7750 vs 7770

[eebbaaelfneh]

Hi I'm planning to build a budget PC but am not sure on what Graphics card to get.



So far I have chosen:

AMD A10 5800K

Coolermaster hyper 212 evo

AsRock FM2A75v Pro-4

8GB Gskill sniper series 1866Mhz

Corsait 500w builders series PSU

500GB 7200rpm HDD



The graphics cards I have looked at are:



MSI 7770 HD- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-msi-radeon-hd-7770-4500mhz-gddr5-gpu-1000mhz-640-cores-1x-dp-1x-dvi-1x-hdmi

or



ASUS Radeon HD 7750- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-asus-radeon-hd-7750-4600mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-820mhz-512-cores-displayport-dual-link-dvi-i-hdmi



I assume the 7770 is better but is it worth paying the extra money if I want to play games like Planetside 2, Tribes:ascend and DOTA 2 on highish settings.



Thank you

 

[Flightsimluke]

The CPU you have chosen is an APU - it is a discrete GPU and CPU all in one. If you are getting a dedicated GPU you don't need to get that - Try this CPU/MOBO combo instead: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-fx-6100-black-edition-orochi-core-s-am3plus-33ghz-12mb-total-cache-ht-5200mt-s-95w-retail-15-cas + http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-970a-ds3-amd-970-s-am3plus-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-20-(x16)-atx .

Once you've done that you'll have a much faster CPU. In terms of GPU performance, the HD7770 is obviously the better GPU, but if you are on a budget the HD7750 + Suggested CPU+MOBO bundle will outperform the HD7770+APU. If you can stretch, obviously go for the 7770, but there isn't as much of a performance difference as some might think.

 

[djangoringo]

If to change the whole mobo thing and cpu, he'll better of with the x4 965 be instead of the fx-6100.
As for the topic, get the 7770 it's worth the extra pounds.

 

[eebbaaelfneh]

Thanks for the answers but unfourtunately my uncle has already ordered the mobo for Christmas so unless there is a better CPU with the same chipset it'll have to stay, see I was originally going to crossfire it with the 6670 but decided not to after it was pointed out that it was quite buggy and not always compatible

 

[eebbaaelfneh]

Although I think I might just use the APUs discrete graphics until I can afford a better GPU for around £110
I was thinking the 7850
What are your suggestions?

 

[socialfox]

HD 7850 is a great card, but if you were still clinging on to getting the HD 7770 and looking to save money then try this:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-asus-hd-6670-4000mhz-gddr5-gpu-810mhz-480-stream-processors-displayport-dvi-i-hdmi

Crossfire the integrated graphics with the discrete HD 6670 and you get the similar performance to the HD 7770.

 

[djangoringo]

In my opinion not worth it, the 6670 crossfire with the apu, even then it doesn't reach the levels of a 7770, it has poor driver support(crossfire) and micro-stuttering, most of the time you'll have single gpu and when it's supported it's gonna have lots of stuttering.
As for the 7850, i think it's even worth more than 7770 if you can spend the extra pounds, they're about ~125 pounds(1GB card) and comes with two games.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-radeon-hd-7850-core-edition-4800mhz-gddr5-gpu-860mhz-dl-dvi-i-2-xmini-dp

http://www.dabs.com/products/xfx-amd-radeon-7850-860mhz-1gb-pci-express-3-0-hdmi-core-edition-8DG6.html?utm_source=td&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_content=TB00?ReferrerID=tb&utm_source=td&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_content=TB00

 

[eebbaaelfneh]

Hmm I think I will wait until I can afford a 7850 or who knows I might find one really cheap in the boxing day sales.
Two more things a) is the XFX the best brand for the 7850 b) will the 550watt power supply be enough?

 

[djangoringo]

It's a good brand, it's a specific brand for amd cards, and yes your psu is enough for it.

 

[socialfox]

In my opinion not worth it, the 6670 crossfire with the apu, even then it doesn't reach the levels of a 7770, it has poor driver support(crossfire) and micro-stuttering, most of the time you'll have single gpu and when it's supported it's gonna have lots of stuttering.
As for the 7850, i think it's even worth more than 7770 if you can spend the extra pounds, they're about ~125 pounds(1GB card) and comes with two games.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-radeon-hd-7850-core-edition-4800mhz-gddr5-gpu-860mhz-dl-dvi-i-2-xmini-dp

http://www.dabs.com/products/xfx-amd-radeon-7850-860mhz-1gb-pci-express-3-0-hdmi-core-edition-8DG6.html?utm_source=td&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_content=TB00?ReferrerID=tb&utm_source=td&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_content=TB00

I wont disagree with you, but I recommended that only if the OP was looking to save money. You are absolutely right that a single video card is less worrisome compared to crossfiring.

 

[eebbaaelfneh]

Hmm I think you've convinced me I'll go for the xfx as soon as I can afford it.
What kind of fps do you think ill get with just the a10

 

[socialfox]

Hmm I think you've convinced me I'll go for the xfx as soon as I can afford it.
What kind of fps do you think ill get with just the a10

Depends on the games you play, if you play something like Halo Combat Evolved then expect 40+.

Here are some benchmarks with some modern games:

As you can notice, the higher the resolution the lower the FPS, it would be the same if you turn up the quality settings.

 

[eebbaaelfneh]

Well given the monitor I have at the moment I don't think I'll be able to play at massive resolutions but are there any cheap monitors you can recommend for future investments?

 

[socialfox]

Well given the monitor I have at the moment I don't think I'll be able to play at massive resolutions but are there any cheap monitors you can recommend for future investments?

Cheap monitors? I hope you meant price wise....

This is what I have:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003B4D5QS/ref=asc_df_B003B4D5QS2311326?smid=A3QZEZE55VH2T8&tag=dealtmp439281-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B003B4D5QS

With an HD 7770 and Phenom II X4 955 Black edition, I have maxed out all the games I play. With the HD 7850 you will have better performance than I do with GPU intensive games.

The resolution of this monitor is 1600x900. This is also a LCD monitor.

 

[djangoringo]

I recommend going with an ips 1080p led monitor with 5ms with dvi and hdmi like this one :

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008F7GVZS/?tag=pcp0f-21

 

[eebbaaelfneh]

Thank for the suggestions, I guess I'll look into it more when I have the money