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July 28, 2012 12:24:08 PM

Hi,

I'm building a gaming/video editing PC, and I've arrived at these components:

Case: Antec Dark Fleet DF-85
CPU:Intel i7-3770k
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Formula Extreme
RAM: 2 (maybe 4 later) Geil Evo Corsa Series 8GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s): Asus GeForce GTX 680 DirectCU II TOP (I may add another of these later, in an SLI setup)
Hard Drives: 1x Samsung 830 SSD, 2x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB
PSU: Corsair AX 1200i
Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow
Mouse: Razer Abyssus
CD/DVD/Blu-ray drive: LG WH12LS39
Monitor: Benq XL2420TX

I'm wanting thoughts on this build, as to better components, etc. Also, will this PC be cool enough as it is with the fans in the case, or will I need to add more cooling to it?

Thanks.

P.S. I know it's excessive, but I need something that will last me for years and years, so I'm buying the best while I can.

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July 28, 2012 12:48:35 PM

overkill. you dont need ROG boards unless you overclock the crap out of the i7 3770k

this is what i would get. you can toss another 670 later on when you cant play games at ultra

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dfBW

the 670 is very close to the 680 so there isnt much point of spending the extra 100 dollars for 5% more performance. also, id buy this card later on as quite a few of them are having stability issues
July 28, 2012 12:57:44 PM

Case is a matter of taste. I'd look at the Cooler Master HAF series and Corsair cases.

The Blackwidow is a great keyboard, but the Abyssus is only a good mouse. I have one and a series of other Razer mice. Ultimately I switch to Mionix and have been much happier: http://www.mionix.net/index.php

I'm not a RAM expert, but I think 1600 is currently the sweet spot for ivy bridge.

Your whole system as described will draw between 300 and 400w. If you add another 680, you'll draw maybe 500. Headroom for oc'ing and you're still going to doing 600. Point is, you don't need 1200w psu unless you are watercooling and using 3-4 gpus. I'd recommend the Seasonic X-660 or X-860 since you are willing to pay for top of the line.

You don't list a cpu cooler. Even with the monitor, this system should fall well under $3000.
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July 28, 2012 1:01:49 PM

Well first off lets drop that PSU way overkill get a HX-750 or AX-750W instead that's even more than enough but not overkill also if your planing on OC the CPU then you need aftermarket heat sink i recommend any of these take your pick CPU Cooler:Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler - 140x140x25mm, i5, i7, 775, AM2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

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Phanteks PH-TC14PE Dual Heat Pipe CPU Cooler - Socket LGA 2011, 1155, 1366, 1156, 775, Socket AM2, AM2+, AM3, 1200 RPM, 19 dBA, 78.1 CMF, 140mm Dual Fans, UFB Bearing, Red
by Phanteks
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

CPU Cooler:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler:COOLER MASTER V6 GT RR-V6GT-22PK-R1 120mm DynaLoop CPU Cooler w/ Universal bracket & Dual Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


NZXT HAVIK CPU Cooler with Dual 140MM Fans - Silver/Black
https://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.amazon.com/NZ...


CPU Cooler:Noctua NH-U12P SE2 CPU Heat Sink With 2 Noctua Fans
http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U12P-Heat-Sink-With/dp/...

CPU Cooler:Thermaltake Frio Overclocking-Ready Intel Core i7 (six-core ready) & i5 Compatible Five 8mm Heatpipes Dual 120mm Fans Intel & AMD Universal CPU Cooler CLP0564
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
July 28, 2012 1:06:18 PM

the only problem i have with a blackwidow (non-ultimate) is that the keyboard frame gets all these fingerprints. not to mention that the blackwidow isnt all that great with build quality. im using the coolermaster quickfire rapid with blue keys and i love it (no numpad). if you need a num-pad, get the quickfire pro
July 28, 2012 1:09:16 PM

I like BigTroll's build, but I'd stick with the Blackwidow keyboard and the Samsung SSD. I have the Crucial M4, but the Samsung seems to beat it in most reviews and has come down in price recently.
July 28, 2012 1:11:02 PM

TheBigTroll said:
the only problem i have with a blackwidow (non-ultimate) is that the keyboard frame gets all these fingerprints. not to mention that the blackwidow isnt all that great with build quality. im using the coolermaster quickfire rapid with blue keys and i love it (no numpad). if you need a num-pad, get the quickfire pro


I've got two of the Blackwidows, but they're the ultimates. I certainly have had my problems with Razer build quality (Onza!), to the point that I avoid them now, but I love these keyboards.
July 28, 2012 1:12:45 PM

Dont get green drives. They are slower than proper 7200RPM drives and often cost more as well. Considering this is an editing build, storage performance is important. Configure it so that raw data/video is stored on one drive, and you render the video to the other, with the SSD to hold the OS and programs. This is so data isnt being read from and written to the same drive, which will slow things down a bit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

No need for a GTX680, a 670 will perform just as well with some overclocking and costs a lot less.

1200W is very overkill. For a dual card system, get 750W. This will give you plenty of room for overclocking and adding a reasonable number of drives.

