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August 2, 2012 5:25:47 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Friday or Saturday of this week

Budget Range: 1400-1500 after rebates, shipping and such

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Programming, Screen recording and LIGHT video editing

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Everything Except the case

Do you need to buy OS: No, Microsoft Academic Alliance for the win

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: NCIX, Newegg or Tigerdirect

Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Parts Preferences: I'm building an intel ivy-bridge system

Overclocking: Yes, definitely moderate but probably heavy

SLI or Crossfire: Not at this time

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I already bought a Cooler Master HAF 942 case crazy on special from a local retailer so I kind of care about how the inside looks (since it has a big fancy window on the side). In order of most to least used I run:

World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2, Fraps, Visual Studio 2010, Sony Vegas 7

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:

I am currently on a garbage 5 year old system that barely can run GW2. Due to the fact that I have an internship and thus a bit of money to spend it's now or never (until I finish College) to upgrade. I want to be able to run GW2 on Ultra while recording in full mode at 30+ FPS.

Here are my pieces:

CPU : i5-3570k (Want to get it to the 4.2 - 4.5 GHZ range)

MoBo: Asus Sabertooth Z77 (was told this was the best for OC'ing)

RAM : Corsair Vengeance Cl9-9-9-24 1600MHz 8 GB (2x4GB) (Should I go for 16 GB? Really undecided on this.)

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 670

Cooling : Cooler Master 212 (The case seems to have a buttload of it's own cooling and the spot where my computer sits is very cold even in the summer.)

PSU: Corsair Professional HX750W 750W ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - OEM

SSD: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5IN SATA3 MCX Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD

DvD drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

Total price after shipping and rebates 1,366.30$ and I paid just under 150 for the case so total = 1,516.30

On this I get a 30$ NCIX gift certificate that I will use to purchase of Logitech G600 MMO gaming mouse.

Any advice will be accepted at this point, I'd like to take a moment to thank the amazing Tom's Hardware community. I've been lurking and tossing out ideas for months now (my first plan was a ridiculously overpriced build that would perform barely better than this one for 500$ more) and you've all been great!
August 2, 2012 5:29:21 PM

Solid build. Your still wildly overpaying for that Sabertooth board. You pay an extra $50 or so for the look of it. If that's what you want (considering you want to display it in the window) go for it, otherwise go with an Asrock Extreme6 or a Gigabyte UD5H. They both have the same features as the Sabertooth and cost $50 or so less.
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August 2, 2012 5:37:01 PM

Do they have the same overclockability? TBH I don't really care that much for looks that it's worth 50$ to me. It's nice, like I said, but not 50$ nice. I was taking the sabertooth because I read a topic on the motherboard section of Tom's claiming it was the king of overclocking and could not find any evidence to dispute that claim.
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August 2, 2012 5:37:32 PM

+1 solid build

All good choices.

Enjoy!
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August 2, 2012 6:10:03 PM

Cheers mate, anyone else like to voice their opinion? Still looking for solid benchmarks for/against the Sabertooth.
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August 2, 2012 6:14:06 PM

To get to 4.2 GHz, a Sabertooth is unneeded. Get an ASRock Z77 Extreme4 for $115 and pocket the difference.
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August 2, 2012 6:27:48 PM

Does the ASRock Z77 have SSD leads. HDD leads, USB 3.0 leaders and a PCI-E 3.0 port?
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August 2, 2012 6:29:54 PM

Yes. It has a few SATA III ports. HDD leads? That comes with the case. The connectors are on the motherboard if you meant that. PCIe 3.0 is built-in with 2 ports.
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August 2, 2012 6:35:54 PM

Hmm, that's really interesting as that's less than half the price.
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August 2, 2012 6:38:41 PM

Yeah, use the $ saved on a big dinner or something. :D 
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August 2, 2012 6:40:43 PM

=P Or a new headset, any suggestions?
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August 2, 2012 6:43:02 PM

The Z77 extreme is 190 on NCIX vs 250$ for the Sabertooth, hmm
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August 2, 2012 6:51:45 PM

consider getting a bluray reader instead of just dvd drive, maybe you will want to watch a br disk sometime inthe future.
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August 2, 2012 6:52:18 PM

you should buy from either canadacomputers or ncix.com there are CC stores in quebec from what i know

the only thing that i would change is the video card. ncix has a galaxy gx 670 (open air version) for 419.99 and 399.99 after MIR today only. or you could wait for ncix to roll out with their weekend sale.

you could also get a z77-v PRO board and you could save 40 bucks since it would more or less overclock the same

for the cooling, id get a noctua nh-d14. last week they were selling them for 49.99 and 39.99 if you buy a case. otherwise, a hyper 212 evo would be fine

for the memory, id get something like gskill ripjaws x since they fit better under heatsinks (unless the ram that you picked out is low profile)


@azeem40: i went to quebec and there is like 15% tax on everything. dinner was expensive

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August 2, 2012 6:57:27 PM

16GB Ram could make things smoother while hard editing/rendering videos, but for light video editing 8GB Ram should be enough.
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August 2, 2012 7:39:47 PM

The Galaxy gx 670 is better than the EVGA GTX 670?

