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Need Review of my setup please, Will it work? and is it good?

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July 27, 2012 4:10:21 AM

ok, firstimer here so i wanna make sure itll work out nicely. this is an uber budget project of 350$ the parts ive listed here will be about 300$

Haves:

Haf 912 Coolmaster Case:
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/landing/haf912/home.php

3TB External seagate go flex drive, that i will disassemble as use as the hard drive, all i need to do is format it right? and buy necessary cables.

about 4 old CD drives that work just fine. probably will just need cables...those havent changed right?

Wireless card, old sound card that i probably wont need...

And i think thats all of my haves, aside from Razer gear and an AOC 21" monitor

Buying:
A8-3850 AMD Llano processor, from a local store since its cheaper and they'll probably help me with the building for free...i hope:
http://www.startechsandiego.com/index.php?main_page=pro...

MOBO:ASROCK A75 Pro 4 FM1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:2x2Gbs(maybe 4 depending on my left over budget.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and PSU:Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 took forever to find a good PSU...or one that at least looks good...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thats everything i need for a running PC correct? windows 7 will be my OS but im considering XP....not sure yet...will also co install linux as well so for questions...

1.Will it run? lol simple but i must ask
2.Is that power supply enough for a future addition of a GPU, more RAM and fans?
3.Any improvements? ill probably pick up an after market heatsink if my budget allows and more fans for the case as well
4.any further suggestions? Thanks for any answers.

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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
July 27, 2012 10:37:24 AM

use 1.5 volt RAM

some really old cd drives will be IDE with wide ribbon data cables . Motherboards dont have that connector any more but if they are SATA drives you should be fine .

620 watts will run a very top end graphics card from the most recent generation

Honestly though Llano is about to be replaced .
I'd buy an FX 4100
mb with a 970 series chipset
and 2 x2 gig of RAM

You would need a basic graphics card in the interim too though
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July 27, 2012 10:50:03 AM

Alot of pre-fab externals are not traditional SATA connectors when you disassemble them, as they may have the USB connectors soldered right to their controller... do a bit of research before you break you external for nothing.

Also, this myth about 1.65V RAM is absurd... I have used Kingston HyperX in over 100 systems, Sandy Bridge, Bulldozer or whatever without any issues.
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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
July 27, 2012 11:24:41 AM

sephmeister said:


Also, this myth about 1.65V RAM is absurd... I have used Kingston HyperX in over 100 systems, Sandy Bridge, Bulldozer or whatever without any issues.


AMD and Intel both rate their products for use with 1.5 volt RAM . Intel wont pay warrantys on their processors if you use 1.65 volt RAM . AMD probably do the same

And it was less than 15 months ago that intel stopped distributing socket 1155 motherboards for 3 months because the SATA controller voltage was eventually going to damage the mb .
With memory its not whether 1.65 volt RAM will work . The issue is whether your cpu's memory controller [ and thus your whole computer] will be working in a couple of years time .

Good luck replacing the processors and RAM in those 100 systems you built .
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July 27, 2012 4:34:51 PM

so...Wintec One 2x2Gbs would be better? least in the interest of keeping my warranty lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ya...the reason for Llano is obviously the built in chip, seems it will run most of the games i play just fine, the tests were being run on high/max settings and i run most of my games on low settings anyways. if i were to get a processor/GPU/MOBO then id cost a lot more and i really couldn' t afford it.

ive also seen a similar model external drive being taken apart and it looked fine the only diffrence being the size

As for the CD drive i will be using my laptops drive, just checked and it is indeed sata...probably just need some adapters right?

I also linked the wrong PSU, fixed it
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July 27, 2012 10:27:57 PM

Outlander_04 said:


Good luck replacing the processors and RAM in those 100 systems you built .


Thanks for that douchebagish remark.

I've never had to replace a processor for those reasons in the 18+ months since the Sandy Bridge issues initially arose.

I won't have to replace any RAM because there is nothing wrong with it lol... and even if I do, I'm on great terms with Kingston.

Also, It could easily be argued that because Intel lists several 1.65V memory models as compatible on their website that it shouldn't affect the limited warranty they offer. If that doesn't work then I guess it's a good thing I'm an Intel Gold Partner?

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/gaming-co...
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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
July 28, 2012 1:32:29 AM

sephmeister said:
Thanks for that douchebagish remark.

I've never had to replace a processor for those reasons in the 18+ months since the Sandy Bridge issues initially arose.

I won't have to replace any RAM because there is nothing wrong with it lol... and even if I do, I'm on great terms with Kingston.

Also, It could easily be argued that because Intel lists several 1.65V memory models as compatible on their website that it shouldn't affect the limited warranty they offer. If that doesn't work then I guess it's a good thing I'm an Intel Gold Partner?

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/gaming-co...



