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July 31, 2012 2:43:06 PM

System is built mainly for online gaming such as Guild Wars 2. This is what I have so far, any suggestions would be appreciated.

CPU: i5-3550 (not going to overclock)
Motherboard: AsRock Z77 Pro4
GPU: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2Gb
RAM: G.SKill Ares Series 8Gb (2x 4Gb) DDR3-1600
PSU: Corsair 600W ATX12V
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500Gb 7200RPM
Case: Coolmaster HAF 912

Still need to buy a monitor and OS too!!!

Thanx in advance!

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July 31, 2012 3:57:09 PM

Looks good, win7 64bit and 23-4" 1080P monitor would do it.
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July 31, 2012 5:34:38 PM

If it saves you any money, you can go for DDR3-1333. There isn't really any benefit to the faster RAM. (If it doesn't save you any money though, it probably won't hurt).

All in all, looks like a nice build; I'm sure you'll like it.
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July 31, 2012 5:49:10 PM

Corsair 600W looks very good, but make sure you get one from their HX Series, since they are all modular PSUs. In doing so you will be able to use the cable management feature of your Coolmaster HAF 912.

You also can get a semi-modular PSU like CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX550M 550W ATX12V http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Try getting an HDD with 64MB buffer.
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July 31, 2012 5:53:45 PM

Actually, Modular PSUs were made so you don't need to cable manage as much. Besides, cable managing is what makes Modular PSUs not needed much.
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July 31, 2012 6:04:30 PM

The HAF912 isn't the best cable management in the world either; there isn't enough space behind the mobo tray to run cables, so most everything is still out in the open. It's still a nice case, but the HAF922 is much better cable management.
There is plenty of room to stuff unused wires as well, so I wouldn't worry about modular/non-modular.
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July 31, 2012 10:53:31 PM

Thanx for all the suggestions.

I was told that my current mobo is built for overclocking which I do not intend to do. SInce I'm trying to save as much money as possible, would it be ok if I lower the mobo to something like Gigabyte GA-B75-D3H? Or any other suggestion for mobo for not overclocking?
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July 31, 2012 11:31:11 PM

Yes any board that is not P67 or Z68/77 is what you can go for.
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July 31, 2012 11:41:57 PM

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Why arent you interested in overclocking? just curious.... anyways, i cant belive no one asked whats your budget, what is it?


Always bad luck with tech stuff. Hate to mess around with things right out of the box. And overclocking will require more cooling gears? My budget is around $700-$800 not including mon and os.

Any specific suggestion for an alternate mobo?
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July 31, 2012 11:55:38 PM

phenom383 said:
System is built mainly for online gaming such as Guild Wars 2. This is what I have so far, any suggestions would be appreciated.

CPU: i5-3550 (not going to overclock)
Motherboard: AsRock Z77 Pro4
GPU: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2Gb
RAM: G.SKill Ares Series 8Gb (2x 4Gb) DDR3-1600
PSU: Corsair 600W ATX12V
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500Gb 7200RPM
Case: Coolmaster HAF 912

Still need to buy a monitor and OS too!!!

Thanx in advance!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99
ASRock B75 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $199.99 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53470

This psu is the non modular version of the Corsair 550TM. Both are manufactured by CWT.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99 FREE SHIPPING
LEPA B550-SA 550W SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/nvidia_geforce_gt... <----- GTX 660 2GB Review w/benchmarks (due out August 16th) $300

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003U4IROY/ref=pd_lpo_... $129.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Acer S211HL bd 21.5-Inch Widescreen Ultra-Slim LED Display - Black
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August 1, 2012 12:08:31 AM

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There is not such thing as "bad luck" only stupid people and i do not think you are stupid :D 
If done right, overclocking is the best thing you can do to your system, its free performance gain and you will only need to spend ~30$ in a cooler, buy this:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.55 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($217.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Antec 550W ATX12V Power Supply ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $787.41

Btw... i sent you a private message, read it

Do you have a link to any benchmarks in regards to the gain in FPS with an Ivy Bridge cpu? I know the 3570K cost more as does a Z77 board and after market cpu h/s vs a cpu like the 3470 and a B75 board. Money that could be spent on a vid card like that $300 GTX 660 ti 2GB I posted up above w/benchmarks.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme... <----- looking at these benchmarks it looks like over clocking with an Ivy Bridge seems hardly worth the extra cost in regards to gaming (FPS).
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August 1, 2012 12:22:38 AM

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August 1, 2012 12:26:54 AM

Those Shogun 2 benchmarks are fairly impressive, but the test is done with a GTX 590.

