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July 27, 2012 6:39:23 PM

Hey guys, this is my first build and my first post on tomshardware.com. I am looking for a gaming rig nearing the $750 range.
For games I would like to run most new games on high such as, Skyrim, Battlefield 3, Guildwars 2 etc with 60fps
I am thinking about getting an i5 2500k cpu and overclocking.
What graphics card is best for the price and quality? GTX 560 or Amd Radeon 6870
Since i am thinking about overclocking the cpu what would be a suitable case for airflow and a good psu.
Any tips on the motherboard would be greatly appreciated.
I do not need an OS, I have a windows 7 64 bit OEM.



Thanks for your help,
Gavner

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July 27, 2012 7:04:58 PM

Here you go:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($117.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($164.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $729.78
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-27 15:04 EDT-0400)
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July 27, 2012 7:10:17 PM

Thanks for the quick response, g-unit1111, is the i5-3570k really that much of a difference between the 2500k? I'd also like my case to look aesthetically pleasing, would it make sense to go for the 2500k and use the extra money to get. How is this case? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is the airflow good enough?
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July 27, 2012 7:12:17 PM

this is almost the same setup as me as i just added my 6870 :D  i run bf3 on high with 50+ fps at 1920x1080.....

i5 3570K 3.4GHz - $189.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0388577

ASRock Z77 Pro3 1155 ATX - $60 with mobo purchase
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0387627

Corsair 8GB DDR3-1600 - $58 - a $15 MIR
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0347306

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 - $85
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0352164

Corsair Builder series 500 Watt - $63 - a $5 MIR
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0361422

NZXT Classic Series Source 210 - $38 - a $10 MIR
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0378074

Windows 7 64 bit - $100
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0361170

Samsung 22X DVD±RW Burner - $16
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0382892


that is my build exept the case i decided to get was this one and i am happy with it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i got this for around 600$ and then 125 $ monitor i am very happy :D 

btw: i had to wait for a graphics card which i just recently got: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 27, 2012 7:13:45 PM

Thanks for the quick response but the links are broken.


Spicy_benie said:
this is almost the same setup as me as i just added my 6870 :D  i run bf3 on high with 50+ fps at 1920x1080.....

i5 3570K 3.4GHz - $189.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0388577

ASRock Z77 Pro3 1155 ATX - $60 with mobo purchase
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0387627

Corsair 8GB DDR3-1600 - $58 - a $15 MIR
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0347306

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 - $85
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0352164

Corsair Builder series 500 Watt - $63 - a $5 MIR
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0361422

NZXT Classic Series Source 210 - $38 - a $10 MIR
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0378074

Windows 7 64 bit - $100
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0361170

Samsung 22X DVD±RW Burner - $16
http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0382892


that is my build exept the case i decided to get was this one and i am happy with it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i got this for around 600$ and then 125 $ monitor i am very happy :D 

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July 27, 2012 7:16:17 PM

sorry about that. it was from my thread post and i just copied and pasted :/  here is the thread, and this would only fit your budget if you didn't need a monitor. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/350513-31-help-build

my build is the selected best answer...

actually it would fit your budget even with the monitor because windows is included in the build
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a c 279 4 Gaming
July 27, 2012 7:18:51 PM

gavner said:
Thanks for the quick response, g-unit1111, is the i5-3570k really that much of a difference between the 2500k? I'd also like my case to look aesthetically pleasing, would it make sense to go for the 2500k and use the extra money to get. How is this case? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is the airflow good enough?


That case is decent. For the price this would be a better pick: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's a little bit more but it has front USB 3.0 among other things.

The 3570K has better onboard video and enables PCI Gen 3.
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July 27, 2012 7:20:58 PM

Well I'm redoing my room and I would like to have a case that looks awesome, one that lights up. Thanks for the answer though

g-unit1111 said:
That case is decent. For the price this would be a better pick: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's a little bit more but it has front USB 3.0 among other things.

