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I3 + 670 | good idea?

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July 30, 2012 4:34:03 PM

will it bottleneck it or not? heres the rest of my build atm

i3 2120
Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3
Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz
OCZ OCZ-CXS500W
OcUK GeForce GTX 670 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache
Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black

changes will be appreciated

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July 30, 2012 4:44:31 PM

think this is better,
Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K
Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3
Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATAIII
Corsair CMPSU-600CXV2UK
CiT Vantage Midi Mesh Gaming Case
Sapphire HD 7850
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

and its within my budget :D 
July 30, 2012 4:53:40 PM

any opinions ^
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July 30, 2012 4:55:27 PM

quad core is a better build.
July 30, 2012 5:02:56 PM

that was my second one, is it good for gaming?
July 30, 2012 5:12:55 PM

the budget is £620 not sure what it is in dollars
July 30, 2012 5:22:40 PM

yea..
Anonymous
July 30, 2012 5:26:06 PM

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July 30, 2012 5:31:42 PM

just4today, i have to save my budget at £615 because i already have a monitor and a dvi cable in my basket which puts it up to £740 maximum budget thats why, i guess but i can get a i5 2500k and a 7850 so thats my final build i think :) 
July 30, 2012 5:31:56 PM

yo can save money buying 1333mhz mem, unless you get a 3er gen intel to take advantage of 1600mhz ram's. And try a different cpu, a i5 quad @ 2,6 or 2,8 Ghz or more, but i don't know the price of them.. if you get an AMD, you should get a quad core, but but intel will work better for you if gaming is what you want
July 30, 2012 5:35:20 PM

I'd split the difference and go for a 2500k with a 7870 or (preferably) a 7950, though I'm not 100% sure what UK prices are like. (In the US, it's about $240 for a 7850, $400 for a 670, and $340 for a 7950, so you can use that extra $60 to go from the i3 to the i5.) For that matter, if you want a quad core chip, a cheaper i5-3450 would be totally fine and more future-proof than an i3, and probably cheaper than the 2500k (which requires aftermarket cooling to reach its full overclocked potential).

But if you have to pick, the i3+670 build will give you significantly better gaming performance today. It just means you'll have to upgrade more quickly later. Very few games use more than 2 cores; this is why Tom's has had such success in their budget builds pairing pentiums and core i3s with very powerful cards. The GPU is far more important for gaming performance, and even in CPU-heavy games, the i3 will be fine.
July 30, 2012 5:39:14 PM

so i3+670 or i5 3450+7870 ?
July 30, 2012 5:43:09 PM

deadbart said:
so i3+670 or i5 3450+7870 ?


I'm not sure there is a single right answer to that question. If you're not just doing gaming, the 3450 will blow away the i3 in other tasks. But for gaming alone, the 670's lead over the 7870 is much more important than the small gains of the 3450 over the i3. At the same time, although the i3 is cheaper, you might wind up wanting to upgrade sooner down the line.

edit: just so you have a sense, here's some benchmarks of the 7870 vs the 670 (though driver updates may have changed this a bit since they did the initial bench): http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=598

That won't vary too much in most settings between two intel CPUs capable of running at least 2 threads above 3.0GHz.
July 30, 2012 5:45:27 PM

6months i could upgrade another £300's worth if i got either build
July 30, 2012 5:47:58 PM

if i picked the i3 and 670, in 6 months time, i could get an i5 3570k and a £100 mobo
July 30, 2012 5:51:37 PM

sweet ;D
Anonymous
July 30, 2012 6:01:42 PM

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July 30, 2012 6:10:27 PM

yeah i have an os:p 

total basket =

EVGA GeF GTX 670 2GB GDDR5 Graphic Card £290
Intel i3-2120 Sandybridge £90
Acer V223HQVb 21.5 inch Widescreen LCD Monitor £85
Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 DDR3 XMS3 8GB Desktop Memory £35
CiT Vantage Midi Mesh Gaming Case £30
AsRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 Motherboard
Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2UK
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATAIII
Sony AD-7261S-0B 24x Internal DVDRWRAM SATA Black Lightscribe

tots up to £730 with all of the components to make my build :D 
Anonymous
July 30, 2012 6:19:32 PM

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July 30, 2012 6:23:46 PM

All TN Monitors are the same.
July 30, 2012 6:36:32 PM

verb when i upgrade to a i5 3570k in 6 months time i will get a 128gb ssd and a decent mobo ;) 
July 30, 2012 6:38:37 PM

the difference from a 64gb and 128gb are about 15 pounds, so better safe than sorry
July 30, 2012 6:39:05 PM

Not really. I see a huge difference when putting my games on the SSD. ZERO load times.
Anonymous
July 30, 2012 6:42:21 PM

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July 30, 2012 6:42:42 PM

thanks for all the help guys!
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July 30, 2012 6:45:27 PM

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July 30, 2012 7:06:13 PM

Quote:
Agreed. SSD is faster than HDD

the problem I ran into was Steam service. I have a couple games I launch from SSD, but all others including steam library is on HDD


I like to use SteamMover to overcome the "steam library" issue, you can use it to shuffle individual games in steam between your HDD and SSD. (You can do it manually via mklink /D as well).

Regarding the CPU+GPU combo. At 1080p you likely won't see a difference between the 7850 and the 670 for most games (for at least a few years, if not longer). In most games (save for BF3 and some strategy games) processor will rarely bottleneck, even if you only get the i3. In either case, it doesn't hurt to future proof, but you will probably find yourself happy no matter what arrangement you go for, as even an i3+7850 will be formidable in nearly everything. (That doesn't mean you should change up your build, simply don't sweat it, once it's done you'll be happy).
Anonymous
July 30, 2012 7:09:27 PM

OP have you made any changes? i.e. Mobo,ssd,etc.

Post final adjustments before paying just to be sure. At this point, you have several days of enquiring/research/questions - what`s couple more minutes


Welcome to it! and Enjoy!
Anonymous
July 30, 2012 7:16:01 PM

djscribbles said:
I like to use SteamMover to overcome the "steam library" issue, you can use it to shuffle individual games in steam between your HDD and SSD. (You can do it manually via mklink /D as well).


I`ve seen it, would have to revisit the work around. I allow steam to start with windows, store or library is always immediately available. Games launch quick enough for me right now.

Thanks for mentioning work around, I will check it out again.
July 30, 2012 7:49:28 PM

Asus P8H77-V LE
ATX Midi NZXT Source 210 PC Casing
Acer V223HQVb 21.5 inch Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black (VGA, 1920 x 1080, 20000:1, 5ms, 200 cd/m²) - Acer
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATAIII 6Gb/s 16MB Cache 3.5 inch Internal Hard Drive OEM - Western Digital
Intel i3-2120 Sandybridge Core i3 Dual-Core Processor ? 3.30GHz, 3MB Cache, Socket 1155, 3 Year Warranty, Retail Boxed - Intel
Corsair CMPSU-600CXV2UK Builder Series 600W Power Supply
EVGA GeF GTX 670 2GB GDDR5 Graphic Card
Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Two Module Kit
total: £750

in 6 months time i will be upgrading my CPU to an i5 of some sort, grabbing a ssd and a better mobo maybe
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July 30, 2012 8:03:18 PM

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July 30, 2012 8:13:43 PM

thanks :) 
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