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August 3, 2012 7:06:55 PM

*sigh* it seems my new build just doesn't want to work easily...
My SSD is Crucial m4 series, 256 GB.

I have a copy of windows XP 64 bit, and a copy of Win 7 64 upgrade from XP version - home premium familiy edition.

Now back at my two other rigs, I had to install in the following way (on my HDD):
Install windows XP, finish installation until you reach the desktop.
Restart, boot from DVD.
Install Windows 7 64 bit Home premium
Choose CUSTOM install.

It always worked perfectly.

Now my Asus Sabertooth Z77 bios is set to AHCI mode - for SATA by default - I know I need this for optimal SSD.
When I try to install windows - in the blue install screenafter booting from DVD - I get a BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!!!
The BSOD happens every time, just a moment after "windows is starting up".

It happened twicealready, I don't want to screw my drive.

PLEASE assit if you can!
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August 3, 2012 7:16:34 PM

As a side note, I have2 sticks of Gskill RAM, 2X8 GB, and 2 "fake" placeholders that comes with the motherboard, supposdly they protect from dust and stuff... should I remove them?
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August 3, 2012 7:29:58 PM

Did you solve your power problem?

You can if you want to.

What STOP code is there or what error code on the BSOD.
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August 3, 2012 7:33:19 PM

What do you have your primary boot device set as? Do you have the hard drive recognition pattern set in the BIOS correctly? When you install Windows it should be set as:

BOOT ORDER 1: CD-ROM
BOOT ORDER 2: HARD DRIVE 1
BOOT ORDER 3: HARD DRIVE 2
BOOT ORDER 4: USB / NETWORK

Now is the Windows 7 disc you are using an OEM version or is it an upgrade from XP? That might be an issue there as well.
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August 3, 2012 7:33:56 PM

I think I solved my power problem.
And well, now I can't install the windows. I have to do the method I listed above, and again, it worked perfectly fine on 2 older rigs I recently reinstalled (on hdd's).

I will send you the stop error soon. gotta go to eat. but it says something about harddrive, and something about having to shut down to protect system.
Please answer what you can.. be back soon.
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August 3, 2012 8:08:39 PM

Ok, first, using my Asus Sabertooth bios my boot order is simply:
CD-ROM
Crucial M4, 246000 mb etc... (more or less)

Now yes it's an upgrade version. I have both original XP 64 bit, and Win 7 64 bit.
I installed it on two pcs after format in the same fasion I noted above, and it worked perfectly.

Now the BSOD happens after it retrive data, loads and stuff (in the bluish windows install screen) right before he completes the initial setups before youget the first menu.

Jay, g-unit1111
here is the STOP message:

0x0000007B, (0xfffffad5d2323, 0xFFFFFFFFC0000034, AND THEN a huge string of zeroses)

more or less.

EDIT: the first time it happened, I accidently pressed "boot override" in BIOS, on the DVD I think, and it automaticall exited BIOS and launched the windows XP install, then crashed. don't know if it matters anything <<<<<
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August 3, 2012 8:15:10 PM

When you install Windows 7- do you perform a clean install or do you install it as an upgrade version?
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August 3, 2012 8:16:59 PM

I don't get to install 7.
I need to first install XP on my never used SSD.
Then right after that, restart, and put win 7 upgrade disc, boot from dvd again and install win 7.
did it on two systems and it worked perfectly.
But can't finish step 1 now..
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August 3, 2012 8:17:22 PM

Jay this is irrelevent.
I try to install an OS on clean system, the crash happens just before I get the choose how to install, etc, menus, while windows install is loading.
You know my build JAy, you know it's brand new, it has nothing to do with those things, unless I miss something.

Maybe I need to turn off AHCI mode of the SATA before I install win xp.
And turn it BACK ON before I install win 7?
Will it work? or will it screw my optimal AHCI mode SSD..
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August 3, 2012 8:20:27 PM

Ransome said:
I don't get to install 7.
I need to first install XP on my never used SSD.
Then right after that, restart, and put win 7 upgrade disc, boot from dvd again and install win 7.
did it on two systems and it worked perfectly.
But can't finish step 1 now..


