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Hello,
I am new to this forum and i have been thinking for some time not to buy a new gaming pc as the laptop seems to be outdated gaming wise.After some research i narrowed my new configuration to this.

Motherboard ASRock P67 Pro3 rev. B3
Processor i5 i5-2500k 3.30GHz Socket 1155 box
Graphic card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2048MB DDR5 OC
Memory Exceleram 8GB Kit 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9
HDD HDD WD Scorpio Blue 320GB 5400RPM 8MB SATA 2.5
Case Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
PSU Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2

But i have some questions regarding this new build.

1.Is the motherboard good for overclocking ? (i am not a huge fan of Asrock but was reading a review on it and it looked very promising 4.5Ghz to 5Ghz OC on the i5 2500k)

2.Is the PSU strong enough for this build ?

3.The build has for the time no CPU cooler as i don't plan to OC the processor yet , due to lack of funds.But i was thinking for a Noctua NH-D14 cpu cooler/

What are your thoughts on this build ? Will it work great ? Should i change stuff around ?
I am mostly playing World of Warcraft , Diablo 3 , Starcraft 2 . Will i have max fps with all graphics at max with this build ?Will i be able to stream and fraps with high quality 720p 1080p ?

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nope

1: get a z77 board like a z77-v LK from asus
2: get ivy bridge i5 3570k. overclocking isnt necessary. and if you do, dont go above 4.5ghz
3:noctua is good when its on sale. otherwise, get a hyper 212 evo
4:never heard of that ram brand but i suggest gskill ares 2x4gb 1600mhz cl9 ram. 44.99 at newegg
5:scorpio drives are for laptops. get a drive like the seagate barracuda 1tb 64mb. they sell for 77.99 at ncix
6;a better case would be a antec 302. great build quality and tons of room in the back for cables
7:for the power supply, if you are going to SLI in the future, get a 750w such as the xfx 750w. if not, get something cheap like a pc power and cooling mk3 500w and it would be more than enough


if you are only playing these kinds of games, just get a asus 7850 and you will play all these games at max settings. the only reason you will be getting a 670 is to play bf3 or metro 2033 at max settings. the extra power of the 670 would be wasted in these games
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TheBigTroll said:
nope

1: get a z77 board like a z77-v LK from asus
2: get ivy bridge i5 3570k. overclocking isnt necessary. and if you do, dont go above 4.5ghz
3:noctua is good when its on sale. otherwise, get a hyper 212 evo
4:never heard of that ram brand but i suggest gskill ares 2x4gb 1600mhz cl9 ram. 44.99 at newegg
5:scorpio drives are for laptops. get a drive like the seagate barracuda 1tb 64mb. they sell for 77.99 at ncix
6;a better case would be a antec 302. great build quality and tons of room in the back for cables
7:for the power supply, if you are going to SLI in the future, get a 750w such as the xfx 750w. if not, get something cheap like a pc power and cooling mk3 500w and it would be more than enough


if you are only playing these kinds of games, just get a asus 7850 and you will play all these games at max settings. the only reason you will be getting a 670 is to play bf3 or metro 2033 at max settings. the extra power of the 670 would be wasted in these games


+1 on the GPU recommendation.

I believe the HD6870 would do perfectly fine for those games as well, however it's a little outdated so I would second the HD7850.

sunflash said:
Hello,
I am new to this forum and i have been thinking for some time not to buy a new gaming pc as the laptop seems to be outdated gaming wise.After some research i narrowed my new configuration to this.

Motherboard ASRock P67 Pro3 rev. B3
Processor i5 i5-2500k 3.30GHz Socket 1155 box
Graphic card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2048MB DDR5 OC
Memory Exceleram 8GB Kit 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9
HDD HDD WD Scorpio Blue 320GB 5400RPM 8MB SATA 2.5
Case Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
PSU Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2

But i have some questions regarding this new build.

