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July 31, 2012 8:32:00 PM

I have been looking around at computers with a £500 budget there is not a large variety of gaming computers which are good (in my opinion) I've had a burst of inspiration to self build a computer, even though I don't know anything. I've watched videos online and I seem to have a very vague idea on how to assemble one from scratch.

So I began...
I went to a site what you select parts and they assemble it for you. Put in what I thought was a exceptional computer and see what they quoted me. This is the rig:

Case - Cooler Master Elite 430
Memory - Corsair 8GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (2x4GB)
Motherboard - Asus P8H61-M LE/USB3 (Intel H61) - VGA
CPU - Intel i5 2550K - (4 x 3.4 GHZ) - Sandy Bridge
CPU Heatsink - Arctic Cooling Freezer 13
Graphics Card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti - 1 GB
Power Supply - Corsair 800W Gaming PSU

Hard Drive - 500 GB SATA-II HDD 7200 RPM 16MB
Optical Drive - Samsung 22x DVD Re-Writer/Reader /- RW- Black - (SATA)

They quoted me £670.57.
Then I looked around and manage to get all the parts for £478.40.
Close to a £200 saving.

Now here are my questions...
How hard would it be to put together? (I've got no experience)
Is it a good computer?
Have I missed anything out?

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July 31, 2012 8:39:30 PM

The 800 watt PSU is major overkill for your build. Something like 500 watts is much more appropriate, with maybe a 650 watt if you intend to upgrade. The Corsair brand of PSU's is very reliable, so stick with them.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This would be much better, but again, maybe a 650 watt for future upgrades.

As for the CPU you have two issues. The i5-2550K is identical to the i5-2500K, except that it has no integrated graphics and yet it is more expensive. Go with the i5-2500K for sure. The other issue is that the motherboard you have selected uses the H61 chipset, which doesn't allow overclocking. The only reason to get the i5-2500K instead of the i5-2400 is to overclock. So either get the i5-2400, or upgrade to a motherboard with a Z68, Z75, or Z77 chipset to fully flex the muscles of the i5-2500K.
July 31, 2012 8:41:42 PM

A few notes:

1) H61 for a motherboard is...meh, bump it up to a Z68.
2) Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo heatsink fan cools better and costs less than the AC freezer.
3) That power supply is much too much, you could easily get by with a good 550W.
4) Right now, the 550 Ti is not a good choice, you can get better performance out of a 6850 or a 7770, though if you wait a few weeks for the 660Ti to come out, prices on the midrange GPUs will come down and you can probably find a deal on the 560Ti.

As far as difficulty, its really not that hard. I built my first 2 years ago with no experience and just followed the guide they have here, no problems.


edit - I agree with what clay says above.
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July 31, 2012 8:44:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok - Part 3

A tutorial on how to build a computer. This is all I needed to learn how to. It is very easy.

Also, that build is not optimal. First, you paired a non-overclockable MoBo to an overclockable CPU. Either get the i5 2500 with that H61 Mobo, or get the i5 2500k with a z68 MoBo. I suggest the Asrock z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3.

I would suggest the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler instead of the one you have.

You only need a 550W PSU. Something like the XFX Core Edition 550 or the Corsair TX550.

Your GPU is pretty weak for gaming. I would suggest getting at least the Radeon 6870 with the savings you muster. Here is a comparison of the two cards: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/540?vs=541 . Hope this helps
July 31, 2012 8:47:40 PM

claysm said:
The 800 watt PSU is major overkill for your build. Something like 500 watts is much more appropriate, with maybe a 650 watt if you intend to upgrade. The Corsair brand of PSU's is very reliable, so stick with them.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This would be much better, but again, maybe a 650 watt for future upgrades.

As for the CPU you have two issues. The i5-2550K is identical to the i5-2500K, except that it has no integrated graphics and yet it is more expensive. Go with the i5-2500K for sure. The other issue is that the motherboard you have selected uses the H61 chipset, which doesn't allow overclocking. The only reason to get the i5-2500K instead of the i5-2400 is to overclock. So either get the i5-2400, or upgrade to a motherboard with a Z68, Z75, or Z77 chipset to fully flex the muscles of the i5-2500K.


