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Bottlenecking my gtx 670?

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December 15, 2012 9:32:03 PM

im about to buy parts for a new gaming computer and i was wondering if a gtx 670 will be bottlenecked by an i5-3570k processor. i'll be running games at 1900x1080

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December 15, 2012 9:37:34 PM

Hi :) 

Its a decent mid range card, it really depends on what you play but doubtful...but its the 670 that MAY be the bottleneck...

All the best Brett :) 
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December 15, 2012 9:40:14 PM

The i5-3570k is the perfect combination with that card.
Though, it's a high-end card not mid-range.
Mid-range : 660 gtx, 660 ti/7870, 7950 amd.
High-end : 670 gtx, 680 gtx/7970 amd.
Dual gpu : 690 gtx/7990
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December 15, 2012 9:40:44 PM

i mean, i know its quite a bit of a down grade from the top of the line gtx 690 with the gtx 680 in between, but is it really considered "mid ranged"?
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December 15, 2012 9:41:32 PM

oh nvm haha djangoringo beat me to it
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December 15, 2012 10:04:31 PM

akirb said:
i mean, i know its quite a bit of a down grade from the top of the line gtx 690 with the gtx 680 in between, but is it really considered "mid ranged"?



Hi :) 

I sell graphics cards in my shops...from £50 to £800

That card is £230 ...MID range at best....

All the best Brett :) 

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December 15, 2012 10:08:35 PM

That some good prices, cause i can't see any online store in the uk offering the 670 gtx less than 280£.
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December 15, 2012 10:18:07 PM

Brett, you don't base it just on price.

The 670 is the fourth-ish most powerful video card out there. That's not mid-range. It's the bottom of the high range. (Or you think the 680 is high range when the 670 isn't, in which case you're going to get laughed at.)

Yes, there are very expensive graphics cards... but they're either workstation cards or dual-gpu cards. If you buy two 670s, you have the performance of a 690. But that doesn't mean that the 690 is the only high end card, it means the 690 is a niche card.
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December 15, 2012 10:23:33 PM

Brett928S2 said:
Hi :) 

I sell graphics cards in my shops...from £50 to £800

That card is £230 ...MID range at best....

All the best Brett :) 


At best? Come on...

gtx670 is slower than 2 other single-GPU cards on the market: hd7970 and gtx680. It is NOT a mid-range card.

These are the tiers for current-gen game cards (in my opinion) --

High-end: gtx670, gtx680, hd7950, hd7970 (>$250)
Mid-range: gtx660, gtx660ti, hd7850, hd7870 (~$180-$250)
Entry-level: gtx650ti, hd7770 and anything lower (<$180)
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December 15, 2012 10:25:22 PM

Brett - carefull, that's some deal!! - you're beating scan and overclockers by a considerable margin (£275-461) ;) 

Nevertheless, a 670 is VERY close in performance to a 680 which, appart from dual cards (690 and 7990) can be considered practically high-end.
So, for the OP - the 670 would serve you very well.
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December 15, 2012 10:30:47 PM

hapkido said:
At best? Come on...

gtx670 is slower than 2 other single-GPU cards on the market: hd7970 and gtx680. It is NOT a mid-range card.

These are the tiers for current-gen game cards (in my opinion) --

High-end: gtx670, gtx680, hd7950, hd7970 (>$250)
Mid-range: gtx660, gtx660ti, hd7850, hd7870 (~$180-$250)
Entry-level: gtx650ti, hd7770 and anything lower (<$180)


Hi :) 

You forgot the top of the range 7990 ( I run one) and the 690...

This is all Imho... and I suppose i might be a little biased by how much profit i can make and obviously there is a lot more profit on a high end card than a low or mid range...

BUT... as we also build gamers machines ... if I was selling a 670... in the machine, I would sell the machine as mid range...

All the best Brett :) 
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December 15, 2012 10:35:59 PM

We fully understand you perspective - as a seller looking to maximise profit :)  but! our/tom's side of the fence is a little different.....the vast majority may have some difficulty - you might want to taper the 'seller perspective' in favour of the majority of forum members.
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December 15, 2012 10:37:38 PM

If to profit, a 7770 or 7870 + fx-8350 and call high-end gaming ring, nobody will profit by saying that it's a mid-end pc with a 670 gtx LOL
That's some poor marketing.
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December 15, 2012 10:45:58 PM

djangoringo said:
If to profit, a 7770 or 7870 + fx-8350 and call high-end gaming ring, nobody will profit by saying that it's a mid-end pc with a 670 gtx LOL
That's some poor marketing.



Hi :) 

No, lol...when I am selling a GAMING machine to someone with LOTS of money, do you REALLY think that when I say with so and so card in it , its MID range... you think they will buy it ???

No they say , well whats the top of the range card....and I sell them a machine with either a 690 or 7990 in it... for a lot more money, that's business... :) 

All the best Brett :) 
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December 15, 2012 11:02:29 PM

That's another niche, if possible of course it's better to sell the highest card or dual gpu.
But for the consumer who buys the card individually and it's well informed, he knows it's a high-end card, and that for gaming the 670 gtx is on the level with the 680 gtx, which is the top card single gpu.
In terms of performance, excluding costs of the cards, or marketing, as high-end card it has about the same fps as a 680 gtx or 7970, and there are versions who are better than the stock 680 gtx.
High-end purely in terms of performance.
690 gtx or 7990 is another story, then again i can bet that any guy who buys a 670 gtx has a motherboard with SLI, which by adding a second one tops the 690 gtx.
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December 16, 2012 12:54:10 AM

Brett928S2 said:

You forgot the top of the range 7990 ( I run one) and the 690...


No I didn't.

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gtx670 is slower than 2 other single-GPU cards on the market: hd7970 and gtx680.


7990 and 690 are cards for people who either like to waste money, don't know what they're doing, or somehow have a high-end rig with only one PCI-x16 slot. If they didn't have a huge premium I could see using one of the dual-GPU cards as part of a tri-GPU setup, but they're more expensive than equivalent two single card setups, so both models are basically worthless to anyone who knows what they're doing.

If you're building for clients I can see why you'd use them in builds, but they're not for regular, knowledgeable consumers.
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December 16, 2012 9:28:18 AM

And therein lies the problem......seller perspective vs the buying public (toms foum).
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