Is this the RAM you have picked?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If so its Latency and Timings are too high. There is simply no reason to get anything above 9.

This kit will work faster and is low profile so you can get as big a CPU heat-sink as you want.
G.Skill Ares 16GB (4x4GB) 1600Mhz CL9 latency 1.5v. $89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You need aftermarket cooling on that CPU if you want to overclock. Heres the cheap option (that will still work quite well).
Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO. $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Expensive water cooling option. Some will say that the Noctua NH-D14 performs better and costs $20 or so less, but the thing is huge and looks horrible. This should still support big overclocks.
Corsair H100 water cooling loop. $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...





July 28, 2012 1:19:13 PM

Temile said:
I've got two of the Blackwidows, but they're the ultimates. I certainly have had my problems with Razer build quality (Onza!), to the point that I avoid them now, but I love these keyboards.


ultimates are built much better (tested both out at the store. they are very different). still, i like my cooler master since it was 59.99 when i bought it
July 28, 2012 1:30:02 PM

I'd go with TheBigTroll build except get whatever case you like ;)  but if you want to be stubborn your build is all compatible you really should at least change your PSU and ram and get a 670 instead of a 680
July 28, 2012 11:03:23 PM

Ok, so far I've changed m PSU to a Corsair HX750, but I want RAM that comes in 8GB modules, so that I can upgrade to 32GB in the future. I'll try to find a GTX 670 I like, an get that. I' also getting the steelseries 7g.
July 28, 2012 11:10:39 PM

you will never need 32gb of memory unless you are building a ramdisk or you are doing extreme video editing

the asus gtx670 top is the one to get.

you know that xfx xxx 750w is almost a clone of the hx750w (not quite) and it costs less
July 28, 2012 11:13:02 PM

You do realize 32GB is not going to be needed for gaming for DECADES, right?
July 28, 2012 11:21:06 PM

oh and take note of this: DDR3 will be replaced by DDR4 sometime in 2014-2015
July 28, 2012 11:50:15 PM

ngengerous said:
Ok, so far I've changed m PSU to a Corsair HX750, but I want RAM that comes in 8GB modules, so that I can upgrade to 32GB in the future. I'll try to find a GTX 670 I like, an get that. I' also getting the steelseries 7g.
Trust me you'll never need 32GB 16GB is overkill as it is but here you go these will match your mobo better since i take it your sticking with the ROG mobo the blue ram would just look funky IMO even though you wouldn't be looking at it all day still it would bother me :lol: 
RAM:Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 997055
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:CORSAIR Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M2A1600C10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GAR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 29, 2012 3:00:33 AM

Cool, I think I'll get the G.Skill Ares series RAM. I like the smaller form factor.
July 29, 2012 3:06:40 AM

Also, I don't intend to overclock, so I have no need for overclock-capable things specifically. I'm going with the Asus GTX 670 DirectCU II TOP instead of the 680, I don't need that much power. I put the $3000 in the title in case someone said 'Man, you're gonna need a massive $500 water cooling system!' or something like that. I know 32GB is overkill, but 7 years ago, if you had 4GB, it was seen as overkill, so I'm going with something I won't need to change for years.
July 29, 2012 3:45:11 AM

huh? What do you mean you don't intend to overclock then why get the ROG mobo?And if you don't plan to OC your CPU no point in getting that CPU you would want this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... saves you money to a "K" series is for overclocking you don't intend on doing that so why get it?
July 29, 2012 3:54:38 AM

I want it because it has all the features I want, and in case someday I have a rush of blood to the head and do end up overclocking, I can. I was told the i7-3770k was a good CPU for gaming/video editing and it has enough power for me.
July 29, 2012 5:22:38 AM

So you're basing this all on what you think you might do in the future? No need to predict what you might do. It doesn't work that way; it's either you do it now or the chance of doing it is less likely in the future.
July 29, 2012 7:03:40 AM

ngengerous said:
I want it because it has all the features I want, and in case someday I have a rush of blood to the head and do end up overclocking, I can. I was told the i7-3770k was a good CPU for gaming/video editing and it has enough power for me.
Well whoever told you that i7-377Ok was good for gaming/video editing should of explained to you your wasting $20.00 if you don't intend to overclock then i7-3770S would be better fit for your needs and the mobo is going to be taken for granted for your uses it's like your buying a lamborghini when a Honda Accord would have fit your uses better i just don't get it but it's your money so do as you please
July 29, 2012 7:04:38 AM

azeem40 said:
So you're basing this all on what you think you might do in the future? No need to predict what you might do. It doesn't work that way; it's either you do it now or the chance of doing it is less likely in the future.
+1 this is very true
July 29, 2012 8:03:38 AM

What I'm saying is, I'm only just getting into computers, and I'm sure in a couple of years, what is now a solid gaming PC, will be a mediocre one. THEN, when I'm more experienced and know what I'm doing, I'll probably try to eke out as much performance as I can. I won't be overclocking now, but I probably will in a couple of years.
July 29, 2012 8:06:52 AM

5 years is not "a couple of years". By then, this socket will be obsolete. In 2013, LGA 1155 is going to be left behind. In 2015, Skymont comes out.
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