Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

What upgrade would i benefit the most from?

Last response: in Systems
Share
July 27, 2012 4:25:48 PM

Hi i am just getting started in upgrading my computer and i was wondering what i should start with.

Approximate Purchase Date: by next week

Budget Range: 100-300

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Mainly Gaming some skyrim here, some RTS here and there, and WoW from time to time

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade:
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T 2.7GHz
Motherboard: Infineon-B 620887-01
RAM: 8 GB RAM
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6450

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Location: Spokane, WA

Parts Preferences: None

Overclocking: Maybe (don't know how, and not gonna download scam software to do it)

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Skyrim is my main problem right now, its a major love hate relationship the game is great but it is very choppy when i'm playing and is almost unplayable... but i still play even with the performance issue

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Skyrim + any future game i'm going to have to have

if you need any more info from me just let me know. thanks for any suggestions i really appreciate the help



More about : upgrade benefit

July 27, 2012 4:27:58 PM

First of all, No software download is necessary for OC'ing (its all done in your Bios)
Secondly I personal would upgrade the CPU, and motherboard if possible (ie get a FX4100 or a 965 BE with any Asus AM3+ board)
Third, if your not going to upgrade the CPU/MOBO then Upgrade your GPU to either a 7xxx series for ATI or a 6xx series for a Nvidia
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:19:34 PM

GPU upgrade will be your best bet. 6450 is weak for Skyrim at 1080 res. If you need proof just dial back your video setting and you will see thing smooth out. CPU upgrade won't get you near as much a bump up as the GPU.
m
0
l
Related resources
July 27, 2012 5:23:23 PM

Quote:
That Phenom II is perfectly fine.

Where the hell do you get your info Shellshocker?



what info?

I know OCing doesnt take any software, Ive OC'ed my cpu, GFX maybe
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:26:09 PM

well normally, with updated processors newer is sometimes usually better. i had a 965be for the longest time. and like i said PERSONALLY
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:36:13 PM

Only difference is 1mb of l2 cache, the 965be has lower voltage, so temps are cooler. one has 6 cores the other has 4
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:42:52 PM

and if you upgraded to a FX platform - say the FX-4100 you will see more L2 cache, and l3 cache making it faster then the hex core
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:44:39 PM

Quote:
Just FYI that CPU he has is a thuban core, and is therefor newer :) 
Overclocking will sort his CPU out.



Yeah for skyrim this processor is fine when overclocked. I have a box with a 1055t + 6850 for the kids and it runs great overclocked at 3.8ghz.



This is a nice video guide on how to do it, your processor would require the same steps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a7AxZJ7tWc


You would see a GIGANTIC benefit from a new video card.



A 7850 falls comfortably into your budget.


I believe you can get a xfx 7850 for $219.99, $199.99 after rebate in newegg.

This would allow you to buy an aftermarket cpu cooler as well.


m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:46:00 PM

Shockattackr said:
First of all, No software download is necessary for OC'ing (its all done in your Bios)
Secondly I personal would upgrade the CPU, and motherboard if possible (ie get a FX4100 or a 965 BE with any Asus AM3+ board)
Third, if your not going to upgrade the CPU/MOBO then Upgrade your GPU to either a 7xxx series for ATI or a 6xx series for a Nvidia




A 4100 is a step down from a phenom 2 in gaming...

m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:46:38 PM

show me some benches then
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:48:14 PM

True.The 1045T is a very good CPU but really needs to be overclocked to shine.
I'd get an Asrock 970 Extreme3 as a minimum.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
70 dollars

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
38/28 Dollars

If you havent listed your power supply than its probably a cheap 350W one.I personally wouldnt keep that thing in my PC a second longet than i need to.

Take a look at this one right here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And with the money left you should buy a good graphics card.
Right now you can get a GTX 560 with a good custom cooler for just about 150$ after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Thats really as good as it gets for that price.
Just as a note the HD 6870's perform better than a GTX 560 at stock.But the GTX 560 can gain a lot more performance through overclocking than a HD 6870 and so when both are overclocked the GTX 560 will win.

If you arent going to overclock this is the card for you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:51:53 PM

i still dont see the 1045T
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:54:00 PM

Your graphics is weak. Look at the newest tom's article "best graphics cards for the money" and pick the best you can afford. The CPU is not the weak link here.
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:54:35 PM

And lastly OMG Shockattackr who told you that?!?!
The Phenoms are FAR better than the FX's at the same clock speed.Its not a matter of cache here.If cache was that important then the FX 4100 would outperform a Intel 2500K.Remember FX CPU's are 25% slower than a Phenom at the same clock speed.The reason why Bulldozer CPU's underperform is because their cores share recources.Thats why the FX 4100 isnt a Quad Core CPU.Its a Dual Module CPU.
And here is the bench you asked for.
http://www.legionhardware.com/images/review/AMD_FX-8150...
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:54:40 PM

To me thats a list from 2011, I believe its the year 2012, Yes i can see the 4100 behind in some tests, but where does the 1045T stand?

Personally, ive stopped using all AMD Boards and processor, cause they are *** now compared to intels
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:55:57 PM

Kamen_BG said:
And lastly OMG Shockattackr who told you that?!?!
The Phenoms are FAR better than the FX's at the same clock speed.Its not a matter of cache here.If cache was that important then the FX 4100 would outperform a Intel 2500K.Remember FX CPU's are 25% slower than a Phenom at the same clock speed.The reason why Bulldozer CPU's underperform is because their cores share recources.Thats why the FX 4100 isnt a Quad Core CPU.Its a Dual Module CPU.
And here is the bench you asked for.
http://www.legionhardware.com/images/review/AMD_FX-8150...



also i love the 500 internal server error, best kind of benchmark
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 5:58:00 PM

ok yes it will beat the 4100, but it doesnt come close to the 8 core, or higher end 6 core
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 6:03:34 PM

this is what i mean, once you OC the ship. yes it has a fair fight, not oc`ed it doesnt stand a chance
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 6:07:20 PM

i was just suggesting. Not actually saying go with this, if i did i would have said go i5 3570k with asrock Z77 extreme4
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 6:09:51 PM

better processors are always better :D 
m
0
l
July 27, 2012 6:25:40 PM

Quote:
GI Joe -
"Now you know, and knowing is half the battle."
:lol: 


nah always knew that the FX series was a flop its why i switched over to intel. I had a 965be that was overclocked
m
0
l
July 28, 2012 1:22:58 AM





Funny you should mention the gtx 480, I picked up one on ebay couple of days ago, sucker does 850/1700/2000 on 1.025 and never gets past 70's in games with a nice fan profile on afterburner.


=)
m
0
l
!