The 3570K has better onboard video and enables PCI Gen 3.
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July 27, 2012 7:25:11 PM

gavner said:
Well I'm redoing my room and I would like to have a case that lights up. Thanks for the answer though


LEDs can be added to your case later. I understand it's pleasing to look at, but it's not going to help with performance. Put all the cash you can in the heart of the system (CPU and GPU), then worry about aesthetics later.
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July 27, 2012 7:26:35 PM

DeusAres said:
LEDs can be added to your case later. I understand it's pleasing to look at, but it's not going to help with performance. Put all the cash you can in the heart of the system (CPU and GPU), then worry about aesthetics later.


Well most likely im getting a 3570k and a amd 6870, so would the case really affect it that much?
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July 27, 2012 7:31:58 PM

gavner said:
Well most likely im getting a 3570k and a amd 6870, so would the case really affect it that much?


Not really, per se. But you can put a little extra cash to the 6870 and step it up to the hd 6950...

SAPPHIRE 11188-22-20G Radeon HD 6950 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 27, 2012 7:33:10 PM

DeusAres said:
Not really, per se. But you can put a little extra cash to the 6870 and step it up to the hd 6950...

SAPPHIRE 11188-22-20G Radeon HD 6950 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I think that put's me a little out of my price range, I already stepped it up from the 6850
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July 27, 2012 7:40:49 PM

I would go with the 2500k, especially since you can get it cheaper.

It overclocks better, as well.

You should also try and shoot for a 7850, if at all possible.
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July 27, 2012 7:43:21 PM

PCgamer81 said:
I would go with the 2500k, especially since you can get it cheaper.

It overclocks better, as well.

You should also try and shoot for a 7850, if at all possible.

As much as i want to upgrade my gpu, it just doesn't fit into my budget =(
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July 27, 2012 7:50:34 PM

gavner said:
Thanks for the quick response, g-unit1111, is the i5-3570k really that much of a difference between the 2500k? I'd also like my case to look aesthetically pleasing, would it make sense to go for the 2500k and use the extra money to get. How is this case? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is the airflow good enough?


Thats because we pretty much copy/paste the same stuff a dozen times a day :kaola: 
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July 27, 2012 7:52:26 PM

It may be possible if you went the AMD route as far as the CPU and mobo go. But I'm not sure if you'd be ok with that.
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July 27, 2012 7:53:31 PM

DarkOutlaw said:
Thats because we pretty much copy/paste the same stuff a dozen times a day :kaola: 

very ture :p 
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July 27, 2012 7:58:28 PM

DeusAres said:
It may be possible if you went the AMD route as far as the CPU and mobo go. But I'm not sure if you'd be ok with that.


I keep hearing and reading that intel is far better then AMD cpu's, how do they compare?
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July 27, 2012 8:05:48 PM

as far as benchmarks go, the i5 2500k/3570k destroys amd. but as far as real world performance, im not so sure you'd even notice the difference...considering most games are more GPU intensive than CPU.
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July 27, 2012 8:06:16 PM

Yeah so then i'm most likely getting an intel
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July 27, 2012 8:13:45 PM

gavner said:
Yeah so then i'm most likely getting an intel

whatever you do don't let dem amd fanboys talk you into amd unless your going really low end, not saying deus is a fanboy just saying :p 
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July 27, 2012 8:19:39 PM

Spicy_benie said:
whatever you do don't let dem amd fanboys talk you into amd unless your going really low end, not saying deus is a fanboy just saying :p 


Then why bring it up? :p 
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July 27, 2012 8:32:50 PM

Yea i can't squeeze that, the reviews on the Smiladon were quite good, so im thinking about that
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July 27, 2012 8:36:50 PM

DeusAres said:
Then why bring it up? :p 


ehhh u brought up amd on 700$ rig..... amd should go on lets see here.... 300$ build? sounds about right lol :kaola: 
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July 27, 2012 8:43:38 PM

Spicy_benie said:
ehhh u brought up amd on 700$ rig..... amd should go on lets see here.... 300$ build? sounds about right lol :kaola: 


We're all entitled to our own opinions, aren't we?

Since I now noticed he mentioned skyrim, we won't be considering the amd option anyways. RPGs are typically more cpu intensive.