1.Is the motherboard good for overclocking ? (i am not a huge fan of Asrock but was reading a review on it and it looked very promising 4.5Ghz to 5Ghz OC on the i5 2500k)

2.Is the PSU strong enough for this build ?

3.The build has for the time no CPU cooler as i don't plan to OC the processor yet , due to lack of funds.But i was thinking for a Noctua NH-D14 cpu cooler/

What are your thoughts on this build ? Will it work great ? Should i change stuff around ?
I am mostly playing World of Warcraft , Diablo 3 , Starcraft 2 . Will i have max fps with all graphics at max with this build ?Will i be able to stream and fraps with high quality 720p 1080p ?


1. Not really. If money is too tight for you to get the i5 3570k and a Z77 board, at least get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It's basically the Z68 version of the one you have, with a better chipset and better capabilities all around.

2. It is strong enough for what you've got, but if you are going to SLI or Crossfire in the future I'd go for a 750W. They're only a few dollars more expensive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3. Those are good, but a Hyper 212 EVO or 212+ are also good choices. The 212 EVO is $35, the Plus is $20. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Plus

I agree with the above that you don't need a 670 to max those games. I use a 560 Ti Superclocked ($240 or so) and play D3 on max settings. The ATI card recommended is a good option.
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the i5 3570k and a z77 board were my initial plans but i don't have the funds for them at the moment that's why i went with the asrock and i5 2500k
as for the SLI/Crossfire i don't have any plans to buy a 2nd card so is the psu strong enough then ?

TheBigTroll said:
you can always save money for the 3570k. doesnt really make much sense to get last gen hardware when the new stuff isnt too much more


yes i agree 100% with you , but i can't seem to fit everything that i would want in my budget , if only i didn't have to buy a new monitor all would have been perfect :( 
would this motherboard (msi z77a-g45) be better ?

sunflash said:
the i5 3570k and a z77 board were my initial plans but i don't have the funds for them at the moment that's why i went with the asrock and i5 2500k
as for the SLI/Crossfire i don't have any plans to buy a 2nd card so is the psu strong enough then ?


Yes, it's sufficient for what you have without worries.

sunflash said:
yes i agree 100% with you , but i can't seem to fit everything that i would want in my budget , if only i didn't have to buy a new monitor all would have been perfect :( 
would this motherboard (msi z77a-g45) be better ?


Yes, it's better, but unless you're planning to upgrade to an Ivy Bridge CPU then I'd probably save the $30 and buy the Asrock Z68 board I linked above. My reasoning is that if you use this PC for two or three years (which is reasonable, especially if you OC), then by the time you upgrade again you will be getting a CPU that won't be compatible with the Z77. You'll skip right over Ivy Bridge and into Haswell or whatever.
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sunflash said:
which Z77 from Asus or Gigabyte would you recomand ?


from gigabyte, id get a z77x-ud3h
from asus, id get a z77-v LK.

i dont really trust asrock but they do have the z77 extreme4

TheBigTroll said:
from gigabyte, id get a z77x-ud3h
from asus, id get a z77-v LK.

i dont really trust asrock but they do have the z77 extreme4


looking at those motherboards i am thinking of buying the asus one
are there any huge differences between those 3 from an OC point of view also i wonder if there are cheaper motherboards that offer the same performance with say no sli support and other random stuff i will probably never use
Gaming Authority

the LK is the cheapest one depending when you buy it.

you could check out the asus z77-v LE but it doesnt have SLi support. not to mention 2 slot spacing between cards which isnt as good as the 3 slot spacing for the LK board. 3 slot spacing just helps with crossfire/sli cooling

TheBigTroll said:
the LK is the cheapest one depending when you buy it.

you could check out the asus z77-v LE but it doesnt have SLi support. not to mention 2 slot spacing between cards which isnt as good as the 3 slot spacing for the LK board. 3 slot spacing just helps with crossfire/sli cooling


i see
i don't want a motherboard with sli or crossfire or any other many ports and stuff , all i want it to do is be really good for my future overclocking of the i5 3570k and to be cheap 100-150 USD or 80-120 euros

