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AMD vs. Intel Processor Builds for Streaming Games

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August 1, 2012 11:13:30 PM

Hello everyone! These are my 2 builds (very similar, just CPU and Mobo changed) - I was looking for opinions, suggestions, and thoughts on whether either of these builds would be better for streaming games (such as Starcraft 2) and why. Thanks in advance! :D 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($35.09 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Vulcan Black MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G205HVbd 20.0" Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Ducky 1087xm (Black ALPS)
Total: $694.00
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-01 19:12 EDT-0400)

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CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.00 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($39.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($35.09 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Vulcan Black MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G205HVbd 20.0" Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Ducky 1087xm (Black ALPS)
Total: $658.00
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-01 19:10 EDT-0400)
August 1, 2012 11:32:00 PM

im saying go intel all the way
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August 1, 2012 11:39:27 PM

TheBigTroll said:
1: dont get a low resolution monitor like that one. stick with 1080p
2;i spent more money but it will perform much better

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dCqI


+1 for that parts list.

@ OP

The Radeon HD6870 is a very modest card, but I just don't find it sufficient for today's titles :lol:  I would personally want at least a Radeon HD7850...
August 1, 2012 11:45:31 PM

Spicy_benie said:
im saying go intel all the way

Any reason or just opinion?
August 1, 2012 11:46:47 PM

xCrux said:
Any reason or just opinion?


Intel CPU's perform faster than ANY CPU's AMD has to offer, so there's your reason :) 

Intel also kicks AMD's butt when it comes to gaming, the list goes on and on.
August 1, 2012 11:48:00 PM

mocchan said:
+1 for that parts list.

@ OP

The Radeon HD6870 is a very modest card, but I just don't find it sufficient for today's titles :lol:  I would personally want at least a Radeon HD7850...

I'm on a pretty tight budget, I forgot to mention. Keep in mind, Starcraft 2 isn't a super graphics-heavy game, I just wanted to know how well the build would stream. I'm not going to play and Crysis or BF3 or anything of the like. Borderlands 2 will be on my list of games to play, and I don't really mind toning the graphics down slightly.
August 1, 2012 11:48:24 PM

mocchan said:
Intel CPU's perform faster than ANY CPU's AMD has to offer, so there's your reason :) 

Intel also kicks AMD's butt when it comes to gaming, the list goes on and on.

How about in relation to my price range - $150 or lower?
August 1, 2012 11:49:14 PM

xCrux said:
I'm on a pretty tight budget, I forgot to mention. Keep in mind, Starcraft 2 isn't a super graphics-heavy game, I just wanted to know how well the build would stream. I'm not going to play and Crysis or BF3 or anything of the like. Borderlands 2 will be on my list of games to play, and I don't really mind toning the graphics down slightly.


In that case, the HD6870 will do just fine.

Do you have any plans of getting a 1920x1080 monitor? Or are you pretty much set with 1600x900? At 1080p, you'll have some trouble maxing out games, but as you said, toning down the graphics will make any game run butter smooth. At 1600x900, you can pretty much max anything out with a 6870.
August 1, 2012 11:50:02 PM

intel intel intel
August 1, 2012 11:51:31 PM

TheBigTroll said:
1: dont get a low resolution monitor like that one. stick with 1080p
2;i spent more money but it will perform much better

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dCqI

I would go with a 1080p monitor, but there aren't any of a small size. I'm tight on space on my desk (horizontally and vertically) so I want something even smaller, maybe 18"-19". Also, about the more money and more performance, that's kind of a given. :kaola: 
August 1, 2012 11:51:56 PM

oh ok then. you might want a board with a intel nic but they cost much more. standard nics can do the job just fine. just make sure that your internet speeds are good enough or else the nic does nothing

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dCxm
August 1, 2012 11:54:40 PM

TheBigTroll said:
oh ok then. you might want a board with a intel nic but they cost much more. standard nics can do the job just fine. just make sure that your internet speeds are good enough or else the nic does nothing

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dCxm

I ALSO forgot to mention I would be moving this around a lot, so anything compact is nice. That's why I'm getting the NZXT Black Vulcan (Handle included ;)  ). What is "Intel Nic"?
August 1, 2012 11:54:53 PM

xCrux said:
I ALSO forgot to mention I would be moving this around a lot, so anything compact is nice. That's why I'm getting the NZXT Black Vulcan (Handle included ;)  ). What is "Intel Nic"?


"Network Interface Controller" :)  basically a little chip that controls your internet :lol: 
August 1, 2012 11:55:19 PM

a 21.5inch is a tad bigger than a 20inch. you wouldnt notice
August 1, 2012 11:55:37 PM

Go for the AMD build. Yes Intel is faster but AMD does the job, pocket the cash saved.
August 1, 2012 11:56:46 PM

intel network interface card. found on higher end boards. have better speeds but is dependent on your network speed

as for the case, you could get a fractal core 1000 and it would be very very cheap
August 1, 2012 11:57:09 PM

Smeg45 said:
Go for the AMD build. Yes Intel is faster but AMD does the job, pocket the cash saved.

