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June 8, 2012 3:43:31 AM

Right now I'm running my computer off the Cpu graphics, I want to get a GPU and i was thinking of getting one of the following but i do not know which one and if either or both would work with my PSU. Im trying to get the best bang for my buck and any input on everything would be great :D 

My GPU choices:

EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 015-P3-1480-KR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



My PSU is a:
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a c 143 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 3:46:54 AM

Best bang for buck is the GTX 480, but it has some disadvantages.
What's your monitor resolution?
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a c 106 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 3:53:25 AM

the 480 is the current if your buying it before the sale ends. after the sale ends, its not.


edit: your psu is fine. though if your not planning on adding alot of fans hard drives and such, 650w may be unnessesary and is usually targeted to users who crossfire/sli 2 mid range cards
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a c 143 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 3:54:22 AM

The same as my monitor.
GTX 480 consumes a lot of power, but it will be handled easily by your PSU. But it produces a lot of heat, according to all reviews it gets to 90C, some guy report it reaches 85C which doesn't make a difference for me, and the card is noisy while you crank up fan speed.

GTX 570 is the same as GTX 480 but consumes less power and runs a lot cooler than GTX 480 and less noisy but it costs %60 more.
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June 8, 2012 7:43:44 AM

I currently have a 128 Crucial m4 SSD and a 1tb Seagate Barricuda in my computer with a ASUS DVD drive and also a ASUS blu-ray player. i believe I'm going to try and get the 480 but I'm wondering if it will still work with my PSU?
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June 8, 2012 8:06:07 AM

Recon is the wink face mean something? :p  hahaha i guess my next question is i have a ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and i am wondering is it compatible with my MOBO since i read somewhere the person had problems getting it to work with the motherboard they had...

thanks
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a c 106 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 8:14:11 AM

psu is overnessesary, you shouldnt even have to worry about it. mobo is high end, it normally shouldnt have problems on the mobo end unless the pci slots are defective.
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June 8, 2012 11:39:02 AM

Okay sweet! I guess my one question would be what are some of the disadvantages of the 480?
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a c 143 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 11:48:51 AM

Any other card gets 70-75 in load if it is a reference design card, gets to 64-65 max if it's a non reference designed card. GTX 480 gets to 85-90C during load which is not cool.

GTX 480 consumes a lot of power compared to the current or the last generation of cards.
Power = more heat.
GTX 480 is noisy when the fans exceed 70%
If you're fine with this get the GTX 480.
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June 8, 2012 12:09:13 PM

If I don't go with the 480 then what would you recommend?


Also I have seen people talk about buying fans and such, are they talking extra fans for the gnu, CPU or the case?
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a c 143 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 12:18:14 PM

Depends on your budget, the same performer as GTX 480 is GTX 570 which costs $60 more, and the second alternative is HD 7850 which is about 5% slower than GTX 570 and also costs $60 more above your GTX 480 budget.

Many people can live with the heat the GTX 480 produces and set up custom fan profiles via MSI Afterburner, but it's doesn't sound good to me, and noise is audible in all case, that's my opinion.

Be noted that HD 7850 runs 30C cooler, and consumes less the power of GTX 480.
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June 8, 2012 1:10:21 PM

Okay well I guess I'm wondering how hot does the gtx 570ti get compared to the gtx 480. Also I am guessing how much power does it consume, also if I do go with the 560ti should I go with the 1gb ($235 before rebate) or the 2gb ($280 before rebate)?
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a c 143 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 1:18:44 PM

AMD HD 7850 surpasses GTX 560ti by a good margin, and it has 2 GB of VRAM, I wouldn't recommend getting a 1 GB card nowadays, as games are a lot demanding.
At load, GTX 560ti reaches 68C compared to the GTX 480 90C according to guru3d test and hardwarecauncks
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review...
At load the card draws 169W compared to GTX 480 249W
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review...
I recommend HD 7850 over GTX 560ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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June 8, 2012 1:29:29 PM

Okay but what if I wanna connect my computer to my 2 monitors with the HD 7850? Also you stated its 5% slower then the 560TI, now ur saying it surpasses it, I'm guessing by the temp?
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a c 143 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 1:35:09 PM

I said HD 7850 surpasses GTX 560ti and 5% slower than GTX 570, actually the chart shows 4% too.
look at the chart above for relative performance.

