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December 12, 2012 9:41:28 PM

I play pretty much Alliance of Valiant Arms, CS:GO, and other free to play FPS and MMORPG. Will an I5-3570k be necessary or should I go with a i3 or even an AMD 6300 (heard about overheating issues) or AMD phenom II

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December 12, 2012 9:53:49 PM

A i3 should do just fine.
December 12, 2012 10:00:06 PM

what if I wanted to record, render and video edit, also photo edit and music production on ableton, should i3 be enough?
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December 12, 2012 10:04:23 PM

the i5 will help in multi-tasking and help out with rendering...
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December 12, 2012 10:04:23 PM

kuttaman said:
what if I wanted to record, render and video edit, also photo edit and music production on ableton, should i3 be enough?

That depends, some of those things (not recording and not really music) would use a i5. But how much of the time are you really going to use those kinda things?
December 12, 2012 10:20:17 PM

melikepie said:
That depends, some of those things (not recording and not really music) would use a i5. But how much of the time are you really going to use those kinda things?


on the weekends mostly, its not going to be a daily based thing for sure. My christmas vacation is coming up and Ill probably put out a couple of gaming montages in the next 3 weeks, say roughly 2-3hours of gaming recording, and than 2-4hrs of editing and rendering
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December 12, 2012 10:22:39 PM

Depending on how fast you need stuff to complete, you can do just about anything on an old C2D. Whether or not an i3 would be enough really depends on how ambitious, frequent and urgent the most compute-intensive stuff you do is to you.

On one hand, you can have a (semi)professional video editor who needs to render preview videos in (near-)realtime to work out effect details with a client while on the other hand, you can have an amateur editor not minding similar jobs taking a few minutes from edit to playback. The former would likely want an i7-3770, i7-3930k or Xeon E5 with a $1000 GPGPU card while the latter can make-do with whatever his patience can bear.

For audio, editing plain stereo doesn't take the same processing power as mixing 100 tracks with multiple effects on multiple channels.

So there is no universal answer to how much is enough. It depends heavily on how hard you want to push the software and how quickly you need results.
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December 12, 2012 10:22:58 PM

kuttaman said:
on the weekends mostly, its not going to be a daily based thing for sure. My christmas vacation is coming up and Ill probably put out a couple of gaming montages in the next 3 weeks, say roughly 2-3hours of gaming recording, and than 2-4hrs of editing and rendering

Then for the best performance go ahead and get a 3570k.
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December 12, 2012 10:23:23 PM

If doing those tasks simultaneously, then the i5 will help you out due to it being a quad core and better at multi-tasking.
December 12, 2012 10:33:26 PM

will the i5 3470 suffice for my needs, or should i stick to 3570k, have no forseable plans to OC btw. maybe later but I cant think of reasons right now.
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December 12, 2012 10:35:32 PM

kuttaman said:
will the i5 3470 suffice for my needs, or should i stick to 3570k, have no forseable plans to OC btw. maybe later but I cant think of reasons right now.

Well, for things like rendering OCing the CPU would really help.
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December 12, 2012 10:44:16 PM

For rendering AMD is a good budget option. If you dont feel like spending as much as the 3570k costs, the 6300 will be fine. Unless you overclock it, you dont have to worry about heat issues(unless your case has cables in a mess everywhere, and then the 3570k would overheat too).
The i3 will get the job done too, but it will be a bit slower in rendering and such, especially if you do it while playing games.
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December 12, 2012 10:49:09 PM

I hear the FX-8350 demolishes the 3570k in rendering...
December 12, 2012 10:53:38 PM

lol now I am even more confused, ugh what to do so many models so many numbers 3470, 2500k, 3550, 3570k, AMD, ............6300, 8350, Overlock or Not to overlock, Heating, cooling I feel like I am overheating lol.
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December 12, 2012 10:57:36 PM

kuttaman said:
lol now I am even more confused, ugh what to do so many models so many numbers 3470, 2500k, 3550, 3570k, AMD, ............6300, 8350, Overlock or Not to overlock, Heating, cooling I feel like I am overheating lol.

That's the point.
December 12, 2012 10:59:44 PM

the point is to make me RQ lol, building a PC is tough business
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December 12, 2012 11:13:06 PM

Well your kind of at a crossroad:

i5= Greater gaming performance
FX-8350= Greater rendering performance

Pick the processor based on what you will do MORE...
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December 12, 2012 11:14:35 PM

kuttaman said:
building a PC is tough business

Only when you have little to no idea what you actually need.

If you had an existing system on which you have already done everything you are concerned about and could say "I need something at least twice as fast as my current system X at doing Y and am willing to spend up to Z$", it becomes fairly simple.
December 12, 2012 11:33:39 PM

InvalidError said:
Only when you have little to no idea what you actually need.