Dude, thanks for the advice so...

Case - Cooler Master Elite 430
Memory - Corsair 8GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (2x4GB)
Motherboard - Asus P8H61-M LE/USB3 (Intel H61) - VGA
CPU - Intel i5 2400 - (4 x 3.1GHz) - Sandy Bridge
CPU Heatsink - Arctic Cooling Freezer 13
Graphics Card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti - 1 GB
Power Supply - Corsair Builder Series CX500

Hard Drive - 500 GB SATA-II HDD 7200 RPM 16MB
Optical Drive - Samsung 22x DVD Re-Writer/Reader /- RW- Black - (SATA)

Is that good now? Would this be a good gaming computer?
July 31, 2012 8:59:10 PM

Yeah, but as some people have said, the 550 Ti isn't exactly a powerhouse. The most powerful card close to that range would be the Radeon 6790. If you can afford a little more, a Radeon 6870 or GTX 560 would both be a very nice upgrade over the 550 Ti. And as a couple of people have said, the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Evo would be a little better than the one you have chosen.
July 31, 2012 9:02:40 PM

Right I don't want to overclock, so do I need i5-2400 or the i5 2500?

Do I need to change the motherboard?

You say my GPU is weak but then reccomend a graphics card, did you mean the graphics card is bad?

So far,
Case - Cooler Master Elite 430
Memory - Corsair 8GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (2x4GB)
Motherboard - Asus P8H61-M LE/USB3 (Intel H61) - VGA
CPU - Intel i5 2400/2500?
CPU Heatsink - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Graphics Card - Radeon HD 6790 Graphics card - 1 GB
Power Supply - Corsair Builder Series CX500
July 31, 2012 9:10:41 PM

With the Intel processors, only the K processors are overclockable. So if you don't intend to overclock, get an i5-2400. I would recommend this combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That will give you the latest chipset (Z77), as well as a very nice processor.

As far as the GTX 550 Ti, there is nothing wrong with it. It's just not very powerful.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/541

A list ^ of games using a 550 Ti.

Your case, memory, and PSU are all fine, as are the HDD and optical drive choices.
July 31, 2012 9:23:34 PM

Thanks for all the help dude... this is what i'm finished with.

Case - Cooler Master Elite 430
Memory - Corsair 8GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (2x4GB)
Motherboard - Asus P8H61-M LE/USB3 (Intel H61) - VGA
CPU - Intel i5 2400 - (4 x 3.1GHz) - Sandy Bridge
CPU Heatsink - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Graphics Card - Radeon HD 6790 Graphics card - 1 GB
Power Supply - Corsair Builder Series CX500

Hard Drive - 500 GB SATA-II HDD 7200 RPM 16MB
Optical Drive - Samsung 22x DVD Re-Writer/Reader /- RW- Black - (SATA)

I priced at £490 good deal?
July 31, 2012 9:31:27 PM

Yeah, that's about as much power as you can get out of £500.
July 31, 2012 9:35:28 PM

Been looking online and that graphics card has really bad reviews...
July 31, 2012 9:39:19 PM

Would a RADEON HD 6870 Graphics card - 1 GB be better and work?
July 31, 2012 9:47:30 PM

Thank you man. Last time I will ask haha

Case - Cooler Master Elite 430
Memory - Corsair 8GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz
Motherboard - ASRock Z77 Pro3
CPU - Intel i5 2400
CPU Heatsink - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Graphics Card - Radeon HD 6790 Graphics Card - 1GB
Power Supply - Corsair Builder Series CX500

Okay?
July 31, 2012 9:57:04 PM

Yep, all looks good. :) 
August 1, 2012 10:23:47 AM

If you don't want to overclock, you don't need your CPU cooler. Just use the stock heatsink that comes with your CPU. That would be enough for your purposes.
August 1, 2012 6:30:19 PM
August 2, 2012 2:43:06 AM

Yep, looks solid.
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