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August 2, 2012 3:54:55 AM

Hello every one, To start I want to thank every one that helped me with my original build and the builds those people offered. At the time I should of add a tad bit more info with the build to help.

First thing, both these builds have full size towers which I want to stay with, may need the extra room, plus I love the extra fans for air flow.
One build is Intel based and the other is AMD based or as close as possible given my limited experience building my own rig. My biggest thing is will either of these rigs run BF3 at max settings & all most no lag excluding internet connection. I am reconfiguring my budget range to $1000 - $1500 max.

AMD build - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dDBZ



CPU: AMD FX-6200 3.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($154.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($154.47 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($105.55 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($105.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 800W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer V223WEJbd 22.0" Monitor ($134.99 @ eCost)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($88.73 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM5200 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1167.21
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-01 23:49 EDT-0400)

Intel build - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dDsX


CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($105.90 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE208T 20.0" Monitor ($106.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($88.73 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM5200 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1445.39
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-01 23:51 EDT-0400)

All feedback is greatly appreciated. If you have any suggested changes to either of these builds please post the build name and then your suggested component change.
Thanks in Advance!
~Josh21

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August 2, 2012 4:00:51 AM

Its pretty close. I'm not sure how two 6770's would go up against a 670 and the i5 is definitely a better processor. They're both good enough to tackle anything you how at it and really it all just depends on how much you want to spend.
August 2, 2012 4:06:16 AM

GO intel! don't even hesitate its a much better build plus the 670 will dominate any game out on the market today and i5 3570k is the best gaming cpu out there
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August 2, 2012 4:09:50 AM

I'm a little confused here, so a 670 is better than 2 6770's? I thought the i5 was better too. Though if your right about 1 670 being better than 2 6770's then I am not at all happy with the 3 geek squad guys at bestbuy saying two 6770's would be way more than enough to play any game on the market. lol both are within my budget range, now it's trying to figure out which is better. I previously had a gaming computer with 1 6770 that played BF3 with no problems except that the computer is now going to a recycling plant due to it being fried from a power surge at my house >.<

~Josh21
August 2, 2012 4:14:21 AM

josh21 said:
I'm a little confused here, so a 670 is better than 2 6770's? I thought the i5 was better too. Though if your right about 1 670 being better than 2 6770's then I am not at all happy with the 3 geek squad guys at bestbuy saying two 6770's would be way more than enough to play any game on the market. lol both are within my budget range, now it's trying to figure out which is better. I previously had a gaming computer with 1 6770 that played BF3 with no problems except that the computer is now going to a recycling plant due to it being fried from a power surge at my house >.<

~Josh21


Geek Squad pretty much just tell you whatever they can that will influence you to buy more stuff. Don't listen to them.
August 2, 2012 4:14:33 AM

ok another thing with low end sli/crosfire cards you could have stuttering.. and a 6770? thats like low end.
August 2, 2012 4:15:46 AM

xTactical Llama said:
Geek Squad pretty much just tell you whatever they can that will influence you to buy more stuff. Don't listen to them.

true dat and please i beg you don't buy stuff from best buy please please
don't buy computer parts at least
August 2, 2012 4:40:12 AM

That's why I'm going to buy it in parts and put it together my self.

On a curious note. Anyone think that some components on the Intel build can be changed to lower the price a bit more? Since I'll be getting the parts from 4 different places I think the total after shipping will add up to more than I want to spend.
Like I said if I can run BF3 on max setting with really good frame rates then I'm happy.
August 2, 2012 6:18:41 AM

How cheaper do you want the build? I can come up with something if you give me a reduction amount. :) 
August 2, 2012 11:24:08 AM

Any where from $100-$200 off what it's at now. I tried and changed out the SSD & 500 GB Hard drive and put in it's place a 1TB hard drive, the only thing costing the most is the graphics card.


CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE208T 20.0" Monitor ($106.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($88.73 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM5200 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1357.49
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-02 07:22 EDT-0400)

August 2, 2012 11:34:22 AM

You could get a diffrent brand of PSU. Corsairs are fairly good, but are often a bit more than other's based on their name. Silverstone, XFX, Seasonic (though I suspect it will be worse in this case) are all PSU makers of equal quality to Corsair.
XFX Core edition Pro 750W $114
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Could change to the HAF-XM. Its technically a mid-tower, but compared to a HAF-X, its only a few inches smaller, so no big difference.
Coolermaster HAF-XM. $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
August 2, 2012 11:47:24 AM

The Intel/nVidia build will perform substantially better in gaming and everything else as well. If you really want to go AMD because of personal preference, at least switch the dual 6770s for a single 7000 series GPU.

