Hi guys,
Sorry in advance for the monster post - trying to comply with the guidelines for upgrade advice and also explain my situation properly.
Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP
Budget Range: ~£100-160 per major component (complications however - detailed below)
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, internet browsing, music listening (headphones)
Are you buying a monitor: No
Parts to Upgrade: CPU, mobo, RAM, GFX, HDD (maybe)
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: ebuyer.com, dabs.com, scan.co.uk, amazon.co.uk, ebay.co.uk
Location: London, UK
Parts Preferences: Intel CPU
Overclocking: Maybe
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 (I think)
Additional Comments: to play BF:BC2, Witcher 2, PlanetSide 2, (current games basically)
Why Are You Upgrading: I am currently looking to upgrade my computer for a better gaming experience (primarily for PlanetSide 2), but I'm on a very tight budget.
I understand my greatest hurdle is the LG1155/DDR3 upgrade. What I mainly would like to know is whether there are better components than the ones I've chosen which have an equivalent price, and also which part of my system needs upgrading most - CPU, GFX, or HDD?
I have never over-clocked my PCs, but I seem to remember when I built my current system (below) I did so with OCing in mind. If you guys think squeezing a bit more out of my current setup and saving the money up is a better short term solution compared to my proposed upgrade route, I'd definitely look into it.
My computer:
1 x Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHz (1333MHz) Socket 775 6MB L2 Cache OEM Processor
1 x Point Of View 8800GT 512MB GDDR3 256bit Dual DVI PCI-E Graphics Card
1 x ASUS P5K Premium WiFi-AP iP35 Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard
4 x OCZ 1GB DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Platinum XTC Memory CL4 2.1V
1 x Arctic Power 700W PSU - 4x SATA 1x PCI-Express
1 x Arctic Cooling AC-FRZ-7P Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 Processor Cooler
1 x Standard 180GB Samsung SATA drive.
1 x Coolermaster CM690 Dominator Black Mid Tower Case
My original plan:
i5 2500k - £160
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU - £20
HD 6950 2GB - £130 (eBay)
ASUS P8Z68-V LX - £60-70 (eBay)
G.Skill Ripjaws-X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8 GB : 2 x 4 GB Memory - £40
[OCZ Onyx Series 32 GB SSD - £38]
I'm hoping that my existing PSU and case are sufficient for this (is it?)
The problem I have is that I have is that I can only save about £100 per month from my pay, so I need to do this in a piecemeal fashion. This would be pretty difficult with the above system, as upgrading anything except the GFX would require about £300 at once for everything to be compatible. Due to other obligations, I can't really start saving properly till after August.
So with this in mind, I've started shopping around for ways to get a proverbial foot in the LG1155 door. I have been using the gaming CPU/GFX hierarchies and I have come up with the following as an alternative:
i3 G630 - £43
ASUS P8Z68-V LX - £60-70 (eBay)
G.Skill Ripjaws-X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB Memory - £23.51
Scythe SCURK-3000 Universal Retention Kit v.3 - £13 (so I can reuse my existing CPU cooler - dunno if this is practical)
HD 4850 1GB - £35(ish) (eBay) / HD 4870 X2 2GB - £60 (eBay)
Use existing HD (or is the upgrade to an SSD of greater benefit than these other upgrades?)
The G630 seems to be very decent for the money - especially seeing as I can still sell on my old E8400 for £30-£40, so I come out even.
I feel this setup has the advantage that all the components have been around long enough that they aren't going to drop much in price anytime soon - so when I have the funds I can upgrade the rest of the system bit by bit to the parts in my original plan, and sell these parts on at roughly the same price that I bought them.
One issue - according to the GFX hierarchy from 2011 the 4870 X2 is in the same tier as a 6970, but in the latest "Best Graphics Cards For The Money" the HD 6670 is listed as the best in the cheapest bracket, yet it still costs £50 and according to benchmarks and the 2011 hierarchy it is placed far below the 4870 X2, and hardly above my 8800GT. I don't get it. Any ideas, anyone?
So what are your thoughts? What is the best route to getting my computer up to the standard required to play current games with reasonably high settings, without any big individual costs?
Thanks for your help!
