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August 4, 2012 5:50:40 AM

I was wondering whether or not the components in this PC im going to buy are worth the price and also if it is compatible.
Because from what it seems I could get 4x8 GB Ram 1600 for the same price as the G.Skill so i could get an extra 16GB for the same price. So is the G.skill worth it also with the dual GTX 680's is it better to get 1 690 instead? I just want a general idea of what I could change to get better value and performance for money (PC is designed for gaming and recording)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($353.00 @ Mwave Australia)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9700 LED Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($72.00 @ Foxcomp)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($145.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($635.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($635.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DS 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($48.80 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2976.80
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-04 15:45 EST+1000)

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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 5:54:38 AM

What's the primary use for this system going to be? If it's gaming the entire build will be massive overkill. The sound card isn't needed.
August 4, 2012 5:58:33 AM

Its gonna be mainly gaming and recording but I'm going to use it for general use and also into editing and 3d modelling/animating and video editing
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 6:15:03 AM

xHALORDx said:
Its gonna be mainly gaming and recording but I'm going to use it for general use and also into editing and 3d modelling/animating and video editing


You don't need dual 680s or a single 690 for that, a single 680 should handle everything you need. Drop one of the 680s for now and then add an SSD and maybe a second Caviar Black.
August 4, 2012 6:15:46 AM

im getting a pair of Razer Tiamat 7.1 true surround sound soon so Ill need a good soundcard
August 4, 2012 6:19:10 AM

would a single 680 max most games out - im not a BF3 player but its a good example
How much FPS (estimate) would you get running max BF3 with only 1
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 7:09:37 AM

Hi, my advice would be to get a GTX 670. The GTX 680 quite frankly is a rip off, it costs $100 more than the GTX 670 and performs about the same. If you want to spend the kind of money a GTX 680 commands, you're better off with a 7970, as it outperforms both of them and has much higher overclocking potential.

BF3 does like Nvidia cards slightly more than AMD cards, however, in every other benched game the 7970 is the higher performer.
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 7:10:07 AM

xHALORDx said:
would a single 680 max most games out - im not a BF3 player but its a good example
How much FPS (estimate) would you get running max BF3 with only 1


Yeah a single 680 will max out pretty much anything you can throw at it.
August 4, 2012 7:10:39 AM

crisis 2, Arma 2?
August 4, 2012 7:18:51 AM

Ok so, also what about the g.skills, should I go 32gb instead of 16? for the future
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($353.00 @ Mwave Australia)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9700 LED Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($72.00 @ Foxcomp)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($145.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($555.50 @ Mwave Australia)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DS 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($48.80 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2262.30
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-04 17:19 EST+1000)
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 7:26:08 AM

My honest opinion would be to go for 8GB of RAM. No game is ever going to need 16GB of DDR3 RAM, we'll be on DDR4 or DDR5 before that kind of RAM is necessary for gaming. I have 16GB of RAM on my machine because I'm more of a multitasker than a gamer, buying 16GB of RAM was an idiotic move on my part. Try as I might, I can't even use more than 6GB in Windows Task Manager.

I'd get 2 4GB modules, that would give you 8GB total, and happenstance if you find at some point its not enough (which is highly unlikely), you can add 2 more 4GB sticks giving you 16GB.

Another thought, really for gaming theres no advantage to the i7 over the i5 either. The difference between the i5 and i7 is HyperThreading. No game on the market is coded to know what it is, much less how to use it, and thats not likely to change since most games don't even adequately use all four of the Physical cores on a quad CPU much less the "theoretical" ones that HyperThreading gives you.
August 4, 2012 7:31:48 AM

but as I was saying before I'm also going to use it for general use and also into editing and 3d modelling/animating and video editing. Im going to hook up another monitor aswell so I can have a game on one while something else one the other which id imagine would probably be pretty RAM dependant.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 7:42:19 AM

In that case the i7 would be justified, sorry I missed that part.

As far as the monitor, thats going to put more work on the VRAM of the video card, which a 7970 absolutely has plenty of to do. A 7970 has enough power to easily run more than 2 monitors too.

