7850 underpreforming

[sashu545]

My MSI 7850 OC 1001/1337 clocks has problems running games.
GTA 4 on max settings is around 22 fps.
Minecraft is around 90 (My old 6870 got over 200fps with 256 textures)
BF3 isn't always 60 fps.

I run the fans at 69 usually so I don't ahve problems in games with overheating.

PC:
i5 2500k @4.5GHz with Cooler Master Hyper 520 N
Asrock Extreme 3 Gen 3 Z68 Motherboard
Cosair 750w PSU
G Skill Ripjaws 8gb 1600 MHz (2 x 4gb) Ram
500gb 7200 RPM Seagate Hard Drive
Haf 922 Case

I am using 12.4 drivers for both ccc and the card.

Someone please help. I spent #260 on this card and it isn't preforming the way I think it should.

 

[fantastik250]

I will suspect it may possibly be the drivers. You can try using older drivers.

 

[blazorthon]

Update to Catalyst 12.6 and update the rest too. Don't go older before trying newer.

 

[vilenjan]

Yes I am suing 12.3 and dont have any (major) issues. I run in to periods of graphical lag sometimes which is only cured by a system restart, but its rare and outside of that my fps is great. I am hoping 12.6 release drivers fix most issues with 7 series cards.

P.S. 12.6 is in Beta atm, since he is trying to fix problems, a stable release is better than beta drivers.

 

[blazorthon]

12.6 beta is better than most of AMD's releases. It's worth at least giving a try. I'm using it and a I know several other people are and it works better on my 7850 than any other driver version did. More importantly, OP, why do you care if you're getting 90FPS instead of 200FPS? Unless you have a monitor that is greater than 60Hz, you won't even see more than 60FPS (you can go below one FPS per Hz, but not above). I can see being bothered by the performance in BF3 not staying above 60FPS consistently, but the Minecraft performance difference should not even be noticeable.

 

[A Bad Day]

It's a bit alarming when a older GPU that should've been much weaker is running in circles around the newer/stronger GPU.

 

[blazorthon]

@OP

Did you completely uninstall the previous drivers and such before putting the 7850 in the machine and installing drivers for it? Try booting into safe mode to do it and then install newer or older versions. Sometimes, that helps.

 

[sashu545]

Guys, his card is overheating, you may want to ask what sort of case he is using, and what temperatures......

Haf 922
I doubt it's overheating. 3 case fans and the card's 2 fans should keep it at a decent temp.

 

[sashu545]

@OP

Did you completely uninstall the previous drivers and such before putting the 7850 in the machine and installing drivers for it? Try booting into safe mode to do it and then install newer or older versions. Sometimes, that helps.

Yes I did.

 

[sashu545]

Update to Catalyst 12.6 and update the rest too. Don't go older before trying newer.

Link to 12.6 please.

 

[sashu545]

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst126beta.aspx

I wasn't able to install it in safe mode because of "Driver detection failed" so I installed it normal. Going to run it on a few games.

 

[sashu545]

With 12.6 beta
Minecraft: Sometimes normal. Average 120 fps. Random stuttering that makes it unplayable at times.
Batman Arkham City: On max settings, I get around 15 fps. Before I got 40fps.
GTA 4: will try in a few minutes

 

[sashu545]

GTA 4: Sometimes about 52fps. Usually 21fps when driving or in area with lots of cars and lights. (I need to do a fresh install. I have some old ENB mods that aren't fully deleted)

 

[randomhkkid]

Try to drop the clocks back to stock, your overclock may be unstable on the card, causing the problems.

 

[sashu545]

Try to drop the clocks back to stock, your overclock may be unstable on the card, causing the problems.

I'm trying that right now. Most people overclock the card to 1050/1450. Mine was less than that.

 

[randomhkkid]

Unfortunately not all cards are created equal, its just luck of the draw.

 

[sykozis]

Yes I am suing 12.3 and dont have any (major) issues. I run in to periods of graphical lag sometimes which is only cured by a system restart, but its rare and outside of that my fps is great. I am hoping 12.6 release drivers fix most issues with 7 series cards.

P.S. 12.6 is in Beta atm, since he is trying to fix problems, a stable release is better than beta drivers.

AMD is no longer doing monthly releases. They have moved to a release schedule similar to nVidia's of only releasing new drivers as issues are resolved or as needed for new game compatibility. Due to the changes in how AMD plans to release drivers, it's likely there will not be a WHQL release for 12.6 at all.

 

[sashu545]

If you had a peek at my Blazorthon thread, you will realise the hype is not as good as it may seem.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/356972-15-calling-blazorthon-discussion

So is my 1001/1337 safe or should I leave it at stock clocks?

 

[sashu545]

For anyone that wants to know temp.
Its 57 C underload
and 34 C normally

 

[sashu545]

Just do not exceed 1250mv.

Never even planned on going that high. I also assume you are talking about the core clock.

 

[sashu545]

I am talking about voltages. (1250 millivolts).

I haven't changed voltage at all. Should I for my overclock? What should I set it to?

 

[sashu545]

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/forum2.php?config=tomshardwareuk.inc&cat=15&post=356972&page=1&p=1&sondage=0&owntopic=1&trash=0&trash_post=0&print=0&numreponse=0&quote_only=0&new=0&nojs=0

As i said, stay under 1300mv, preferably 1250mv.

MSI afterburner doesn't let me adjust it for some reason. Any tips?

 

[blazorthon]

Try trixx or another such utility. Afterburner isn't nearly the greatest graphics overclocking utility out there.

 

[blazorthon]

Use MSI afterburner i also use this to oc my card

Unless you have a different version that has it, the OP's new problem is that Afterburner doesn't have much support for voltage increasing/decreasing, so Afterburner is not an option. It is decent for sticking with stock voltage, but Afterburner is far from the best.