Sorry in advance for the monster post - trying to comply with the guidelines for upgrade advice and also explain my situation properly.
Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP
Budget Range: ~£100-160 per major component (complications however - detailed below)
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, internet browsing, music listening (headphones)
Are you buying a monitor: No
Parts to Upgrade: CPU, mobo, RAM, GFX, HDD (maybe)
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: ebuyer.com, dabs.com, scan.co.uk, amazon.co.uk, ebay.co.uk
Location: London, UK
Parts Preferences: Intel CPU
Overclocking: Maybe
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 (I think)
Additional Comments: to play BF:BC2, Witcher 2, PlanetSide 2, (current games basically)
Why Are You Upgrading: I am currently looking to upgrade my computer for a better gaming experience (primarily for PlanetSide 2), but I'm on a very tight budget.
I understand my greatest hurdle is the LG1155/DDR3 upgrade. What I mainly would like to know is whether there are better components than the ones I've chosen which have an equivalent price, and also which part of my system needs upgrading most - CPU, GFX, or HDD?
I have never over-clocked my PCs, but I seem to remember when I built my current system (below) I did so with OCing in mind. If you guys think squeezing a bit more out of my current setup and saving the money up is a better short term solution compared to my proposed upgrade route, I'd definitely look into it.
My computer:
1 x Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHz (1333MHz) Socket 775 6MB L2 Cache OEM Processor
1 x Point Of View 8800GT 512MB GDDR3 256bit Dual DVI PCI-E Graphics Card
1 x ASUS P5K Premium WiFi-AP iP35 Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard
4 x OCZ 1GB DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Platinum XTC Memory CL4 2.1V
1 x Arctic Power 700W PSU - 4x SATA 1x PCI-Express
1 x Arctic Cooling AC-FRZ-7P Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 Processor Cooler
1 x Standard 180GB Samsung SATA drive.
1 x Coolermaster CM690 Dominator Black Mid Tower Case
My original plan:
i5 2500k - £160
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU - £20
HD 6950 2GB - £130 (eBay)
ASUS P8Z68-V LX - £60-70 (eBay)
G.Skill Ripjaws-X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8 GB : 2 x 4 GB Memory - £40
[OCZ Onyx Series 32 GB SSD - £38]
I'm hoping that my existing PSU and case are sufficient for this (is it?)
The problem I have is that I have is that I can only save about £100 per month from my pay, so I need to do this in a piecemeal fashion. This would be pretty difficult with the above system, as upgrading anything except the GFX would require about £300 at once for everything to be compatible. Due to other obligations, I can't really start saving properly till after August.
So with this in mind, I've started shopping around for ways to get a proverbial foot in the LG1155 door. I have been using the gaming CPU/GFX hierarchies and I have come up with the following as an alternative:
i3 G630 - £43
ASUS P8Z68-V LX - £60-70 (eBay)
G.Skill Ripjaws-X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 4 GB : 2 x 2 GB Memory - £23.51
Scythe SCURK-3000 Universal Retention Kit v.3 - £13 (so I can reuse my existing CPU cooler - dunno if this is practical)
HD 4850 1GB - £35(ish) (eBay) / HD 4870 X2 2GB - £60 (eBay)
Use existing HD (or is the upgrade to an SSD of greater benefit than these other upgrades?)
The G630 seems to be very decent for the money - especially seeing as I can still sell on my old E8400 for £30-£40, so I come out even.
I feel this setup has the advantage that all the components have been around long enough that they aren't going to drop much in price anytime soon - so when I have the funds I can upgrade the rest of the system bit by bit to the parts in my original plan, and sell these parts on at roughly the same price that I bought them.
One issue - according to the GFX hierarchy from 2011 the 4870 X2 is in the same tier as a 6970, but in the latest "Best Graphics Cards For The Money" the HD 6670 is listed as the best in the cheapest bracket, yet it still costs £50 and according to benchmarks and the 2011 hierarchy it is placed far below the 4870 X2, and hardly above my 8800GT. I don't get it. Any ideas, anyone?
So what are your thoughts? What is the best route to getting my computer up to the standard required to play current games with reasonably high settings, without any big individual costs?
Thanks for your help!