The reason I was asking was because I did this last night - I wiped the primary HD, installed Windows Vista 64 bit on it, then installed the Windows 7 as an upgrade copy which loads the old OS into a folder called "Windows.old". Have you been able to successfully install Windows on your SSD? And what SSD are you using?
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August 3, 2012 8:21:20 PM

Can't find an answer there :(  what the hell is wrong with my system!!!??!?!
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August 3, 2012 8:24:15 PM

g-unit1111 said:
The reason I was asking was because I did this last night - I wiped the primary HD, installed Windows Vista 64 bit on it, then installed the Windows 7 as an upgrade copy which loads the old OS into a folder called "Windows.old". Have you been able to successfully install Windows on your SSD? And what SSD are you using?



No, I can't install Windows XP 64 bit, so I can't move on. PLEASE HELP.
Well my SSD is Crucial 256 GB m4 series (the newest).

EDIT: Really starting to lose hope here....

Maybe its the AHCI mode? < < < < < <
btw bios shows my sata have like 246 or a bit more... not 256.
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August 3, 2012 8:24:26 PM

XP don't support SATA originally let alone an SSD, you can try using IDE mode instead of ACHI to install XP then switch back to ACHI when you install win7.
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August 3, 2012 8:25:27 PM

Ransome said:
Can't find an answer there :(  what the hell is wrong with my system!!!??!?!


You don't know what SSD you are using? There should be a sticker on the drive itself that says. The reason there is you could go to the manufacturer's website and try updating the firmware from a blank CD.
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August 3, 2012 8:26:59 PM

IDE mode?
g-unit1111 what do you think?
and my SSD is Crucial in case you missed my last crying to heaven message.

EDIT: TRYING IT NOW.
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August 3, 2012 8:29:56 PM

OK Jay, g-unit, I tried going to BIOS, Advanced, SATA config, and changed my SATA mode to IDE like Jay said.
I managed to get into the first menu of the XP install
Should I go for it ?
I really want to install Win7 on the AHCI mode, everyone told me its very important.
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August 3, 2012 8:30:04 PM

Go for it, when you put in the win7 disc , before you boot of it, change the setting back to ACHI.
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August 3, 2012 8:30:13 PM

Ransome said:
IDE mode?
g-unit1111 what do you think?
and my SSD is Crucial in case you missed my last crying to heaven message.


I don't think I would try to run an SSD in IDE mode, and I'm really puzzled that you would keep getting those messages with an M4. The boot drive should always be plugged into SATA 0 and set as the primary in the BIOS, that should clear up any OS confusion.
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August 3, 2012 8:30:49 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I don't think I would try to run an SSD in IDE mode, and I'm really puzzled that you would keep getting those messages with an M4. The boot drive should always be plugged into SATA 0 and set as the primary in the BIOS, that should clear up any OS confusion.


What?
please explain exactly whats that, and how I do it ? I can try it.
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August 3, 2012 8:33:59 PM

On the mobo the sata ports are label with numbers if you look closely, he saying if you plugged it in port 0 then it will be recognised as the primary (main) drive.
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August 3, 2012 8:35:06 PM

Jay I can try it, but I really want to check what g-unit said about making sure the boot dive is plugged into SATA 0, can you tell me how?