If you had an existing system on which you have already done everything you are concerned about and could say "I need something at least twice as fast as my current system X at doing Y and am willing to spend up to Z$", it becomes fairly simple.


Its just the CPU that I am stuck at, I have everything else that I need. I just dont know whether I will OC in the future or not, if I am not going to OC than there is no point in buy the 3570 simply to play F2P games and edit them on vegas occasionaly (its not like I do it every week or anything), but then again if 2-3 years down the line, OC will keep me "current". Problem is, I am 21 (senior at Uni) planning on going to graduate school in the next 1-2 years, will I really be gaming by than? ofc I will, will i be gaming AND rendering videos and EDITIng, probably not.
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December 12, 2012 11:40:30 PM

If you're recording video while playing to create montages then a lower end CPU will reduce your performance significantly.
- Most of the applications (such as FRAPS) that record video don't like having their affinity locked to specific cores.
- AMD's 'reverse hyper-threading' will really suffer under such a workload, your bottom 3% or more of frames will stutter all over the place even if you ran a GeForce GTX690 or Radeon HD7970

December 12, 2012 11:47:01 PM

FK IT I'm just getting the fking 3550, FK OCING, FK IT TO ITS ABSOLUTE CORE
December 12, 2012 11:50:30 PM

For anything "games", go with Intel.

However, F2P games are often pretty low on system requirements, as the whole idea of F2P is to make the game as accessible to as many people as possible. As such, any quad-core AMD processor should be able to handle most F2P games without too much trouble.

I still recommend Intel over AMD in general for anything in regards to gaming.
December 12, 2012 11:54:10 PM

kuttaman said:
building a PC is tough business


Gee, is that why someone like me (who has an average IQ and zero experience) was able to throw one together in about 4 hours with nothing but youtube videos and websites as a guide?
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December 12, 2012 11:57:33 PM

PCgamer81 said:
Gee, is that why someone like me (who has an average IQ and zero experience) was able to throw one together in about 4 hours with nothing but youtube videos and websites as a guide?


We all learn at different rates my friend :lol: 
December 13, 2012 12:08:42 AM

socialfox said:
We all learn at different rates my friend :lol: 

True.

The hardest part for me was the god-awful wires :pfff:  .
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December 13, 2012 12:14:27 AM

PCgamer81 said:
True.

The hardest part for me was the god-awful wires :pfff:  .


Ahaha, I still remember my first custom built computer at the age of 15....had so much trouble with the front panel connectors....
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December 13, 2012 3:22:02 PM

socialfox said:
Ahaha, I still remember my first custom built computer at the age of 15....had so much trouble with the front panel connectors....

The first PC I built myself had a multi-IO card with over 30 jumpers on it to select IRQs and IO port ranges for each interface. Hours of fun when you lose the setup sheet.

While those were interesting days, I'd take messing with front panel connectors over having to go through jumper-based system setup again any day!
December 13, 2012 3:32:32 PM

kuttaman said:
what if I wanted to record, render and video edit, also photo edit and music production on ableton, should i3 be enough?


No
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December 13, 2012 6:14:22 PM

InvalidError said:
The first PC I built myself had a multi-IO card with over 30 jumpers on it to select IRQs and IO port ranges for each interface. Hours of fun when you lose the setup sheet.

While those were interesting days, I'd take messing with front panel connectors over having to go through jumper-based system setup again any day!


Ouch with that many jumpers you definitely needed the manual...though for me it didn't take too long but was frustrating, I kept thinking I broke something when it would not turn on... :lol: 
December 14, 2012 6:12:48 AM

Gawd, I know.

When it's all put together and don't turn on, a million different things go through your head.

Did I break something? Short something? If so, what? Is everything plugged in? Anything faulty? Help?

Fortunately for me, I had merely forgotten to flip the PSU switch :lol:  .
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December 14, 2012 10:40:52 AM

^ LMAO, after I installed my Closed water loop cooler (Which during installation, whenever I screwed one side of the pump, the other side would pop up, so I held the pump super hard with so much force I felt like I broke my board), after installation, everything looks secure and press the power button....nothing. Then I believe I broke the motherboard by flexing it too much when installing my closed loop watercooler. Of course, I realized it was the power supply switch that needed to be turned on...silly us :lol: 
December 14, 2012 5:50:56 PM

^ lol

So I'm not alone in dumbville!
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December 14, 2012 6:22:58 PM

PCgamer81 said:
^ lol

So I'm not alone in dumbville!


Ahah, your not alone...seems like whenever I'm stressed out I seem to make easy mistakes :lol: 

I haven't made that mistake again, you just gotta learn from mistakes...

Anyways I'm from foxville, located right under las vegas, its a fox paradise :D 
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