As far as RAM, I'd say start out with 16GB in those 2 8GB sticks, add more later if you find it lacking. Same concept with crossfireing or Sli configurations for more than one video card, usually better off to start out with one and see if its good enough for you before dropping money on a 2nd one.

Even 3d modeling I can't imagine you'll have much complaints with 16GB.
August 4, 2012 10:25:19 AM

what about cooling ect, The case has I think 4 fans by default. (120 side fan)
I just picked the Zalman CNPS9700 LED randomly because im not to sure what to do in terms of cooling so do you think that 3 standard fans, a 120 side fan and a Zalman should be enough cooling?
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 10:42:20 AM

With a single video card setup, the fans that come with most cases will suffice. Even with an Sli/Crossfire configuration, the advantage of adding fans is questionable. As long as you have a good case with good ventilation, you shouldn't have an issue. The Dragon Rider is nothing but vents pretty much lol

Honestly, the CPU cooler is overkill. You would be fine with something much cheaper like a CoolerMaster 212+ or evo. It really depends on how much you want to push your CPU for a daily overclock. I'd say 4.0GHZ is perfectly reasonable, some will want to push it higher than that. I don't see the point.
August 4, 2012 10:54:15 AM

is overclocking really necessary for this PC? i dont have a problem over clocking it but was just wondering
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 11:05:37 AM

Not really no. Its nice to at least get a CPU that can be overclocked to keep your options open though.
August 4, 2012 12:24:01 PM

final build before I buy, if there is any problems with compatibility or overkill or something cheaper from somewhere else ect can you please let me know because im gonna buy soon
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($526.90 @ Mwave)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DS 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($38.68 @ Newegg)
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case ($149.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($79.87 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($587.62 @ Mac Connection)
Total: $2075.99
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-04 08:24 EDT-0400)
August 4, 2012 12:27:50 PM

sorry was wondering why it was so cheap, i was on the american one. I gotta pay like an extra 300$ USD for the parts just cause im australian

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($353.00 @ Mwave Australia)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($145.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($555.50 @ Mwave Australia)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DS 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($48.80 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2226.30
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-04 22:27 EST+1000)
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 3:51:18 PM

The sound card is overkill. Even cheap motherboards have pretty good surround sound support these days. Unless you're using computer speakers that cost more than $150, I wouldn't bother. Other than that, its pretty decent.
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 5:56:41 PM

nekulturny said:
The sound card is overkill. Even cheap motherboards have pretty good surround sound support these days. Unless you're using computer speakers that cost more than $150, I wouldn't bother. Other than that, its pretty decent.


I agree that the sound card is unnecessary. I'd also add an SSD to that mix.

Is there any reason you're using that In Win case?
August 4, 2012 11:48:19 PM

im using the inwin case because of its ventilation, easy building (no tools needed) and just it overall appearance. When you say the sound card is overkill do you think i should not get one or get a cheaper one because i will be using true DD 7.1 SS
August 4, 2012 11:50:49 PM

also what size SSD do you think will be necessary
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 4, 2012 11:55:56 PM

Quote:
When you say the sound card is overkill do you think i should not get one or get a cheaper one because i will be using true DD 7.1 SS

Not get one at all.

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also what size SSD do you think will be necessary


At bare minimum 128GB. Ideally 256GB. Don't forget NTFS format takes away from from what the actual amount of space is. For example, my 500GB drive is actually 449GB of usable space, Windows7 takes about 15GB. And considering a single game these days can easily take 10GB just for one, you don't want to cut yourself short with a small SSD.
August 5, 2012 12:22:31 AM

Im having a 1tb harddrive but ive always got a 1tb external harddrive where i save all my stuff
August 5, 2012 12:24:59 AM

also 256's are like 300$
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2012 12:25:08 AM