Games that will be impacted by a faster/stronger CPU are probably restricted to large battles in Total War and large maps in Civ V and Starcraft II... Hmmm bad English there but you get what I mean.

Most titles don't need it currently. All this is kind of speculative though because we don't know much about the OP or his plans:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...
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August 1, 2012 1:20:45 PM

First of all, thank you for all the suggestions guys. I'm definitely learning lots from you all.

jemm said:
Gigabyte GA-B75-D3H has PCI-E 2.0 support, while the AsRock Z77 Pro4 has PCI-E 3.0 support, which is better. Try getting a mobo with at least 1 PCI-E 3.0 like:

ASRock H77M LGA 1155 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


That mobo is micro-ATX? Will i need to change anything I've listed in my original build? Am I missing alot without the PCI-E 3.0 support?


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The GTX 660ti isnt even out yet....and of course, i am sure it will beat the 7950 but we are talkin about overclocking CPU's... not wich card is better.

Anyways... Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 +i5 3570k can be purchased for as little as 322$ and a i5 3550 + Asrock Z77 Pro 4= 327$

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Total: $322.85

CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($117.86 @ Newegg)
Total: $327.84


Wow...so getting the overclock cpu is actually cheaper? I'm not stupid, but I'm a computer noob. While I would love to have better performance through OC, but should problems occur, I will have no idea how to fix them.

I live in Hong Kong and there will be a computer fair in 2 weeks time (~around time of Nvidia 660?), so hopefully some of these will drop in price and I can squeeze in a gaming mouse and keyboard as well.

Oh yea...I heard Corsair's Vegeance RAM are better because G.Skills RAM have bad VCCSA voltage?

Also, is Antec HCG-620W a good PSU? Do I need the cable management version of it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What about the Builder Series of Corsair if i'm low on cash?
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August 1, 2012 2:53:23 PM

phenom383 said:
That mobo is micro-ATX? Will i need to change anything I've listed in my original build? Am I missing alot without the PCI-E 3.0 support


Yeah, you should get ATX mobo, sorry about that.
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August 1, 2012 10:54:08 PM

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*Not because you have an overclockable CPU means you will have to overclock it to 5.5Ghz+ ... a decent (4.3Ghz) overclock will be more than enough...at those clocks you will not damange your CPU and there a lot of guides on how to overclock it...and its very easy, just watch this vid: http://www.amazon.com/gp/mpd/permalink/m3IWPXTMDOMZJ6/r...


If I just overclock it to 4.3Ghz, will i still need to invest in a cpu cooler?
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August 1, 2012 11:46:57 PM

Will I need to buy any more fans to attach to the case if I buy that cooler?

That is if i'm going with a cheaper Coolmaster Hyper 212+?
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August 2, 2012 12:46:42 AM

Ok...thanx. Now I think only remains my PSU cause the Corsair HX650 is costing me quite a bit. Will these 2 PSU be good substitute? I know PSU I shouldn't go cheap on PSU as well, but really want to squeeze in a gaming mouse.


Antec HCG-620W a good PSU? Do I need the cable management version of it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What about the Builder Series of Corsair if i'm low on cash?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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August 2, 2012 1:11:06 AM

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Your links dont work, the HX series PSU's are a bit expensive...but this one will do the job: http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/superbiiz/antec-power-supply...


Oops...edited. Please take a look again if they're any good.

Wow...that's even cheaper in price. I'll definitely keep this as back up plan. Thanx.
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August 4, 2012 4:24:44 AM

Alright, after taking my budget into account, this will be my final build.

CPU: i5-3550 (not going to overclock)
Motherboard: ASRock H77-Pro4, (was: AsRock Z77 Pro4 )
GPU: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2Gb
RAM: G.SKill Ares Series 8Gb (2x 4Gb) DDR3-1600
PSU: ANTEC HCG520W 80+Bronze (was: Corsair 600W ATX12V)
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500Gb 7200RPM
Case: Coolmaster Elite 431+ (was: Coolmaster HAF 912 )

The money saved will allowed me to get a gaming mouse and possibly a Hpyer 212+.

Now, since I won't be overclocking, do I need to get the Hyper 212? And is 520W enough?

Any final suggestions would be appreciated, cause I'll be buying in a week's time.
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August 4, 2012 7:51:48 AM

The Seasonic version of that PSU is less usually, and since they make them for Antec anyway....

S12II 520
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But of course I can't say what your prices look like. The Antec Neo Eco 520 is a fine PSU as well and usually less... but may not look as good in a windowed case.

Yes it's plenty of power.

No, you don't need the cooler, but it is nice to have anyway as the stock cooler is difficult to install correctly, and prone to popping off as a result.
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