Or I could put the money into a better GPU ;) 
August 1, 2012 11:57:14 PM

Smeg45 said:
Go for the AMD build. Yes Intel is faster but AMD does the job, pocket the cash saved.


Generally I would agree, but considering the two builds are so similarly priced, there's no doubt for going Intel.
August 1, 2012 11:59:23 PM

mocchan said:
"Network Interface Controller" :)  basically a little chip that controls your internet :lol: 

Where might I find one of these? I'm assuming you bring it up because the 3450 does not contain one? Also, I have a Wireless Adapter picked out if need be - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
August 2, 2012 12:03:10 AM

xCrux said:
Where might I find one of these? I'm assuming you bring it up because the 3450 does not contain one? Also, I have a Wireless Adapter picked out if need be - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


The motherboard in the second list Troll posted has one built in :) 

Generally, wireless isn't the best way to go for the best internet connection, you would want a wired connection.
August 2, 2012 12:03:13 AM

you cant really find them unless you buy a board that comes with one. they can be found seperately but it isnt worth the cost. the speed honestly depends on the network speed and bandwidth

the wireless adaptor is fine but gigabit ethernet is faster
August 2, 2012 12:03:15 AM

TheBigTroll said:
intel network interface card. found on higher end boards. have better speeds but is dependent on your network speed

as for the case, you could get a fractal core 1000 and it would be very very cheap

Althought it's pretty small, it doesn't have much sense of portability. By the way, there is a Vulcan at my Walmart for $55, so I wouldn't mind spending the extra money for it. Also, it looks really pretty and I like the shape.
August 2, 2012 12:07:01 AM

If you don't mind an AMD build, I'd shoot for this...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $681.39
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-01 20:03 EDT-0400)

You get a more powerful GPU this way. The 7870 will outperform the hd 6870 easily. If you wish, you can then upgrade the CPU and the motherboard to a 3570k and z77 based board in the future. :) 
August 2, 2012 12:07:59 AM

mocchan said:
The motherboard in the second list Troll posted has one built in :) 

Generally, wireless isn't the best way to go for the best internet connection, you would want a wired connection.

As stated before, I would move this around a lot. I go to LAN's often and my house has one place that's Ethernet-accessible, and there's no room in it.
August 2, 2012 12:09:03 AM

DeusAres said:
If you don't mind an AMD build, I'd shoot for this...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $681.39
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-01 20:03 EDT-0400)

You get a more powerful GPU this way. The 7870 will outperform the hd 6870 easily. If you wish, you can then upgrade the CPU and the motherboard to a 3570k and z77 based board in the future. :) 


+1 Great parts list.
August 2, 2012 12:10:13 AM

DeusAres said:
If you don't mind an AMD build, I'd shoot for this...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $681.39
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-01 20:03 EDT-0400)

You get a more powerful GPU this way. The 7870 will outperform the hd 6870 easily. If you wish, you can then upgrade the CPU and the motherboard to a 3570k and z77 based board in the future. :) 


This is a pretty expensive build compared to mine. Keep in mind, streaming 720p is a must, so graphics aren't really a must. Good build though :) 

EDIT - Also, I mentioned before, pretty tight budget. Can't go to $830 (includes monitor + keyboard)
August 2, 2012 12:15:17 AM

xCrux said:
This is a pretty expensive build compared to mine. Keep in mind, streaming 720p is a must, so graphics aren't really a must. Good build though :) 

EDIT - Also, I mentioned before, pretty tight budget. Can't go to $830 (includes monitor + keyboard)


You can easily remedy the budget by dropping the GPU to a hd 7850. The 7850 would still be a stronger card in comparison to the hd 6870.
August 2, 2012 12:20:16 AM

DeusAres said:
You can easily remedy the budget by dropping the GPU to a hd 7850. The 7850 would still be a stronger card in comparison to the hd 6870.

How well could this stream my gameplay of games? That's the key part of these builds, as stated in the title. I don't need outperformance of the 6870 though, especially since I would most likely be using a 1600x900 monitor.
August 2, 2012 12:21:01 AM

TheBigTroll said:
you could pick up your vulcan then

i could change deusares's build though. add your case

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dCEg

Would this CPU be able to run and stream the game though?
August 2, 2012 12:22:30 AM

xCrux said:
Would this CPU be able to run and stream the game though?

That's a toughie...I personally own the 955 and OC'd it to 3.8Ghz, it can't stream some really demanding games such as BF3 or Dirt3.
August 2, 2012 12:22:54 AM

Streaming quality is more dependent on your internet connection. That CPU should handle the job.
August 2, 2012 12:24:41 AM

any modern CPU can do so fine espically the i5 3450
August 2, 2012 12:32:03 AM

DeusAres said:
Streaming quality is more dependent on your internet connection. That CPU should handle the job.

But it also relies on encoding the video and recording the screen while playing the game. I really don't know all that much about exact computer parts, but I feel I would need a pretty powerful CPU to stream.
August 2, 2012 12:34:55 AM

if you are encoding video, get the i5 3450. the onboard graphics can encode videos better than any video card out there
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