But yeah the main reason I'm not buying today is the weekend sale gets released tomorrow, hoping to save even more moneysss.
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August 2, 2012 8:13:39 PM

Mini-bump for answers to the last question
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August 2, 2012 8:18:24 PM

Look up the specs, the Asrock z77 Extreme4 is definately something that can compete with it. It costs like $100 less which you could put somewhere else.

EVGA is very solid, and in my eyes the best.
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August 2, 2012 9:31:41 PM

DarkOutlaw said:
Look up the specs, the Asrock z77 Extreme4 is definately something that can compete with it. It costs like $100 less which you could put somewhere else.

EVGA is very solid, and in my eyes the best.


the extreme4 is overpriced in canada. they cost like 179.99 before a 40 dollar MIR (which is stupid since 40 dollars is barely a discount after you factor in tax). better off to get a pro board

evga isnt the greatest given other companies have their advantages such as the msi power edition cards having unlocked voltage and asus having about the best cooling solution. i look only for evga if they have a nice classified edition card
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August 2, 2012 9:34:28 PM

Ilnez said:
The Galaxy gx 670 is better than the EVGA GTX 670?

But yeah the main reason I'm not buying today is the weekend sale gets released tomorrow, hoping to save even more moneysss.


its better because of the cooling solution. galaxy also has a clone of the 670ftw that sells for cheaper at ncix
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August 2, 2012 9:40:47 PM

Asrock is flimsy rubbish. You want quality get an Asus board. Why do you think Asrock is so cheap?
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August 2, 2012 9:54:52 PM

TheBigTroll said:
the extreme4 is overpriced in canada. they cost like 179.99 before a 40 dollar MIR (which is stupid since 40 dollars is barely a discount after you factor in tax). better off to get a pro board


I dunno jump the border to a NICX? Still gotta be cheaper than the sabertooth?
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August 2, 2012 9:56:42 PM

yeah but for about the same price of a extreme4, you could get a z77x-ud5h or a z77-v PRO. MIRs dont really count as cash
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August 2, 2012 9:57:16 PM

Smeg45 said:
Asrock is flimsy rubbish. You want quality get an Asus board. Why do you think Asrock is so cheap?


Sure buddy...thats why it won tom's best of award? Do your homework before bashing a great product. You also will have shorter boot times, since Asus takes the cake for boot times. Oh...and imagine that...Asrock is/was a part of Asus...yeah...
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August 2, 2012 9:58:38 PM

DarkOutlaw said:
Sure buddy...thats why it won tom's best of award? Do your homework before bashing a great product. You also will have shorter boot times, since Asus takes the cake for boot times. Oh...and imagine that...Asrock is/was a part of Asus...yeah...


asrock was putting out garbage. ex their z68 series boards. a msi 4phase beat the asrock 8phase easily. just that i cant find that article. thats why its hard for me to suggest their boards since i still have no idea if they changed it or no
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August 2, 2012 10:00:33 PM

oh and the one toms reviewed was the extreme6 i think. that one is good
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August 2, 2012 11:22:21 PM

TheBigTroll said:
oh and the one toms reviewed was the extreme6 i think. that one is good


No, It was the Extreme4

Yes Asrock, like any new company, needed to go through there *** phase, but is now putting out some real quality boards. Look at Gskill, they sucked at first, and now they are right there with corsair. Mushkin is almost there too, just like OCZ and their SSD's. Times change.
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August 2, 2012 11:32:55 PM

DarkOutlaw said:
Sure buddy...thats why it won tom's best of award? Do your homework before bashing a great product. You also will have shorter boot times, since Asus takes the cake for boot times. Oh...and imagine that...Asrock is/was a part of Asus...yeah...


Does Tom's use a motherboard for a few months? Really use it? My first and last piece of asrubbish died after six months. Horribly lightweight too with no copper layers. I'll never buy them and never recommend them. If you want quality you buy Asus.
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August 2, 2012 11:53:13 PM

Smeg45 said:
Does Tom's use a motherboard for a few months? Really use it? My first and last piece of asrubbish died after six months. Horribly lightweight too with no copper layers. I'll never buy them and never recommend them. If you want quality you buy Asus.