None of the original SATA controllers were going to fail inside 2 years according to the accelerated testing done by mb companies . But they were going to fail .

Your dating could use some work . Intel socket 1155 processors have barely been on sale for 18 months . You can expect that some of the ones you are fitting higher voltage RAM to will start failing in about 6 months , and between 5 and 10 % will have failed by the end f the third year

So I say again

Good luck replacing the processors and RAM in those 100 systems you built
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July 28, 2012 2:35:38 AM

so anyone wanna help me out anymore...? lol
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July 28, 2012 2:53:33 AM

Outlander...You're clearly a moron who should stop "helping" people on here.

For starters, my "dating" needs no work. Many Sandy Bridge chips were officially released January 9th, 2011. My 18+ months quick estimate was pretty accurate so thanks for the nit-picking. On January 31st, 2011, Intel officially issued the recall... not "less than 15 months ago" like you claimed.

The SATA controller failure that prompted the Sandy Bridge recall last January had absolutely nothing to do with RAM. The B2 stepping chipsets on P67 motherboards were the culprit of the recall, and even then they were supposed to have a mere 5% failure rate during most motherboards warranty periods(3 years).

While higher than normal voltage RAM can supposedly damage the cpu's memory controller, there is no official documentation or source stating that 1.65V memory will damage it or void your cpu's warranty.

So, unless you can provide some cold hard facts relating to your outrageous claims, I think we're done here.

Sorry to the OP for getting so off-topic, I just hate when morons try to use scare tactics and false information as some form of advice.
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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
July 28, 2012 2:54:17 AM

Streetguru said:
so anyone wanna help me out anymore...? lol


I do see why you would use Llano , but I'd still advise against it at this point . Llano is about to be replaced by Trinity , and trinity use a different socket . There wont be more Llano apu's .

If you did go with the AM3+ suggestion you do need that budget [ maybe second hand ] graphics card to be up and running , but you do get the chance to upgrade for a couple of years and you do get better gaming performance later on

FX 4100 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
[ no internal USB 3 headers for the front of the case ]

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $28.50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$208

You could add an aftermarket cooler like the hyper 212 for $35

Or you could upgrade the motherboard to
Asus M5A 97 evo $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or you could spend on a graphics card like Radeon 6770 for $98 [after rebate ] and be able to game reasonably well straight away
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 28, 2012 2:58:37 AM

the other option i was considering was getting this bundle

http://www.startechsandiego.com/index.php?main_page=pro...

at my local PC Store to get started and getting the i3 2120 for only 24$ more...then i have plenty of money left over for fans/graphics card and misc things....but idk micro Mobo doesnt leave much room for extra parts
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a c 136 B Homebuilt system
July 28, 2012 2:58:39 AM

sephmeister said:
Outlander...You're clearly a moron who should stop "helping" people on here.

For starters, my "dating" needs no work. Many Sandy Bridge chips were officially released January 9th, 2011. My 18+ months quick estimate was pretty accurate so thanks for the nit-picking. On January 31st, 2011, Intel officially issued the recall... not "less than 15 months ago" like you claimed.

The SATA controller failure that prompted the Sandy Bridge recall last January had absolutely nothing to do with RAM. The B2 stepping chipsets on P67 motherboards were the culprit of the recall, and even then they were supposed to have a mere 5% failure rate during most motherboards warranty periods(3 years).

While higher than normal voltage RAM can supposedly damage the cpu's memory controller, there is no official documentation or source stating that 1.65V memory will damage it or void your cpu's warranty.

So, unless you can provide some cold hard facts relating to your outrageous claims, I think we're done here.

Sorry to the OP for getting so off-topic, I just hate when morons try to use scare tactics and false information as some form of advice.


You said it was 18 + months since the problems arose. . Your dating does need some work .

Yes the sata controller and RAM voltage are not directly related and I have said that already . But it is an example of how too much voltage damages microprocessors . Only a fool would fail to heed this obvious example

Read this
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/333313-31-intel-speed...

Yes you are done .
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July 28, 2012 4:53:36 AM

Streetguru said:


As for the CD drive i will be using my laptops drive, just checked and it is indeed sata...probably just need some adapters right?


I put a 2nd CD/DVD drive in my system from a laptop. It was a "slim IDE" connector on it. It took much research to find that out.

All I needed was a slim IDE plug converter to regular IDE plug. Its a tiny 2inch by 1inch circuit board that you plug into the back of the CD/DVD drive. Then you run the IDE cable from the other side of it to your IDE plug-in on the Motherboard.

You say that you have a SATA plug-in in the back of your CD/DVD though, so if that is the case, all you have to do is get a SATA cable and plug it in.

However IDE is also referred to as PATA. SATA is the tiny little black connector that has an "L" like shape.
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