$2000 System - Opinions on the Parts.

[Flizzelz]

Hello.

This is going to be my first computer build and I think I have got down the compatibility, and everything else. However, since this is my first build and I don't want to have to spend another $200 on something because I made a mistake, it would be nice if some people who really know what they are talking about gave me any advice/suggestions on the parts.

I am looking to potentially overclock my CPU. I want to stick with the Switch 810.

Final Builds: w/ Crucial M4 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dvl5 or w/ Mushkin Chronos Deluxe http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dvfL

Original Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cYHY
Updated Build 1: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/duGp
Updated Build 2: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/duXt

Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions!

I would like it to be a powerful gaming computer as you can probably tell if you have looked at the configuration.

 

[DarkOutlaw]

Be rid of the H100, and get a Hyper 212 Evo or Noctua Dh-14.
I dont think your motherboard is Triple Channel, so you should only buy 2 x 8GB of RAM. Edit: or 4 x4GB.

 

[TheBigTroll]

this is what i would get

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/duCq

 

[Flizzelz]

I was just going with 12GB because I felt like it. I can probably go down to 8GB, nothing over 12GB for now at least and I can buy more RAM when I feel like it is needed.

I am really not sure about the cooling, I heard that liquid cooling was easy to install and manage... I am currently looking at reviews and things for H100, and NF-D14.

Thanks.

 

[TheBigTroll]

triple channel memory doesnt work well. either you get 8gb or 16gb

liquid cooling isnt really worth it unless you are over 2 120mm rads. h100+ 2 nf-f12 fans rack you up 140 dollars while the d14 is 80 bucks

 

[TheBigTroll]

let's game (SLi capable):

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
$229 ($214)

MBD: ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131819
$199.99

HSF: COOLER MASTER Hyper Evo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
$34.99

RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 997043
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226295
$54.99

GPU: (SLi) EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787
$819.98

SSD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
$89.99

HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767
$74.99

DVD: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
$19.99

PSU: OCZ ZT Series 750W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Bronze
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341052
$89.99

CSE: Corsair Carbide Series 300R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011
$74.99 - $59.99 after mail-in rebate card

FAN: 2 x 140mm - XIGMATEK Cooling System XLF XLF-F1454 /
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233036
$17.98

SND: Logitech S-220 17 Watts 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121014
$29.99

KBD: Logitech G110 Black USB Wired LED Backlighting Gaming Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126087
$69.99

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992
$139.99

$1823.89

you do know that many people are having problems with the loud fan on the zt750w right?

 

[Flizzelz]

triple channel memory doesnt work well. either you get 8gb or 16gb

liquid cooling isnt really worth it unless you are over 2 120mm rads. h100+ 2 nf-f12 fans rack you up 140 dollars while the d14 is 80 bucks

I actually think I meant the D14 and not the F12. Forgot to proof read. I think I will just go with the D14 because it does seem like it can really cool your CPU down with the 6 inches of fans

 

[TheBigTroll]

just remember it will dwarf any atx board

 

[Flizzelz]

just remember it will dwarf any atx board

Ok I fixed the config so now it has a NH-D14 and 8GB of ram, and thanks for telling me that Triple Channels doesn't work well so I don't accidentally buy 4GB more of RAM

The D14 is going to fit thought right?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/duGp

EDIT: The H100 had number (90.2 I believe) and the D14 has (65.0), what is the difference with that number, does a lower number mean less cooling power?

 

[DarkOutlaw]

Ok I fixed the config so now it has a NH-D14 and 8GB of ram, and thanks for telling me that Triple Channels doesn't work well so I don't accidentally buy 4GB more of RAM

The D14 is going to fit thought right?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/duGp

EDIT: The H100 had number (90.2 I believe) and the D14 has (65.0), what is the difference with that number, does a lower number mean less cooling power?

Yes it will fit, although you will probably $#%$ a brick when you see it. The H100 is about...3c cooler than air cooling. You also run the risk of something breaking or worse leaking. If this happens your looking at hardware damage. If the DH-14 breaks...well...lets face it if the DH-14 breaks then you took a hammer to your computer, and you have many many many more issues than a broken computer...

 

[Flizzelz]

Yes it will fit, although you will probably $#%$ a brick when you see it. The H100 is about...3c cooler than air cooling. You also run the risk of something breaking or worse leaking. If this happens your looking at hardware damage. If the DH-14 breaks...well...lets face it if the DH-14 breaks then you took a hammer to your computer, and you have many many many more issues than a broken computer...

Yeah leaking would be really bad with liquid cooling and I definitely don't want that. But what do you mean when you say that if the DH-14 breaks I will be taking a hammer to my computer. You mean if it falls out of its place?