You can connect up to 3 monitors to HD 7850, but for gaming purposes you would need a second HD 7850 to crossfire to have good amount of FPS at higher resolution.

When you connect a second monitor to any card, temps increase by 10-15 C at idle or load, so I guess GTX 480 is not an option.
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June 8, 2012 1:47:51 PM

Not at this point haha, don't wanna mess with the high temps. I currently have the ivy i5 3570k CPU. So an amd gpu is still compatible? Also how does the 7850 connect to the PSU?

Also I guess I'm wondering if the hd 7850 is compatible with my motherboard
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a b U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 1:51:22 PM

Don't forget HD7850 OCs like a ....
-Bruce
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a c 143 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 2:04:00 PM

dragon7786 said:
Not at this point haha, don't wanna mess with the high temps. I currently have the ivy i5 3570k CPU. So an amd gpu is still compatible? Also how does the 7850 connect to the PSU?

Also I guess I'm wondering if the hd 7850 is compatible with my motherboard

When you get your PSU, there will be a PCIE 6 PIN power connector looks like this

You'll connect 2 of it to the card. That's it.
Yes everything is compatible.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 2:05:11 PM

dish_moose said:
Don't forget HD7850 OCs like a ....
-Bruce

Yes All the HD 7000 series have great overclocking capabilities.
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June 8, 2012 2:28:46 PM

What brand would you recommend for an HD 7850?

Also for the CPU on board graphics doesn't that use a PCIE 6 pin power connector to the Mobo? Thus I would need to disconnect it from the Mobo to place the 2nd one to the gpu?
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a c 143 U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 2:52:46 PM

That one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Noooo, that connector is not for the onboard graphics card, it's for the CPU and motherboard to function, it's called EPS12V, also supplied with your PSU.

Once you plug in the PCIE HD 7850, the onboard graphics is disabled.

EDIT: I don't know Whether the HD 7850 requires just one PCIE 6 PIN Power Connector or 2, so whatever you find in the card just plug it. But I guess it just requires one power connector not 2.
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a b U Graphics card
June 8, 2012 3:03:19 PM

ASUS' Direct CU has the best stock cooler.

Regardless of which 7850 you buy, grab ASUS' overclocking tool (works with any manufacturer) If yo uplan on oc'ing it. It has higher clock ceilings than most, and allows you to bump voltage.

40-50% overclocking capability is typical on this card, some are above 50.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18389...

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June 9, 2012 12:58:20 AM

Best answer selected by dragon7786.
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a c 106 U Graphics card
June 9, 2012 1:02:00 AM

ilysaml said:
That one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Noooo, that connector is not for the onboard graphics card, it's for the CPU and motherboard to function, it's called EPS12V, also supplied with your PSU.

Once you plug in the PCIE HD 7850, the onboard graphics is disabled.

EDIT: I don't know Whether the HD 7850 requires just one PCIE 6 PIN Power Connector or 2, so whatever you find in the card just plug it. But I guess it just requires one power connector not 2.

depends on model, i believe most models use 1, very limited ones use 2 i think
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a c 191 U Graphics card
June 9, 2012 1:14:07 AM

ilysaml said:
AMD HD 7850 surpasses GTX 560ti by a good margin, and it has 2 GB of VRAM, I wouldn't recommend getting a 1 GB card nowadays, as games are a lot demanding.
At load, GTX 560ti reaches 68C compared to the GTX 480 90C according to guru3d test and hardwarecauncks
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review...
At load the card draws 169W compared to GTX 480 249W
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review...
I recommend HD 7850 over GTX 560ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://media.bestofmicro.com/P/E/328802/original/Avg%20Game%20Perf.png


Ok this is a random question, but how do you get charts like that. Is there a quick way or would I have to dig and find th e chart? It would be helpful to know when making responses To threads?
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a c 106 U Graphics card
June 9, 2012 1:21:09 AM

Deemo13 said:
Ok this is a random question, but how do you get charts like that. Is there a quick way or would I have to dig and find th e chart? It would be helpful to know when making responses To threads?



google it, and apply some common knowlege if you are both knowlegable at the gpus and price points of both sides of the spectrum. shortcut from most of the talking is using anandtechs benchmarks.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
June 9, 2012 2:14:25 AM

I don't understand what you mean. But I copy the image url and put it in the imgae format for forums ""

Guru3d, techpowerup, tomshardware & hardwarecaunkcs are my top preferences but I believe the most in guru3d.
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