Whatever dude...stop bashing productions you cannot comprehend. Start a new thread if you want.
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August 3, 2012 12:18:06 AM

Seriously you could nit pick every part on personal opinions of what's better. Keep your build dude it looks solid.
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August 3, 2012 12:54:36 AM

Smeg45 said:
Does Tom's use a motherboard for a few months? Really use it? My first and last piece of asrubbish died after six months. Horribly lightweight too with no copper layers. I'll never buy them and never recommend them. If you want quality you buy Asus.


you could technically say that to msi motherboards. they lacked gold content necessary to prevent oxidization in the past. pretty sure they changed it
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August 3, 2012 3:06:42 AM

DarkOutlaw said:
Whatever dude...stop bashing productions you cannot comprehend. Start a new thread if you want.


The only lack of comprehension is in your pathetic reply.
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August 3, 2012 3:30:35 PM

Does anyone have any MoBo Overclock Benchmarks? I'm really curious how the ASRock or the Z77x-ud5h match up against the Sabertooth in terms of overclockability.
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August 3, 2012 4:17:30 PM

therre is a max of .1ghz difference with standard overclocking which doesnt even make a difference in performance
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August 3, 2012 4:53:34 PM

Updated build that I'm thinking of going with, given your suggestions:

Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail

Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Z77DDR3 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366/1155/1156/2011 120MM
((Will this fit in my with the following RAM?)

Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B Vengeance Blue 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit

EVGA GeForce GTX 670 915MHZ 2048MB 6008MHZ GDDR5 SLI 2xDVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E DX11 Video Card

Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5IN SATA3 MCX Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - OEM

ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

Corsair Professional HX750W 750W ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan

((Figure 750W is more than enough for my OC'ing needs with only one GPU)
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August 3, 2012 5:17:24 PM

why not the xfx power supply?

vengeance ram doesnt fit under the hyper212 evo. might want to get gskill ares 2x4gb 1600mhz

same with the video card. get a asus gtx670. much better cooling
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August 3, 2012 5:35:42 PM

I'll go back to the other PSU found this one with the same voltage for 15$ cheaper. I will admit my PSU knowledge is very lacking.

I'll look into gskill ares RAM.

Also my GPU doesn't fit under the cooler? Is that what you mean? B/c the Asus GTX 670 is a bunch more expensive atm due mainly to it not being on sale. I could deal with paying the extra 40$ but it has to be worth it.
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August 3, 2012 6:29:27 PM

Man the cooling on that Asus card looks impressive, I think it might just be worth the extra money since I do plan to overclock it.
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August 3, 2012 6:48:42 PM

i knida meant the regular non-top edition asus gtx670. the top edition right now is having some bios problems but asus has fixed it on their new batch of cards coming out in the second half of august.i didnt say that the gpu didnt fit under the cooler. just the vengeance ram

the regular non-top edition is like 419.99

what psu did you pick this time? i did tell you that the xfx xxx 750w is the eqivalent of the hx750w right?
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August 3, 2012 7:02:53 PM

DarkOutlaw said:
Whatever dude...stop bashing productions you cannot comprehend. Start a new thread if you want.

He actually is somewhat right. HardOCP kept their ASRock boards for 6 months testing it and checking out ASRock's services. Wasn't a good end result.
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August 3, 2012 7:05:56 PM

PSU back to being the

Corsair Professional HX750W 750W ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply Active PFC 140mm Fan

Man those Ares' are expensive atm, worth it if the rest won't fit under my Cooler though
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August 3, 2012 7:08:56 PM

Also can't find the non Direct CUII on ncix, unless I'm missing something.
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August 3, 2012 7:09:09 PM

I just found the EVGA FTW model of the GTX 670 for 409.99 which seems like an obscene bagain. Is the Asus better than the GTX 670 FTW?
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August 3, 2012 7:09:44 PM

the ares are 44.99. pretty sure you got mixed up with the cl8 version

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August 3, 2012 7:10:59 PM

Ilnez said:
Also can't find the non Direct CUII on ncix, unless I'm missing something.


its the one with the 980mhz
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August 3, 2012 7:19:46 PM

Yeah, I see it. The EVGA FTW seems to be faster, at least on paper, is the cooling difference very significant? I do want to overclock it so cooling is very important to me.
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August 3, 2012 7:21:36 PM

Can you share a link to the Ares for 44$? I can only find the 16 GB (2x8GB which I want to avoid) for 109.99$. Thanks! =)
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August 3, 2012 8:25:32 PM

WTB NCIX sale coming out today...
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