 

[TheBigTroll]

keep in mind that the h100 sounds like jet engines

they cool about the same. i bought a d14 since it was 40 bucks. the mounting is easy and pretty secure

 

[Flizzelz]

keep in mind that the h100 sounds like jet engines

they cool about the same. i bought a d14 since it was 40 bucks. the mounting is easy and pretty secure

Ok, now I feel confident about the D14's

And thanks for saving me $200

 

[TheBigTroll]

no problem.

 

[Flizzelz]

no problem.

So otherwise my computer is good to go?

 

[DarkOutlaw]

Yeah leaking would be really bad with liquid cooling and I definitely don't want that. But what do you mean when you say that if the DH-14 breaks I will be taking a hammer to my computer. You mean if it falls out of its place?

Not even. The DH-14 cant break unless you physically beat on it.

keep in mind that the h100 sounds like jet engines

they cool about the same. i bought a d14 since it was 40 bucks. the mounting is easy and pretty secure

Yes, the H100, DH14, and Hyper 212 Evo all cool at nearly the same temps. The only real difference in the DH14 and 212 is the price. Any of these coolers will get you the same overclock with identical temps across the board. It mostly comes down to personal preference. I personally wanted to pay $20 instead of alot more for a part that is of the same quality and do the same job. I used the extra money to get a ssd.

 

[DarkOutlaw]

So otherwise my computer is good to go?

Yessir, good luck!

 

[Flizzelz]

Not even. The DH-14 cant break unless you physically beat on it.



Yes, the H100, DH14, and Hyper 212 Evo all cool at nearly the same temps. The only real difference in the DH14 and 212 is the price. Any of these coolers will get you the same overclock with identical temps across the board. It mostly comes down to personal preference. I personally wanted to pay $20 instead of alot more for a part that is of the same quality and do the same job. I used the extra money to get a ssd.

Great thanks

 

[TheBigTroll]

lets see the specs once more to be sure

 

[Flizzelz]

lets see the specs once more to be sure

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/duGp

 

[TheBigTroll]

get what i suggested instead.

1: the 5 year warranty on wd drives isnt worth 100 dollars. a seagate 2tb is only 109.99
2: there isnt any advantage of 1866mhz memory. get regular 1600mhz ram like i suggested
3: there are cheaper crucial m4 256gb drives. the one i suggested is in my current rig and it is great
4: get asus 670s. better cooling (much better). you only need 1 for 1080p gaming
5:like i suggested, the xfx xxx 750w is cheaper and just as good

 

[Flizzelz]

get what i suggested instead.

1: the 5 year warranty on wd drives isnt worth 100 dollars. a seagate 2tb is only 109.99
2: there isnt any advantage of 1866mhz memory. get regular 1600mhz ram like i suggested
3: there are cheaper crucial m4 256gb drives. the one i suggested is in my current rig and it is great
4: get asus 670s. better cooling (much better). you only need 1 for 1080p gaming
5:like i suggested, the xfx xxx 750w is cheaper and just as good

1: Since the WD Drive is $169 I was looking at the Seagate 3TB drives and found this for the same price: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844 Thoughts?
2: Can do.
3:I think I will stick with the M4's. I am really bad at finding hard drives that are good/bad and a bunch of people recommend the M4s.
4: I think I am just going to stick with the EVGAs, they also come with a awesome program that always shows your temperatures, fps, etc in games.
5: Is 750W even enough for my PC? The EVGA website says that one GTX 670 requires a computer with at least a 500W power supply and I will be having two, as well as over clocking my CPU, etc.

EVGA: http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=02G-P4-2678-KR&family=GeForce%20600%20Series%20Family&sw
ASUS: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/GTX670DC2T2GD5/#specifications

 

[TheBigTroll]

the 670 draws around 180w at full load with a large overclock

 

[TheBigTroll]

750w is for the entire system + 2 gpus. its more than enough

do you really need that much storage? if you do, the 3tb is ok then

you can download the evga program for the asus cards. they all work. i dont know why you would pay evga for 10c higher temps

m4s are good all around but the chronos deluxe is rated higher than the m4 in tomshardware.com's SSD recomendations. plus the chronos deluxe is using toggle nand, the best stuff on the consumer market

 

[Flizzelz]

750w is for the entire system + 2 gpus. its more than enough

do you really need that much storage? if you do, the 3tb is ok then

you can download the evga program for the asus cards. they all work. i dont know why you would pay evga for 10c higher temps

m4s are good all around but the chronos deluxe is rated higher than the m4 in tomshardware.com's SSD recomendations. plus the chronos deluxe is using toggle nand, the best stuff on the consumer market

This is what I am going with: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dvl5

1: I am sticking with EVGA because I just like the sound of the all of the things they offer.
2: I didn't go with the XFX PSU because there weren't any modular options that I could see and I don't want my case to get filled with a bunch of unnecessary cables.

EDIT: I am not sure whether I want to go with the Mushkin or the Crucial I will make my decision when the time comes to buy.

Thanks for your help you are an amazing person