And, well, I haveno keyboard on the windows intall screen :S..... mind you, my keyboard is logitech g17.. I need to set something in bios right? (oh and I plugged my keyboard on USB3, and my DVD drive on SATA 2, my SSD on SATA 3).
sry for the long reply.
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August 3, 2012 8:40:10 PM

Your SSD is meant to be the main boot drive (the one the OS should be on), you need to put you SSD SATA cable in port zero, the sata ports are labelled 'SATA_1 or SATA_0 or something similar, look on your board.
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August 3, 2012 8:40:54 PM

I think it counts as if Its on the secondry sata...
Something like, when I go to SATA configure screen:
SATA 6g/s 1 brown: not present.
SATA 6g/s 2 brown: crucial m4 etc...
SATA 3g/s 3 black: not present
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.SATA 3g/s 6 black: DVD sony etc..
SATA 6g/s 7 gray: not present
SATA 6g/s 8 gray: not present

Should I change my SSD location?? I really not sure it metters that much, especially since on IDE mode I can get to win install menu.
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August 3, 2012 8:43:53 PM

Try it if you can or plug your sata cable in to the other brown port.
But see if you get the error when you try to install XP, what XP service pack are you installing (Win XP SP2 or SP3).
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August 3, 2012 8:52:38 PM

Ransome said:
I think it counts as if Its on the secondry sata...
Something like, when I go to SATA configure screen:
SATA 6g/s 1 brown: not present.
SATA 6g/s 2 brown: crucial m4 etc...
SATA 3g/s 3 black: not present
.
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.SATA 3g/s 6 black: DVD sony etc..
SATA 6g/s 7 gray: not present
SATA 6g/s 8 gray: not present

Should I change my SSD location?? I really not sure it metters that much, especially since on IDE mode I can get to win install menu.


Yes. If you look at the ports on the motherboard - they start with SATA-0, SATA-1, SATA-2, and so on. Your primary boot drive should *ALWAYS* be plugged into the port labeled SATA-0.
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August 3, 2012 8:59:03 PM

1)I install the windows xp Pro 64 bit says on the box that it include SP2.
2)On the windows xp install it doesn't recognize the keyboard, the bios does recognize them and say they are enabled I think.
Could it be because I plug them to usb 3?
3) now it's plugged and set on the first sata, going to try installed the system again on AHCI...
Hey i can set each sata here to "hot plug" should I do it ???
4) as a side note, after some time in win install, my cpu and mobo temp are somewhere in 29-31, is this ok? according to bios of course.
5) as additional side note, my psu fan doesnt seem to rotate when I checked it.. could it be because it doesn't have stress?

EDIT: I can almost swear I don't see any numbers here on the Sabertooth z77, but I plugged it on the first according to mobo..
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August 3, 2012 9:06:05 PM

Yes try it now but if it doesn't work then go back to IDE mode....

Try putting the keyboard in a USB 2.0 port (the non blue ones).

Here is what hot plugging is in a way, no point in doing it as you didn't hot swap. or atleast i don't think you did...

Your temps are fine, about your PSU fan, maybe, try giving it a boost with a cocktail stick and see if it starts spinning.
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August 3, 2012 9:07:38 PM

Yes try it now but if it doesn't work then go back to IDE mode....

Try putting the keyboard in a USB 2.0 port (the non blue ones).

Here is what hot plugging is in a wayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_swapping, no point in doing it as you didn't hot swap. or atleast i don't think you did...

Your temps are fine, about your PSU fan, maybe, try giving it a boost with a cocktail stick and see if it starts spinning.
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August 3, 2012 9:14:21 PM

Ok, 1) didnt work. So I try now on IDE mode, when my sata is the first slot.
Dont think I havea choice, just hoping I will be able to install win 7 with the AHCI...

Anyway, getting to my psu again would be a real pain.... I had to lift my case sideways, pull out the ventlation dust filters (of the t600) and check again..
It's weird, I am not sure why it didn't spin..
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August 3, 2012 9:16:54 PM

Might be sleeping....

(the fan)
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August 3, 2012 9:17:06 PM

thank you for the help so far..
It is now installing XP, on IDE mode, wish me luck.

side note: my SATA reads 244,400 + on the windows install and not exactly 256 Gb, is this ok? BIOS reads 256 though..
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August 3, 2012 9:19:51 PM

Ransome said:
thank you for the help so far..
It is now installing XP, on IDE mode, wish me luck.

side note: my SATA reads 244,400 + on the windows install and not exactly 256 Gb, is this ok? BIOS reads 256 though..


