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July 27, 2012 5:34:19 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm building my first Gaming rig since a long time ago. I've been using a modest laptop for the last couple years and it's proving very dificult to run most recent games nowadays on anything higher then Low settings.

I'm more of a MMO gamer (WoW and such) with the ocasional FPS in between.

I'm mostly looking to build a rig that allows me to play Wow and possibily Gw2 on max setting while still able to record some footage.

Another thing to note is that, i am currently using an Hp 21'' LCD monitor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - but 21''instead). It's quite old, i've had this forever now but i just love it. I'm running games at 1600x1280 resolution.

I "might" run the occasional VMware and so that's the reason for the high amount of RAM.

I'd really appreciate any insight on anything i could improve without any drastic budget change.

A couple of the things i'm worried about is:

1) I'm considering replacing the monitor down the road for something bigger, Will i be fine with this setup in a 24'' or 27'' Asus on the latest games and maxxed out graphics? What about if i use 2 monitors? I'm currently using my laptop connected to my Hp LCD so i'm quite used to having 2 screens to work with, so that's something i'd like to look for later - Getting another monitor.
2) Is this build solid to run another 7850 in Crossfire or will the rest of the build slow the GPU's down? I'm a cheap guy, so i will probably keep this for a couple years at least and buying a second GPU to Crossfire with is more likely then replacing it for a brand new FOTM graphic card :-)
3) I'm still not sure which 7850 brand to pick from, but so far, it ASUS for the noise vs performance reviews i've read around the web. HiS seems to be another nice one.
4) PSU. It this too much for the build? Even considering the room for Crossfire down the road and possibily another HDD for extra storage? This PSU is quite expensive but i like the fact that it's modular (except for the mainboard cables).
5) CPU Cooler : noctua nh-d14 vs silver arrow


So this is how it looks on paper so far.


CPU INTEL Core i5 3570k Ivy Bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER THERMALRIGHT Silver Arrow
http://www.svc.com/silverarrow.html

BOARD ASROCK Z77 EXTREME 4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE COOLERMASTER HAF X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD WESTERN DIGITAL WD5003ABYX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD KINGSTON SH103S3/120G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM KINGSTON KHX1600C9D3K4/16GX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thanks alot

[EDIT: Added links for quicker reference, even thought i won't be purchasing from those websites. I'm from Portugal so prices may vary a bit, but currently i'm looking at a 1300€ give or take on paper after some research on national stores. I'd like to keep that budget as a roof or if possible lower it a bit)
July 27, 2012 6:50:17 PM

1) Your monitor size doesn't matter. Your resolution does matter. The 7850 will be able to max WoW or GW2 on 1920x1080 no problem. With 2 monitors, if you play games on one of them, it should be fine as well.

2) Yes, your build should be able to crossfire. You might not even need to if you never upgrade your monitor resolution. The 7850 will be able to run every game out there at this resolution at high or max settings.

3) Both Asus and hiS are good choices, I don't have any personal preference

4) 750W sounds about right if you are planning to crossfire, 500W if not.

5) I don't know much about the silver arrow, but I heard good things about Noctua. I really can't say much about CPU coolers.
July 27, 2012 7:03:32 PM

For a cooler get Cooler Master Hyper 212+ or evo.

Everything else looks good.
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July 27, 2012 7:30:14 PM

1) I'm considering replacing the monitor down the road for something bigger, Will i be fine with this setup in a 24'' or 27'' Asus on the latest games and maxxed out graphics? What about if i use 2 monitors? I'm currently using my laptop connected to my Hp LCD so i'm quite used to having 2 screens to work with, so that's something i'd like to look for later - Getting another monitor.

You should plan on using Eyefinity; it's a major technological feature that's the key reason to choose AMD over Nvidia. If you don't have any monitors, or you already have one, consider getting two or three of these to use in eyefinity.

2) Is this build solid to run another 7850 in Crossfire or will the rest of the build slow the GPU's down? I'm a cheap guy, so i will probably keep this for a couple years at least and buying a second GPU to Crossfire with is more likely then replacing it for a brand new FOTM graphic card :-)

The 7850 is an awesome card that's unlikely to be bottle-necked by the rest of your components. Even two 7850's in Crossfire should be fine with 8gb or RAM and a 3rd generation core i5.

3) I'm still not sure which 7850 brand to pick from, but so far, it ASUS for the noise vs performance reviews i've read around the web. HiS seems to be another nice one.

Sapphire.

4) PSU. It this too much for the build? Even considering the room for Crossfire down the road and possibily another HDD for extra storage? This PSU is quite expensive but i like the fact that it's modular (except for the mainboard cables).

For future proofing, get a 750w psu with a "Gold" rating. If you just need something to run a single card for now, get a 5~600w bronze rated psu and plan on replacing it within a year (get an extended warranty so you can return it; it's more reliable than selling it later)

5) CPU Cooler : noctua nh-d14 vs silver arrow

Maximum PC recommends the NZXT Havik 120, and so do I.
July 27, 2012 8:19:43 PM

You might consider a 1TB hard drive. Prices are decent and 500GB doesn't get you as much as it used to in terms of space. Just a thought.
July 28, 2012 1:40:53 PM

Thanks so much for the all your replies so far.

@ajwork, i've found this thread about the NZXT Havik 140 here on the forums:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/272251-11-nzxt-havi...

So why not the 140 over the 120? Seeing as neither of them are too large to fit in the low profile Ram im aiming for.

Also, any reason why you prefer Sapphire over Asus for the 7850 ?

@claptrap22 , thanks i'll really consider that. Infact i had been looking for the WD Caviar Black 1TB 7200Rpm 64Mb cache ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )
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