And don't buy a 20' monitor for gaming. They are too small.
August 2, 2012 3:12:53 PM

For gaming monitors your gonna want 21.5 inch through 24 inch
August 2, 2012 3:13:49 PM

Make your your monitor is 1920x1080 other wise u won't need that much of a graphics card...
August 2, 2012 3:56:33 PM

imo i would get the third one its acer it has won costumer choice award x5 it has great reviews and is a good price btw i think 22/23 inches is like the prime size also
August 2, 2012 4:04:11 PM

Spicy_benie said:
imo i would get the third one its acer it has won costumer choice award x5 it has great reviews and is a good price btw i think 22/23 inches is like the prime size also


I'll go with the Asus (u meant Asus right? that's the third one lol). Forgot to add a DVD/CD drive. Although it went up in cost I should be good once I figure in all the shipping.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.68 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($111.71 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($88.73 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM5200 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1402.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-02 12:03 EDT-0400)
August 2, 2012 4:09:03 PM

yes i did. that is a great build you got there it will blow any game out of the treetops!
August 2, 2012 4:14:24 PM

josh21 said:
I'll go with the Asus (u meant Asus right? that's the third one lol). Forgot to add a DVD/CD drive. Although it went up in cost I should be good once I figure in all the shipping.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.68 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)


Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($111.71 @ Amazon)


Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($88.73 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM5200 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1402.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-02 12:03 EDT-0400)


Looks good except that the Corsair HX750 PSU you previously selected is much more power-efficient and reliable for a little bit more. For about $10 more at most, the Logitech MK120 Keyboard and mouse combo is better than the Gigabyte.
August 2, 2012 4:16:09 PM

Spicy_benie said:
yes i did. that is a great build you got there it will blow any game out of the treetops!


Thanks! I can't wait to get it. Only fun job now is to go to all the sites and order the parts.

Just curious but what happen to AMD? I thought a lot of there stuff was right up there with Intel.
August 2, 2012 4:23:41 PM

I'm not to sure if I'm going to order the mouse/keyboard just yet. I may look around in my area and see what I can get, save some money on shipping.

How good is the PSU I have now? It is a Modular which I like because of wire management. Going back to the Corsair HX750 w/modular adds another $50 onto it..I mean if the shipping doesn't go over my overall budget then I'm good, I don't know if the PSU being modular really effects the price or not and if it does I can excluded it since I should have plenty of room in my case
August 2, 2012 4:33:38 PM

its all personal preference i got a small case and not modular and my cables i just stuff by hard drives but ur case has lots of room on the other side of case to stuff wires. and also about amd vs. intel amd is mostly for budget builds, their cores i think aren't built the same as intels or as quality so intel knocks them away. anything above i5 2500k will beat any amd cpu unless super overclocked...
August 2, 2012 4:38:43 PM

I would like to thank everyone with advice and tips, especially *spicy_benie* : ).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.68 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($88.73 @ Amazon)
Total: $1415.17
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-02 12:37 EDT-0400)

Finished build, excluding keyboard/mouse, speakers, and any other accessories. Also final question, what's the smallest SSD I can get to boot my OS on and keep my 1TB drive for everything else.

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August 2, 2012 4:49:41 PM
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you could use this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or just pick up a 64 gb to put a couple games along with your os... and don't forget to pick a best answer to whoever helped the most
August 2, 2012 4:57:31 PM


AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz: $116
(with Samsung 22x DVD optical)

ASRock 990FX Extreme3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3: $128

Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866: $59
(1.5v 9-9-9-27)

XFX ATI Radeon HD7950 3GB DDR5: $330 before $20 rebate

Corsair TX750 Power Supply: $110 before $10 rebate
(with your case-no real need for modular)

That's $597 after rebates.

Acer G235HAbd 23'' 5ms 1920x1080 WideScreen: $140

Your other stuff: $350

Grand Total: $1,087.00

I smell a OCZ Vertex 3 120GB SSD for $80 after rebate [:lutfij:4]










August 2, 2012 4:58:51 PM

Best answer selected by josh21.
August 2, 2012 5:14:23 PM


Spicy_benie said:
its all personal preference i got a small case and not modular and my cables i just stuff by hard drives but ur case has lots of room on the other side of case to stuff wires. and also about amd vs. intel amd is mostly for budget builds, their cores i think aren't built the same as intels or as quality so intel knocks them away. anything above i5 2500k will beat any amd cpu unless super overclocked...


That's pretty much Intel Fanboy BS.

Intel makes greats processors, but in a gaming rig, it's the video card.

The GTX670 is a great card, too, but in 2 weeks when the 660ti hits the street it will lose 25% of it's value.

The HD7950 will clock beyond an HD7970 without missing a beat and when combined with the PhII965BE the OP will not notice a bit of difference in 90%+ of gaming and daily opperation.



August 2, 2012 5:21:14 PM

no. very incorrect intel is better for gaming . PERIOD. yes the gpu matters more but intel is a better cpu especially when you get a decent budget amd is for low end builders
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