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July 30, 2012 4:56:44 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: About a month or so
Budget Range: USD/$ 600-700
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, youtube, movies
Parts Not Required: Monitor
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com, Amazon.com, TigerDirect.com
Country of Origin: USA
Parts Preferences: I'm partial to AMD because of the price-performance ratio but willing to go with intel
Overclocking: Not really sure
SLI or Crossfire: No
Additional Comments: I'm new to building and basically I want to be able to run Dayz on normal settings or low without too much lag and to also be able to run RunescapeHD

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July 30, 2012 6:17:41 AM

If yo upgrade some of the parts from the link, you have a great basis for a 600-700 dollar PC . I would ditch the crappy PSU and get something Bronze or Silver certified at least. The CPU is good for a budget PC but you may wanna get a i3 540 for a little more as it is a lot better. (if you go with Intel you will have to get a different motherboard) The graphics card is good but you may wanna get something better (since gaming is your primary activity). I suggest either the GTX 550 Ti or the Radeon 6670. They both are amazing GPU's for the price and will run BF3 on Ultra with about 30-40 FPS.

Hope this helps :) 
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
July 30, 2012 9:14:38 AM

rjackowens said:
http://www.wethegamerz.com/2012/03/04/build-a-sweet-gam...

This looks like a great system for 500 bucks.

3 years ago it was a great PC for 500 bucks lol, although that Diablotech power supply was never a good deal. In all seriousness though, its actually not a bad find, but at that price I would pay the extra for the Phenom II 965, and think about trading in that 6850 for a 6870, but definitely ditch the power supply. Something like a Corsair CX500v2 at bare minimum.

$30 with mail in rebate and promo code (the latter ends Aug 1st)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Actually hard to find a competent power supply for under $45 bucks, so that works out pretty well.

Sapphire 6870
Little more umph for a little more money
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Phenom II 965- Better CPU, yes it works with that Gigabyte mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Although I disagree with that being a good motherboard for the price.
Asrock 970 more modern chipset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BTW is it just me or did all of the pictures in that link look warped and stretched out? Maybe its just my Noscript plugin blocking it?
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
July 30, 2012 9:15:06 AM

rjackowens said:
If yo upgrade some of the parts from the link, you have a great basis for a 600-700 dollar PC . I would ditch the crappy PSU and get something Bronze or Silver certified at least. The CPU is good for a budget PC but you may wanna get a i3 540 for a little more as it is a lot better. (if you go with Intel you will have to get a different motherboard) The graphics card is good but you may wanna get something better (since gaming is your primary activity). I suggest either the GTX 550 Ti or the Radeon 6670. They both are amazing GPU's for the price and will run BF3 on Ultra with about 30-40 FPS.

Hope this helps :) 



A first Core i3 in 2012? BF3 on ultra with a 6670? Not happening my friend. :sarcastic: 

I would rather eat randy said:
Approximate Purchase Date: About a month or so
Budget Range: USD/$ 600-700
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, youtube, movies
Parts Not Required: Monitor
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com, Amazon.com, TigerDirect.com
Country of Origin: USA
Parts Preferences: I'm partial to AMD because of the price-performance ratio but willing to go with intel
Overclocking: Not really sure
SLI or Crossfire: No
Additional Comments: I'm new to building and basically I want to be able to run Dayz on normal settings or low without too much lag and to also be able to run RunescapeHD



You still play Runescape? I gave up, can't take the bots no more. 10 year old level 138 acct, still miss it, but enough is enough for me.
July 30, 2012 10:14:25 AM

Below is my recommended configuration:

CPU: AMD FX-4100 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) AM3+ 95W Quad-Core | $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER X6 Elite | $42.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ | $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Low Profile | $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: VisionTek Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit | $219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache | $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec Three Hundred | $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W | $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard: Microsoft Keyboard 200 | $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse: Kensington Optical Mouse | $7.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $705.90
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
July 30, 2012 10:22:18 AM

Phenom II 965 > FX-4100. No I'm not kidding, no I'm not anti-AMD, but trust me on this. Forget the FX-4100. Its junk.