I know you didn't state this as an option, but I thought I would put it out there anyway. Since you want to use this computer for gaming, I highly suggest an SSD. It will save you tons of time on the game loading levels and maps. You can pick up a Crucial M4 120gb SSD for $100 on Newegg.com

bogo663 said:
I know you didn't state this as an option, but I thought I would put it out there anyway. Since you want to use this computer for gaming, I highly suggest an SSD. It will save you tons of time on the game loading levels and maps. You can pick up a Crucial M4 120gb SSD for $100 on Newegg.com


yes i know how good a SSD would be , but its not in my plan for now (SSD and cpu cooler) all i want now are the basics motherboard gpu cpu case psu.

I know what GPU i want but i am having trouble finding a good cheap motherboard to OC the i5 3570k in the future.

At this moment i am not sure which way to go in regards to the CPU , i5 3570k or i5 2500k they are almost the same price here but in i have no idea with which motherboard to go with for either of those processors :( 
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bogo663 said:
PSU should do you good if you are only doing CPU overclocking. If you plan to upgrade your GPU in the future, or if you set up a 2+ SLI, you might want to get at least an 800w PSU. The CPU cooler you chose will definitely be good for overclocking. If you want, you could also look at water cooling for even better cooling. I would suggest a Corsair h80.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


a hyper 212 evo would be more than enough for him. no point of the h80 there.

been looking at many youtube videos about overclocking the i5 3570k ....oau all those people have such expensive motherboards and cpu coolers and the max oc i saw was 4.4GHz .....think i got this OC stuff wrong then if i need a 250 USD+ motherboard to get i5 3570k to 4.4 GHz :( (
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you only need something like a gigabyte z77x-ud3h to hit 4.4ghz. the boards differ when you crank it beyond 4.6ghz which you shouldnt anyways. 4.4ghz is the highest id ever go
Gaming Authority

you dont need a sabertooth board to get good overclocks. a ud3h will be more than enough for you. only reason you would want one is that you like the looks or you are going well beyond 4.6ghz but that wouldnt be really achieveable using standard air cooling

TheBigTroll said:
you dont need a sabertooth board to get good overclocks. a ud3h will be more than enough for you. only reason you would want one is that you like the looks or you are going well beyond 4.6ghz but that wouldnt be really achieveable using standard air cooling


what do you mean with standard air cooling ? would a Noctua NH-D14 not be enough for more then 4.6Ghz ? i would need something like Corsair H100 ?
Gaming Authority

you dont even need that high of a overclock it the first place. a 4.2ghz is more than enough performance. after that you dont see large increases.

a noctua is good for 4.6ghz but it really depends on the chip that you have. every chip overclocks differently. in most cases, 4.6-4.7ghz is achieveable with a noctua. a h100 at full blast might get you 4.8ghz but i dont guarantee 24/7 stability. not to mention how loud the h100 at full blast is

TheBigTroll said:
you dont even need that high of a overclock it the first place. a 4.2ghz is more than enough performance. after that you dont see large increases.

a noctua is good for 4.6ghz but it really depends on the chip that you have. every chip overclocks differently. in most cases, 4.6-4.7ghz is achieveable with a noctua. a h100 at full blast might get you 4.8ghz but i dont guarantee 24/7 stability. not to mention how loud the h100 at full blast is


well i would like to hit 4.5 Ghz stable on the i5 3570k so what motherboard would i need for that ? ud3h or better ?
also can i get the i5 3570k to 4Ghz with stock cooling or should i not even bother with OC without a nonstock cooler ?
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if you are lucky, you can get 4ghz on a stock cooler since it doesnt require a voltage bump.

its not the motherboard that prevents you. its the chip itself. motherboards hardly make a difference unless you are going well beyond 4.6ghz. even then, its a difference of 100mhz.

therefore the gigabyte is fine. when people buy motherboards, they usually look for the features that they offer like usb ports and that sorta stuff
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