AMD a10-5800k vs i3 3220 for gaming

[jonat1992]

I've searched for hours for the answer im looking for and i cant seem to find it anywhere.
I know the i3 is a better processor when only comparing processing power alone.
and i know the a10 is better for gaming if your only testing the setups with no dedicated gpu.

But my question is which one should i buy for a gaming build? I want to buy a cpu along with the radeon hd 6670 gpu which is the one that is built onto the a10 apu.

Which would yield better gaming performance right off the bat:

The i3 with a radeon hd 6670 or
the apu with a radeon hd 6670

Thank you in advance, knowledgeable community.

 

[djangoringo]

A pentium G850/G860 + 7770/7850 amd
That card 6670 is not recommended even for 720p gaming nowadays.

 

[jonat1992]

A pentium G850/G860 + 7770/7850 amd
That card 6670 is not recommended even for 720p gaming nowadays.

would this build outperform the 2 builds i've stated above, for gaming?

 

[djangoringo]

Yes.

 

[jonat1992]

thanks for that this is probably what ill end up geting then but im still curious as to which of the builds up top would perform better for gaming? the i3 build or the apu build

 

[djangoringo]

The apu will slightly be better, though, not good enough for gaming in my opinion, as like i stated you'll need a much better card.

 

[m4a1]

intel i3 3220 55w ivy bridge low power consumption cpu runs faster an cooler than a10-5800k 100w. i3 3220+hd 7770 play smoothly in high res like BF3 .

 

[8350rocks]

intel i3 3220 55w ivy bridge low power consumption cpu runs faster an cooler than a10-5800k 100w. i3 3220+hd 7770 play smoothly in high res like BF3 .

NO! The i3 is terrible for gaming...go with the FX6300 over the i3...it's WAY better for games like BF3 that use many cores...

 

[jaguarskx]

thanks for that this is probably what ill end up geting then but im still curious as to which of the builds up top would perform better for gaming? the i3 build or the apu build

Regarding your original idea...

The integrated Radeon HD 7660D can XFire or dual graphics with up to a Radeon HD 6670 for better performance (assuming the game can take advantage of XFire). The combined performance is probably around that of a Radeon HD 6750. Therefore, in most cases (assuming the game can take advantage of XFire) the A10-5800k will perform better.

However, installing a more powerful card (like the Radeon HD 7750) will automatically disable the iGPU. In that case if the game is not CPU intensive, then gaming performance should favor the Intel Core i3-3220. The following link provides benchmarks for the A10-5800k and i3-3220 at 1680 x 1050 resolution. The reason why lower resolution is used is because the review is concerned about the performance of the CPUs rather than the graphic cards. Increasing the resolution to 1920x1080 should decrease the difference in performance. If there is only a small difference, then the performance will be virtually identical. If there is a larger difference, then there should still be a noticeable difference. Naturally, lowering the resolution increases the performance gap.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-a10-5800k_7.html#sect0

 

[jaguarskx]

NO! The i3 is terrible for gaming...go with the FX6300 over the i3...it's WAY better for games like BF3 that use many cores...

BF3 does not represent all current and future games. There are many different game engines out there. If you are trying to give advice solely on one benchmark, then overall you are giving bad advice because it does not take into consideration anything else.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_6.html#sect0

As you know, it is the graphics subsystem that determines the performance of the entire platform equipped with pretty high-speed processors in the majority of contemporary games. Therefore, we select the most CPU-dependent games and take the fps readings twice. The first test run is performed without antialiasing and in far not the highest screen resolutions. These settings allow us to determine how well the processors can cope with the gaming loads in general and how the tested CPUs will behave in the nearest future, when new faster graphics card models will be widely available. The second pass is performed with more real-life settings – in FullHD resolution and maximum FSAA settings. In our opinion, these results are less interesting, but they demonstrate clearly the level of performance we can expect from contemporary processors today.

 

[8350rocks]

NO! The i3 is terrible for gaming...go with the FX6300 over the i3...it's WAY better for games like BF3 that use many cores...

BF3 does not represent all current and future games. There are many different game engines out there. If you are trying to give advice solely on one benchmark, then overall you are giving bad advice because it does not take into consideration anything else.

The OP later down asked specifically about BF3 and Crysis 3...my response was completely valid concerning those 2 games.

 

[jaguarskx]

NO! The i3 is terrible for gaming...go with the FX6300 over the i3...it's WAY better for games like BF3 that use many cores...

As for BF3 specifically, in single play campaign mode BF3 does not really care how many core there are in the CPU. Multi-player is different, but you did not specify that in your comment.

http://techreport.com/review/23750/amd-fx-8350-processor-reviewed/7

 

[8350rocks]

NO! The i3 is terrible for gaming...go with the FX6300 over the i3...it's WAY better for games like BF3 that use many cores...

As for BF3 specifically, in single play campaign mode BF3 does not really care how many core there are in the CPU. Multi-player is different, but you did not specify that in your comment.

