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Need new graphics card for FALLOUT 3!!!

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June 13, 2012 8:49:39 PM

I have a Dell Optiplex GX620 and I wanted to play Fallout 3 on maxed settings at about 40+ fps

Here's my System's specs: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2404674

The Gpu clocks are OCed with MSI afterburner, but this card was for playing DDO, since I got Fallout 3, I quit playing DDO. Now I need a better card, so I can have more fun :D 

The CPU can be maxed out at 3.6 GHz, but I can't OC this CPU, because of the bios lock. The RAM is maxed out at 4Gb's, but I can only use 3.4Gb's. My budget is $200, but I am open to ideas.

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June 13, 2012 9:02:16 PM

I'd recommend the 7850 for a good value but depends on your budget. Even lower graphics cards will also work.
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June 13, 2012 9:05:55 PM

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What is your PSU size, Screen resolution and budget?



My PSU size is 550 watts, 1600x1200, and $200. I can play this okay on the current card, but I wanna play on maxed settings.
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June 13, 2012 9:14:08 PM

and I rather have a MSI card, because it's so simple to use the afterburner.
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June 13, 2012 9:19:17 PM

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You can use any card with afterburner ;) 


I meant to say I rather use nvidia cards
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June 13, 2012 9:19:21 PM

You should get a Amd Radeon 6850 you can pick one up for around 150$ an lower or can bump up to 6870 and yea your CPU will bottleneck it which means your GPU won't work to full potential


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June 13, 2012 9:22:01 PM

Jasonhunterx said:
You should get a Amd Radeon 6850 you can pick one up for around 150$ an lower or can bump up to 6870 and yea your CPU will bottleneck it which means your GPU won't work to full potential


Your saying that my CPU is slower then the 6850?
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June 18, 2012 11:09:31 PM

As my motherboard is BTX it can only support single slot cards, not double slot like the 6850

Which one is better?

GeForce GT440 2GB DDR3 128bit $110.26
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GeForce GTS450 1.2G DDR3 128bit $130.65

and how much better will my OCed 8400GS be compared to these cards?
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June 18, 2012 11:55:57 PM

the GTS 450 is the better card and the better buy for your money. fallout 3 is not a very demanding game though so you will have no issue with the GTS 450. you probably won't see the full potential of the card though with your CPU.

the nvidia 8400gs would fall below the ATI 5450 in the chart below in terms of performance





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June 19, 2012 5:45:46 AM

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June 19, 2012 6:20:18 AM

How is that the best answer? You can get a AMD 6950 even though it's AMD not NVidia it's way more powerful.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics...
As long as you have a good brand of PSU it can handle the card too.
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
I'd rather have my CPU limiting the maximum FPS a bit that letting the GPU do that (in this case at least). Then if you can upgrade the CPU in the future that's best. Lots of games that aren't very CPU demanding and are very GPU demanding won't limit the GPU much at all. This will play fallout 3 at least double the FPS of the 450. By getting a NVidia only you can get the best cards in the top end market and have awful choices in the lower price market.
This is the card I'd get and it's a great buy for the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Now if you're pigheaded and only want NVidia you can get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
which performs similar (but a bit under).
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June 19, 2012 12:02:05 PM

andrewcarr said:
How is that the best answer? You can get a AMD 6950 even though it's AMD not NVidia it's way more powerful.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics...
As long as you have a good brand of PSU it can handle the card too.
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
I'd rather have my CPU limiting the maximum FPS a bit that letting the GPU do that (in this case at least). Then if you can upgrade the CPU in the future that's best. Lots of games that aren't very CPU demanding and are very GPU demanding won't limit the GPU much at all. This will play fallout 3 at least double the FPS of the 450. By getting a NVidia only you can get the best cards in the top end market and have awful choices in the lower price market.
This is the card I'd get and it's a great buy for the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Now if you're pigheaded and only want NVidia you can get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
which performs similar (but a bit under).




1) you would not see a difference with the AMD 6950 and Nvidia GTS450 while using a pentium D CPU. while the AMD 6950 is obviously the better performance card it will not double your FPS, it will in fact barely change it.
let's look at actual facts rather then stupid opinions
the OP has a Pentium D but in this benchmark they use an athlon x2 5000. see passmark link as rough benchmark, the athlon x2 5000 obviously should offer slightly better performance.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html
with the athlon CPU the ATI 4850 (similar performance as the nvidia GTS450) just stays under 43FPS yet with more powerful cards the like the GTX 285, the FPS only increases to...45FPS. The video cards are clearly held back by the CPU since with more powerful CPUs, the more powerful video cards are able to accelerate FPS. Now, with a CPU that is less powerful then the athlon x2, do you think the difference in video cards will be bigger or smaller.... :whistle: 



2) upgrading a CPU on mass vendor is not an easy thing as you are limited by the vendors BIOS rather then the mobo manufacturers, helps increase sales by limiting upgrades. the GX620 was sold only with P4, PD, and celeron processors so 99% of the time with DELL those are the only CPUs that mobo will support. So the OP is already at the top of his food chain with a PD @ 3.4ghz.

3) older DELL mobos that use PCI-E x16 1.0 slots like the the OPs have issues with PCI-E 2.1 cards (most modern AMD & ATI cards). once again its an issue with the DELL BIOS. 2.0 cards (like modern Nvidia) don't have this issue with Dell mobos.

perhaps you should read more on the subject of PC hardware to help understand it better before offering any more foolish & "pg-headed" opinions.
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