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"Vertoobli" <motoko@null.com> wrote in message
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> Just started my first hunter. It seems to me to be a really good
> class, not too ropey, even though I have no crowd control. Having just
> passed the Pet training test at lvl 10, I now have a pet piggy, I know
> cats do more DPS and Bears are tough etc. But the Piggy suits my Dwarf
> and I think they will make a good team.
>
You already know Growl by default if you took the followup quest from that
same NPC. You were likely sent to Ironforge to speak to a Hunter trainer
there and they gave you things like Rez Pet. Open your Train Pet window by
clicking on the Slingshot icon that is under the General tab or your
spellbook iirc (could be Beast Mastery and Feed Pet is in general, I get
those two confused, lol). You will see a list of things you know and can
teach your pet and it shows how many training points your pet has. Pet
training points increase as it's loyalty increases (they are unrelated to
the pets level, only it's loyalty level).
>
> One thing thats confusing me, is that I can apparently "record" one
> pets abilities so as another pet can use them.
> How do I do this? and does it apply to things like wolves being able
> to hamstring? ( I think it would be a beneficial skill for a piggy).
Train your pet in Growl at a minimum. Growl WILL keep mobs off you until
your Agility gets very high and you start getting big crits very regularly.
Not having kept a pig as a pet I am guessing here that it could be taught
Bite and Dash (at the proper level). Both of these would be valuable. I
doubt it could be taught Claw. I am unsure whether or not it could be
taught Cower. Someone recommended the WoW Hunter Boards, I concur, there is
a list of pet types and what they can learn in there (a link in a sticky
post iirc).
To learn a skill from a creature you must put your pig in the Stable (Stable
Masters are at various towns usually but not always near Inns). You are now
petless so you can go tame a creature with an ability you want to learn.
Once you've tamed it, fight with it until a message shows up saying you have
learned the skill. Usually killing one or two mobs with the new pet will
teach you the skill. If you aren't sure if you learned it, look in the
Train Pet box and it will be listed with the other skills if you have
learned it. If you haven't it won't be in the list. Once in your list you
can Abandon the new pet, get your pig out of the Stable and train it in the
new skill, assuming it has enough training points and the skill is learnable
by a pig.
> Also, does my pig retain its Charge ability when I made it into a pet?
>
No. Growl, Cower, Bite, Claw, Dash (land animal), Dart (air animal) are the
only learnable abilities iirc. Dash is the nearest equivalent since it
causes the pet to approach the mob being attacked very quickly (much like
charge but without the increased damage when it gets there). I can't recall
when a pet can learn Dash 1, but I'm pretty sure it's not until at least the
20's, I'm thinking 30ish even, maybe. Look for a link to the Good
Intentions, a WoW Guild site. They have an excellent Hunter's Pet link on
the left of their main page. It will show you the mob, zone and level each
skill can be learned and taught.
> One last thing (yeah, multitopic,) Is a debate between myself and my
> good lady. Even though I don't have aimed shot yet, I have noted her
> use (shes always had a hunter) and she always
>
> Send Pet ->concussive Shot -> aimed shot
>
> I personally would
>
> Send Pet -> Aimed Shot -> Concussive
> Using the "big" magic arrow attack that I currently have, its in
> place of Aimed shot. Which is more effective? Bearing in mind, by
> effective I mean, which keeps the flack off me most.
>
>
Most effective to "keep the flack off you" is, set fire trap, send pet, let
pet Growl, hit Follow command on pet command line, when mob gets near fire
trap hit Attack command on pet command line, making sure mob hits trap, pet
will Growl again. Sting shot, Arcane shot, let autoshot continue until
Arcane shot refreshes. If mob is not already almost dead you can either
Arcane or Aimed shot.
I personally found that Aimed shot was not that effective. In the time it
took me to fire one Aimed shot I could have shot an Arcane shot and a couple
or three regular shots. When you get your Agility high and improve your
Crit damage and chance to Crit with talents you will find that the regular
and sizeable crits on basic autoshot, Stings, and occassional Arcane Shot
seem perfectly adequate to down mobs quickly with much less mana use than
Aimed Shot. (Less mana use means less downtime means more mobs killed means
more gold and experience.)
Too many times I had the mob turn and start running toward me while my Aimed
Shot was waiting to go off. I lost that time I could have been doing damage
with autoshot plus the opportunity to use Concussion Shot to slow or stun
the mob and do even more damage as it approached. The tradeoff of more mana
and minimal if any overall dps increase made me move Aimed Shot to specific
situations in which I needed a "for sure" big hit, say at the end of a
runner's life. Then it is useful if you have a VERY good sense of when to
start Aimed Shot so it goes off at the proper time. Otherwise the only use
I had for Aimed Shot was the "ooh, ahhh" effect when I happened to get a big
crit on it. Even if the overall dps of the shot didn't impress me, the raw
number hovering over the mobs head on a big Aimed Shot crit does in fact
look "ooh, ahhh" ish.
Hope that Helps and Happy Hunting!
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