Everyone who plays BF3 plays it for multiplayer...the SP campaign is about 10-15 hours of gameplay...tops! Next time I will be more specific for the sake of argument...but you knew what I meant.

 

[jaguarskx]

With regards to BF3 multi-player performance, a quad core CPU will perform better than a dual core CPU. Additionally, if I remember correctly, some NPCs are not rendered if a dual core CPU is detected. I recall seeing a multi-player performance chart, but I can't seem to find it.

Regarding Crysis 3, it definitely does benefit from a quad core CPU as shown in the chart below.

http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/36276-crysis-3-benchmark-gpu-cpu-performance-comparison/

In the end both the A10-5800k and i3-3220 have merit. Choosing which CPU depends on your gaming habits. The i3-3220 is arguably the better general gaming processor. It handles games limited to dual cores better than the A10-5800k (generally speaking), however, it does fall short in games that can use more than 2 cores. BF3 uses the Frostbite Engine and Crysis 3 uses CryEngine 3 so upcoming games that use those engines will very likely perform better with a quad core than a dual core CPU.

Overall, a quad core CPU is better for a "hardcore gamer". For casual and probably half of the average gamers a dual core CPU should suffice.

 

[m4a1]

i3 3220 vs a10-5800k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hps7TV4d0

 

[david cassar]

The i3 is the better cpu but as djangoringo said a pentium g850 and hd 7850 build will be better than both of them.

 

[logainofhades]

FX 6300 would be a better choice than an i3. A10 shouldn't be considered if using a dedicated GPU. Only real benefit is that you could still game at low settings should your GPU die.

 

[8350rocks]

FX 6300 would be a better choice than an i3. A10 shouldn't be considered if using a dedicated GPU. Only real benefit is that you could still game at low settings should your GPU die.

+1

 

[juanrga]

I've searched for hours for the answer im looking for and i cant seem to find it anywhere.
I know the i3 is a better processor when only comparing processing power alone.
and i know the a10 is better for gaming if your only testing the setups with no dedicated gpu.

But my question is which one should i buy for a gaming build? I want to buy a cpu along with the radeon hd 6670 gpu which is the one that is built onto the a10 apu.

Which would yield better gaming performance right off the bat:

The i3 with a radeon hd 6670 or
the apu with a radeon hd 6670

Thank you in advance, knowledgeable community.

According to the Gaming CPU Hierarchy Chart developed by Toms Hardware for CPU + discrete GPU, the i3 is one tier above the A10, which means that if you were the owner of an A10 and upgraded to a more costly i3 "you may not notice a worthwhile difference in game performance"

 

[mohit9206]

I recommend the OP to get the athlon 2 X4 quad core processor and a radeon 7750. this setup will outperform both i3+6670 as well as A10+6670. Not only that but it will also be more future proof than a pentium+7750 as pentium is dual core while athlon X4 is quad core

 

[Flightsimluke]

I recommend the OP to get the athlon 2 X4 quad core processor and a radeon 7750. this setup will outperform both i3+6670 as well as A10+6670. Not only that but it will also be more future proof than a pentium+7750 as pentium is dual core while athlon X4 is quad core

Lets not forget that the Athlon X4 is some years old now, and if you're going to recommend an Athlon X4 at the current time you may as well recommend a Phenom. Also, I double that its better than an i3 or A10 even with the bump to a HD7750. For what it's worth, minimums for gaming should be an i3+HD7750, or an FX-4300+HD7770.

 

[mohit9206]

I recommend the OP to get the athlon 2 X4 quad core processor and a radeon 7750. this setup will outperform both i3+6670 as well as A10+6670. Not only that but it will also be more future proof than a pentium+7750 as pentium is dual core while athlon X4 is quad core

Lets not forget that the Athlon X4 is some years old now, and if you're going to recommend an Athlon X4 at the current time you may as well recommend a Phenom. Also, I double that its better than an i3 or A10 even with the bump to a HD7750. For what it's worth, minimums for gaming should be an i3+HD7750, or an FX-4300+HD7770.

but i3+7770 would cost more than $250 while a cheaper phenomx4 or athlonx4+7750 will cost around $180.
also toms have changed their recommendation for budget cpu from pentium to athlon 2x4 .
So my suggestion to OP is Athlon/Phenom/A8 with 7750 rather than A10/i3 with 6670

 

[rmpumper]

The i3 is the better cpu but as djangoringo said a pentium g850 and hd 7850 build will be better than both of them.

No. The cheaper new IB G2020 is faster than G850. It is even faster than G860. And G2120 is better than any G800 series Pentium.

 

[david cassar]

The i3 is the better cpu but as djangoringo said a pentium g850 and hd 7850 build will be better than both of them.

No. The cheaper new IB G2020 is faster than G850. It is even faster than G860. And G2120 is better than any G800 series Pentium.

Ivy bridge is around 6 percent faster so between the g2020 and the g850 there isn't that big of a difference.