Might be the way its formatted, aslong as the SSD works then i wouldn't worry.
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August 3, 2012 9:19:56 PM

um.....hard to check it all the
time
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August 3, 2012 9:29:40 PM

almost done with the xp install. Wish me luck, going to install win 7 with AHCI mode..
And btw, can I use disk cleanup afterwards to delete old windows files with the ssd?
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August 3, 2012 9:30:46 PM

Yes, just don't defrag or anything...

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August 3, 2012 9:41:06 PM

For some reason, now wthat I boot from CD with win 7 cd inside. Instead of starting win 7 install, it ask me to choose system on a black and white screen, and I haveonly 1 choice...
is this ok ?
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August 3, 2012 9:42:14 PM

ok I tried skipping it instead of enter..
it started up win xp and gaveBSOD.
what the hell?
XP install went all smooth and well... how do I install win 7 now?
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August 3, 2012 9:42:58 PM

Can you post a pic?

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August 3, 2012 9:45:52 PM

If you need to boot on XP then set it back to IDE, should of told you this be fore but you can set itt back to ACHI after you install win7...
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August 3, 2012 9:51:55 PM

Another weird somethingL
now whenever I start bios with win7 disc inside I have 3 boot devices:
DVD, SATA, DVD with UFEI marker

Anyway I ignored it for now:
here is the newsflash:
I just press enter when prompt to boot from CD.
Then i get the funny black screen letting me choose from 1 system with EMS enabled in ( ) ..I think..
and I press enter..
Windows 7 is starting up.
I pressinstall now, agree to user agreement..
choose Custom Advanced - I read that if you choose upgrade it messes up everything !because there is no direct real upgrade from xp to win 7. The probably should have been super clear about that. I once installed my system like that I think, and it was horrible.

wish me luck my man
ok after choosing custom advanced, I just continue and now it is installing.

Oh and Im on ACHI right now, too early to tell if everything is ok...
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August 3, 2012 9:57:17 PM

Ok... this might be working.
Now it rebooted. and went back to installing.
I also saw something that bothered me a bit, before the entry step to windows, it had another black screen posting something like choose a system: and the option was:
WINDOWS 7 (earilier version)
this is probably because of the upgrade type install..
but then it skipped it quickly. is there a way to removeit altogether..
thanks... and sry for the swarm of trouble..
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August 3, 2012 10:10:57 PM

Hey Jay JAY! it works!!! I think it works.
Now boot is super fast, no questions no black screens.
hope that it will stay well from now on, god willing.

One thing though. on the BIOS I still had that boot order;
Optirac DVD
Sata M4..
Optirac DVD UFEI ???
whats that UFEI thingy?

I tried disabling it, and so far its ok.. though on the asus TUF bios loading, it says something like "press DEL for BIOS UFEI" so maybe its connected.. what do you think?

2nd, I think my usb 3's doesn't work. They do work on bios, but not on windows 7. Do I need to install ASUS latest chipset driver?

It also didn't recognize my network USB wireless adapter. Not sure how I make it work, I need it for internet.. might install driver from DVD if no choice.
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August 3, 2012 10:22:10 PM

Wait. something is wrong. something is defintly wrong,
I tried installing the level one wua605 network adapter driver from the disc. it ask for a restart.
and now my system is SUPER SLOW to start up. on the colorful windows screen it takes 1-2 minutes..
whats going on man?
could it be something with that UFEI I disabled?
should I disable boot from cd all together?
or maybe uninstall the driver..

man why my system hates me..
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August 3, 2012 10:25:33 PM

tried uninstalling driver and addons that came with it.
And its still super slow.

I swear just 2 msgs ago, I done 3 rboots, each to less than 10 sec to load windows. now it takes FOREVER! why.....:( 
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August 3, 2012 10:26:15 PM

Is it laggy when it has 'logged on'?
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