Yes but in order to take advantage of the faster speed the SSD offers, the games or programs you want to load faster will have to be installed on the SSD, not the backup drive.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2012 12:26:54 AM

xHALORDx said:
also 256's are like 300$

Well the prices of SSDs are going down. Maybe just get a regular hard drive for now and think about an SSD as an upgrade in a year or so.
August 5, 2012 12:26:58 AM

so have my usual 1tb external and internal but also have a internal SSD where I save all my games ect so it runs faster?
August 5, 2012 12:34:56 AM

also what brand HD 7970 do you think I should buy? any?
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2012 12:36:14 AM

You install Windows7 on the internal SSD like you would a normal hard drive, and when you buy a game you install it on the SSD. The games dont run faster, they just load faster. They'll load faster when you finish playing a level and the next one loads up, Windows7 will load faster. Instead of 1-2 minutes like it normally takes, its like 30 seconds with an SSD. An SSD isn't going to increase your FPS in games or anything like that.
August 5, 2012 12:40:32 AM

also everyone is saying its better to get a single gtx 680 over a 7970 even though it has smaller vram
August 5, 2012 12:44:22 AM

Sapphire 11197-01-40G Radeon HD 7970 3GB 1.0GHz
(1)
$499.00 ViewAdd
Sapphire 21197-00-40G Radeon HD 7970 3GB 925MHz
(138)
$899.00
Whats the difference?
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2012 12:49:27 AM

The first one is overclocked and has a better cooler on it. The 2nd one, is just the stock "reference" cooler. Why its so ridiculously more expensive I don't know. The first one is the better buy by far.
August 5, 2012 12:53:21 AM

what about the gtx680? because from every benchmark ive seen a single 2gb gtx680 kills the 7970
August 5, 2012 12:54:14 AM

what about this? 4gb gtx690
GeForce GTX 680 4GB 1.08Ghz
(19)
$799.00
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2012 12:55:36 AM

The GTX 690 is basically 2 GTX 680s in one card. Hence, 2 7970s in Crossfire will destroy it.
August 5, 2012 1:01:51 AM

kind of a newb question but ive always wondered, was does GE mean?
August 5, 2012 1:03:18 AM

Should this be good ( I kept the SSD, might aswell)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($353.00 @ Mwave Australia)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.00 @ Scorptec)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: OCZ Agility 3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($195.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($499.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case ($105.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2425.00
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-05 11:03 EST+1000)
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2012 1:07:01 AM

xHALORDx said:
kind of a newb question but ive always wondered, was does GE mean?

No its a good question lol. GE stands for Gigahertz Edition. Its a new version of the 7970 that hasn't been released yet. Basically, its just an overclocked 7970 that will cost more. Now is actually a good time to get a 7970 because they overclock so well. You can just buy a regular 7970 and overclock it and get a "Gigahertz Edition" for cheaper.

The regular 7970s made after the GE 7970 starts being sold probably wont overclock as good since AMD will be using the better chips for them. When they make computer chips, the way they're made and used is like baking cookies, some of them turn out perfect, other cookies might be not as chewy, so you tend to eat those last. I know thats a silly analysis, but an accurate one. The good chips will be used for the better cards. Its like Intel 2500Ks, they're going to get the better binned chips, and the ones that don't turn out as perfect will be used for i5-2400s.
August 5, 2012 1:10:23 AM

can you overclock a GE even though its overclocked so you get like a double OC
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
August 5, 2012 1:13:41 AM

Yes, but as I implied every GPU is different. One might overclock a lot, the other might only overclock a little. But yes, the GE OC in that link I showed you is overclocked further than what the standard GE speed is.
August 5, 2012 1:14:27 AM

do you know the release date for the GE?
August 5, 2012 1:22:51 AM

that thing looks sick, I wouldnt mind getting it shipped over if its just a Graphics card or something because the postage shouldnt be to bad. cant say the same for the case thats why im getting it over here. :p 
August 5, 2012 1:24:58 AM

its not listed on PCPARTPICKER Australia
August 5, 2012 1:31:13 AM

ok so this but im gonna get a GE 7970 so this should be decent
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($353.00 @ Mwave Australia)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.00 @ Scorptec)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: OCZ Agility 3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($195.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($499.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case ($105.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2425.00
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-05 11:03 EST+1000)
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