I still believe he'd get better real world performance from a $700 amd build than an intel build. Get an amd phenom x4 965 and a 7850/7870 and you're set. But considering he's set on intel, I'll just be perusing some case options.
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July 27, 2012 8:48:56 PM

DeusAres said:
We're all entitled to our own opinions, aren't we?

Since I now noticed he mentioned skyrim, we won't be considering the amd option anyways. RPGs are typically more cpu intensive.

I still believe he'd get better real world performance from a $700 amd build than an intel build. Get an amd phenom x4 965 and a 7850/7870 and you're set. But considering he's set on intel, I'll just be perusing some case options.


please tell me your kidding right? please do or im going to throw up, a i5 sandy bridge / ivy bridge beats any amd proccesor out there so please don't talk about what you don't know, and before this becomes a debate im this is going to be my last post about it end of story all done lol :p 
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a b 4 Gaming
July 27, 2012 8:59:54 PM

Cooler Master RC-431P-KWN2 Elite 431 Plus Mid Tower ATX Case
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ZCTJ9Q/?tag=pcpapi-20

COOLER MASTER Elite 430
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...(Computer%20Cases%20-%20ATX%20Form)-_-Cooler%20Master-_-11119227&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...(Computer%20Cases%20-%20ATX%20Form)-_-Cooler%20Master-_-11119196&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=

Zalman Z9 Plus
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57910&vpn=Z9%20Plus&ma...

Rosewill TU-155 II 500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...(Computer%20Cases%20-%20ATX%20Form)-_-Rosewill-_-11147117&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=

Here's a few recommendations. I'd also suggest you grab 1 or 2 extra case fans with matching LEDs. This will help with airflow and aesthetics.
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July 27, 2012 9:00:30 PM

Spicy_benie said:
please tell me your kidding right? please do or im going to throw up, a i5 sandy bridge / ivy bridge beats any amd proccesor out there so please don't talk about what you don't know, and before this becomes a debate im this is going to be my last post about it end of story all done lol :p 


Why start a debate you can't finish? umadbro? :lol: 

It's not about winning in a head on competition...it's about how they perform in the applications you're running. If the AMD route does around 50-60 fps in the games you're running, then why would you want to spend the extra money to gain maybe 10-20 fps? It's not going to be reasonably noticeable to the human eye.

Even if there is a 10-20 fps gap between 'em, this will only occur with CPU intensive games. I'm sure you can easily get 60fps in skyrim with an amd phenom and a hd 7850/7870. you won't get that with an i5 2500k and a hd 6870. You may get around 40-50 on ultra.
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July 27, 2012 9:21:33 PM

Here's a few benchmarks...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...

Take into consideration the amd phenom; this MAY (not saying it will) cause it to drop maybe 5-10 fps...you're still a little over 60fps

The hd 6870 isn't even listed in the benchmark I linked above...simply cause it's getting old and frail. You pair that with a 2500k/3570k and you'll still only get 40-50 fps. you can sort of "guesstimate".

Here's a very vague benchmark for the hd 6870. It says in the article it achieved around 40fps on average when paired with an intel cpu.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-gaming-pc-ove...
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July 27, 2012 9:24:19 PM

My point is and a ton of people will a agree with me on this forum is that intel is better then amd CPU wise above i5's so please stop fanboying saying that he should use a amd cpu to get better performance
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July 27, 2012 9:42:11 PM

I'm not "fanboying" anything. I'm giving valid points along with viable proof of my claims. If anything, it sounds like you're being the fanboy...with all this talk of "a ton of people will agree that i5's are better than AMD". Yes, they are more powerful. But that doesn't mean that is the optimal nor logical choice here for a $700 budget.

All you're doing is reiterating other people's ideas which doesn't necessarily apply here. How about support your argument rather than do this....

"Hurr, herpity derp...intel's better than AMD. Hurrr...you're an idiot because you think AMD is better than intel."
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July 27, 2012 9:44:37 PM

700$ is enough for a top of the line ivy bridge i5! UNLESS YOU ABSOULUTLY HAVE TO GO WITH AMD BECAUSE YOUR A FANBOY IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TOO!
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July 27, 2012 9:49:07 PM

show me gaming benchmarks where the i5 3570k/hd 6870 outperforms the phenom x4 965/hd 7870

Then I will consider your biased opinion.