Also the CPU cooler you can get performance just as good out of a 212 Plus.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You'll max out a Phenom II overclock before a more aggressive cooler is necessary
July 30, 2012 11:11:16 AM

I wouldn't say that the 965 is better than the FX4100 or even the other way round. Both are great processors. :)  A FX4100 (3.6GHz) can be very easily overclocked to 4.2GHz (identical to FX4170) which beats or at least matches an overclocked 965. Note that 4170 tops the Toms Hardware gaming CPU hierarchy chart.

Even if you get the same performance, the benefit of going with the 4100 would be that you get a processor with latest architecture and which runs a lot cooler and consumes remarkably less power.

Some benchmarks:
FX4100 - 3967 [http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-4100+Qua...]
X4 965 - 4200 [http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X...]

FX4170 (overclocked 4100) - 4591 [http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-4170+Qua...]
X4 975 (overclocked 965) - 4433 [http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X...]

Regarding the CPU cooler, a 6 pipe would cool a lot better than a 4 pipe, IMO. Also the heat dissipation would require lower fan speed thereby resulting in less fan noise. A better cooler would make more room for overclocking when the processor is pushed to higher frequencies. Although he has mentioned that he is unsure about overclocking, I think that he would get interested once he gets acquainted with the system. :)  Also a cooler is a one time purchase that he can re-use for future upgrades. So spending on it is not a waste of money.
July 30, 2012 3:45:15 PM

nekulturny said:
A first Core i3 in 2012? BF3 on ultra with a 6670? Not happening my friend. :sarcastic: 




You still play Runescape? I gave up, can't take the bots no more. 10 year old level 138 acct, still miss it, but enough is enough for me.


Ya it will play BF3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuqe1vnvm7I
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
July 30, 2012 10:30:23 PM

rjackowens said:
Ya it will play BF3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuqe1vnvm7I

That guys playing Single Player Campaign in that video, hes not doing a huge Multilayer map in ultra with that rig. Single Player is like any other game, just with prettier graphics, multiplayer really ramps up the system usage.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
July 30, 2012 10:33:13 PM

dpp_sunny said:
I wouldn't say that the 965 is better than the FX4100 or even the other way round. Both are great processors. :)  A FX4100 (3.6GHz) can be very easily overclocked to 4.2GHz (identical to FX4170) which beats or at least matches an overclocked 965. Note that 4170 tops the Toms Hardware gaming CPU hierarchy chart.

Even if you get the same performance, the benefit of going with the 4100 would be that you get a processor with latest architecture and which runs a lot cooler and consumes remarkably less power.

Some benchmarks:
FX4100 - 3967 [http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-4100+Qua...]
X4 965 - 4200 [http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X...]

FX4170 (overclocked 4100) - 4591 [http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-4170+Qua...]
X4 975 (overclocked 965) - 4433 [http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X...]

Regarding the CPU cooler, a 6 pipe would cool a lot better than a 4 pipe, IMO. Also the heat dissipation would require lower fan speed thereby resulting in less fan noise. A better cooler would make more room for overclocking when the processor is pushed to higher frequencies. Although he has mentioned that he is unsure about overclocking, I think that he would get interested once he gets acquainted with the system. :)  Also a cooler is a one time purchase that he can re-use for future upgrades. So spending on it is not a waste of money.



Passmark is an absolutely worthless method of judging the value of CPUs. More modern architecture is not always better. Since both work on the AM3+ socket, its completely irrelevant anyway.

I know that the 4170 tops the Tom's Hardware chart, I also know Don Woligroski of Tom's Hardware was an idiot for putting it there.

I'm not trying to argue or debate it, unless the OP actually comes back and considers buying one. But I would suggest you research a little better before recommending those CPUs over Phenoms. Passmark practically makes up numbers, its that useless.

As far as the lower fan speed on the cooler, The 212 Evos, Plus and Hyper N520s all run very quiet, at full speed. The case fans in my NZXT Phantom are louder. I would recommend a 212 plus or evo for someone with a $2000 budget building an i7 build, its that good for the money.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
July 30, 2012 11:08:34 PM

Another note about Battlefield 3, if anyone hasn't buy it. Trust me, buy it for the multiplayer. If multiplayer isn't your thing, find another game to dump 60 bucks on.

The Single Player campaign is absolute trash, bad scripting (NPCs will bump you out of the way and knock you into the line of fire if you're standing where they're scripted to go- They'll tell you its safe to move at the wrong time, resulting in you getting your head blown off and frustrated), dismal plot, blatant COD ripoff, and not a good one either.
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