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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As to which one I would pick personally, it should be obvious, but worth pointing out if you order that Phenom II before 7/30 its only $95 dollars. In my opinion that completely ends the debate right there.


Yeah that asus board is actually the one i switched to later today when i was doing research. now im kinda nervous about that open box would it be worth it to go for it?? oh and i figured since it is way cheaper i am getting the AMD build but only buying like the processor, PSU, dvd burn, ram, and mother board cause some of the things were on sale and it ends soon. so yeah thanks!
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July 27, 2012 2:21:18 AM

oh never mind i see it. i just already had the promo code in and it kinda escaped me what it was for haha
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July 27, 2012 2:21:22 AM

oh and also.. the phenom II X4 965 BE isnt $95 if you buy before 7/30.... i dont see that deal any where is there something i am missing O.o
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July 27, 2012 3:21:28 AM

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July 27, 2012 3:32:22 AM

cynosure33 said:
Yeah that asus board is actually the one i switched to later today when i was doing research. now im kinda nervous about that open box would it be worth it to go for it?? oh and i figured since it is way cheaper i am getting the AMD build but only buying like the processor, PSU, dvd burn, ram, and mother board cause some of the things were on sale and it ends soon. so yeah thanks!

I think it is yes. Worst case scenario, you always have 30 days to return to newegg for an exchange. In my experience newegg is pretty good about taking care of you should any problems occur. My guess is should you find SATA cables are missing, they'd probably send you one. Even if newegg doesn't help you out, which is extremely unlikely, like I said, I checked on this several months ago. Asus will honor the warranty on the motherboard, even if it is an "open box". Meaning someone bought it before and for some reason decided they didnt' want it.

And like I said, I'm serious, even as a further fail safe, if you find that you have no way of getting a SATA cable, I have a bunch of them. Ironically, I returned a defective Gigabyte board and kept the 4 SATA cables that came with it myself lol.
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nekulturny said:
I think it is yes. Worst case scenario, you always have 30 days to return to newegg for an exchange. In my experience newegg is pretty good about taking care of you should any problems occur. My guess is should you find SATA cables are missing, they'd probably send you one. Even if newegg doesn't help you out, which is extremely unlikely, like I said, I checked on this several months ago. Asus will honor the warranty on the motherboard, even if it is an "open box". Meaning someone bought it before and for some reason decided they didnt' want it.

And like I said, I'm serious, even as a further fail safe, if you find that you have no way of getting a SATA cable, I have a bunch of them. Ironically, I returned a defective Gigabyte board and kept the 4 SATA cables that came with it myself lol.


well i was going to get it but its deactivated now! :??:  so yeah... but thats fine lol. i have one more question for you nekulturny or any one i guess. would it be bad if i bought like the processor, ram, mobo, and power supply today and then waited like a month to buy the other ones. cause i dont have the money at this point to buy the whole thing but i wanna take advantage of the sale... so would that be a bad choice? or an okay? i might be able to buy the video card today but idk yet.. so if thats a terrible idea let me know.. thanks!!
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July 27, 2012 8:17:34 PM

Well. with the Phenom II the computer wont work without a video card, just so you understand that. You would need a motherboard with an onboard video chipset. Honestly, most of them are junk. Technically, that makes my first sentence incorrect. But with the lack of viable options (in my opinion) for a quality AMD board with onboard video, you might want to take a second look at the i3-2120.

You can however have a fully functional computer without a video card with the i3-2120 as they have a graphics processor as part of the processor. While, they aren't particularly powerful, they're good enough to at least get the computer running, browse the web and watch movies. Don't have high expectations for gaming performance without a video card though.

If you have to buy thing in shifts, that in and of itself isn't horrible but just so you know what the basics requirements are to have a fully functional system.
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August 27, 2012 8:46:17 PM

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