If I was a fanboy, I wouldn't have bought the intel based laptop I'm using right now. Nor would I be planning on buying an intel based gaming build.

One more thing, typing/screaming in all caps isn't going to automatically make your point correct.
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July 27, 2012 9:51:32 PM

? sience when did i say that the 6870 is better then the 7870? wtf? i am talking about CPU's if you havent noticed.
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July 27, 2012 9:55:50 PM

Spicy_benie said:
? sience when did i say that the 6870 is better then the 7870? wtf? i am talking about CPU's if you havent noticed.


Well, I think you better look again. We're discussing a $700 budget build here and which would be the optimal build for playing the games the OP listed above.

If you replace the i5 with the phenom, the OP will be able to afford a more powerful GPU. Open that biased mind, and you'd probably understand. :p 
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July 27, 2012 10:00:22 PM

you know absolutly nothing at all. We have been talking about cpu's the hole time and then you think because your processor is cheaper you can put a better gpu in. CPU's are what we are talking about, an i5 3570k and 7870 will beat any amd cpu and 7870 all day long
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July 27, 2012 10:07:52 PM

Your point is moot. This is a $700 budget build. You won't be able to get an i5 ivy and a 7870 in there at that price point. Obviously the i5 and 7870 would be the superior choice, but the OP won't be able to do that...it's simple math really.

Just because you claim I know nothing, it doesn't degrade the fact my build would be the better option.

This guy ^ :lol: 
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July 27, 2012 10:09:25 PM

Ok guys, would you mind taking this war elsewhere, I just needed some advice
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July 27, 2012 10:11:01 PM

who in the hell said anyone needed power anywhere close to a 7870? you like making stuff up, you should be an artist because your very creative.
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July 27, 2012 10:11:54 PM

gavner said:
Ok guys, would you mind taking this war elsewhere, I just needed some advice

sorry just don't want someone to get horrific advice from a fanboy :/ 
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July 27, 2012 10:15:26 PM

gavner said:
Ok guys, would you mind taking this war elsewhere, I just needed some advice


Not a war, really. I've already provided all the information, benchmarks, and proof you'll need to realize the AMD build would be better in it's own right. You asked for advice, therefore I was providing it. Spicy is the one who decided to counter-argue my recommendation.

I've made my point. No need to deal with this senseless child any longer. His arguments are irrelevant and prove absolutely nothing.
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July 27, 2012 10:40:11 PM

Spicy_benie said:
who in the hell said anyone needed power anywhere close to a 7870? you like making stuff up, you should be an artist because your very creative.


It wouldn't be very sensible to get a rig that gives you only 40 fps (i5 3570k/hd 6870) in a game over one that will give you 60 fps (phenom x4 965/hd 7870), now would it?
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July 27, 2012 10:47:58 PM

gavner said:
Ok guys, would you mind taking this war elsewhere, I just needed some advice


My final build advice...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dc8z

Good luck!
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July 27, 2012 11:07:56 PM

Is not getting the I5 2500k and getting the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core and a better gpu the best bang for my buck?
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July 27, 2012 11:08:13 PM

DeusAres said:
My final build advice...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dc8z

Good luck!

^ +1

Very good CPU, great video card, and quality components throughout! This would be a great build for the OPs needs vs budget.
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July 27, 2012 11:17:04 PM

I'm sorry I should have clarified that my question, by no it is not you mean it's better to stick with the intel cpu?
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July 27, 2012 11:17:26 PM

gavner said:
Is not getting the I5 2500k and getting the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core and a better gpu the best bang for my buck?


Sacrificing the CPU a bit for the GPU would be a much better option. This will allow for better frames.

When do you plan on upgrading your build? If you're able to upgrade fairly soon, I'd say go for the intel build and sacrifice the GPU for now...then you can upgrade the GPU when you get the money. However, if you don't have that option, then the AMD build would be the best bang for the buck.
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