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August 4, 2012 7:08:54 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 1 Week or sooner.

Budget Range: $2,000 (but if i can save that is welcomed!)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Fraps, Streaming, Browsing.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade:

Do you need to buy OS: Win7 Home, prob OEM

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Location: Huntsville AL

Parts Preferences: If the brand is good its fine.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe (tearing still an issue)

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080+

Additional Comments: Would like a quiet computer so I am thinking of getting Liquid Cooling over Fans, also leaves the option of maybe OC.
I want an SSD for OS and multiple games but i will still have a storage HD for files.
I want an all in 1 card reader but i don't know which is good.
Unsure if i want to spend the extra $ on a blue ray reader that can do DVD/CD R/RW, ive never bought a blue ray and i dont see any plans to buy one.
Computer Case Performace > Looks.
Vid card must be able to run dual monitors in case i decide to go that route.
Also looking USB 3.0.

Currently this is what i have picked out.
ASUS 24X DVD Burner
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe 240GB
CORSAIR H80
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (thinking maybe just going for the K, $30 more.
ASRock Z77 Extreme4
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-650 650W
ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5-V2 Radeon HD 7850 2GB
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
COOLER MASTER HAF 922

Im pretty Tech savvy but i just don't keep up with the new stuff. Thanks in advance!

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August 4, 2012 7:47:50 PM

I like your ssd choice, no need to change it - $200

rosewill r5 case - has the best cooling options in a case that I've seen and has easy to remove dust filters - $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

same choice of motherboard - $135

gigabyte gtx 670 windforce oc - $400
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681412542...

like the psu choice as well - $80

The noctua nh-d14 has the best numbers that I've yet seen in an air cooler, things like the h80 provide worse performance. - $86
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

same hard drive- $90

same ram - $41

windows 7 - $100

asus blu ray drive (watch a blu ray on a friend's system-then tell me you don't want one for $30 more) - $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and with a cooler like the noctua you've gotta go for the k-series cpu - $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3 monitors? Definitely 3 monitors. - $435
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

pci-e x1 wifi card - $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

for a total of $1942. Have fun!
August 4, 2012 7:48:15 PM

Good, solid choices overall. I'm not a fan of Rosewill PSUs though. Are you looking for advice to save cash or what..?
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August 4, 2012 8:12:28 PM

Doesn't mean that unit is not reliable. Capstone is made by Super Flower, a company ranked the same as Seasonic.
August 4, 2012 8:13:48 PM

this is better. the sandisk extreme is the same as the mushkin chronos deluxe but right now its a bit cheaper. the h80 telling you right now is loud


my personal build but it works for you. if the fractal design define R4 was instock i would get it but the corsair obsidian 550D is just as quiet
http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/dPV7
August 4, 2012 8:44:43 PM

ATM im not looking to upgrade to 3 monitors, 1 is enough. Also i wasn't aware the H80 was loud. The computer room will have 2-3 computers so i don't want it to be loud. What would be a good Liquid Cooling or Fan that is very quiet and has room incase i want to OC a bit.

The Blueray player that kevin linked says you need software for the BR to work?
August 4, 2012 8:47:37 PM

For liquid cooling, you'd need to go custom to get any good benefits.
August 4, 2012 8:54:00 PM

alright, whats a good quiet fan?
August 4, 2012 9:45:02 PM

Hyper 212 EVO.
August 4, 2012 11:07:05 PM

Anyone know a good DVD/CD Drive but that can play Blue Ray out of the box?
August 4, 2012 11:09:17 PM

You need a Blu Ray reader/writer to do that.
August 4, 2012 11:10:46 PM

Alright, well whats a good one thats not so expensive?
August 4, 2012 11:13:37 PM

Thank you. I have been trying to find a good all-in-one card reader but no luck.
August 4, 2012 11:46:25 PM

get a noctua nh-d14 heatsink that i included in my build. they are pretty quiet. (much quieter than a h80)
August 4, 2012 11:54:38 PM

TheBigTroll said:
get a noctua nh-d14 heatsink that i included in my build. they are pretty quiet. (much quieter than a h80)


Will it fit in the Coolmaster 922 case NP?
August 5, 2012 12:00:45 AM

if it has 160mm of height clearance yes. but if you are gettting a 922, why not get the haf xm? looks much better
August 5, 2012 12:15:19 AM

It is $30 more.
August 5, 2012 12:21:37 AM

Worth the $30 more.
August 5, 2012 12:39:49 AM

Look at these changes.

Combo that board with the "new & improved" version of the CM 922.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $240.98 save: $24.00
COOLER MASTER HAF XM RC-922XM-KKN1 Black Mesh, Plastic, Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard


An unlocked (K) cpu so you have the option to over clock.

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro... $219.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K


This CM cpu h/s runs quiet and will get you a decent o/c and it doesn't break the bank.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $34.99 - $29.99 after mail-in rebate FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+


Low profile RAM so you don't impede any decent size after market cpu h/s.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $43.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO


A quicker storage drive like this WD Black

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-D... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX


An SSD that utilizes SF Toggle Nand like this Sandisk

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Drive--S... $184.79 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive- SDSSDX-240G-G25


And a solid modular psu to push dual gtx 670's if you ever decide to add another one later on. Micro stuttering is all but non existent with these new cards.

http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-M12II-750-BRONZE-Power-S... $119.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SeaSonic M12II 750 SS-750AM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Semi-modular Power Supply


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $399.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASUS GTX670-DC2-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $409.99 (Before $25.00 Mail-In Rebate Card) FREE SHIPPING
MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $399.99 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6... <----- GTX 670 2GB review w/benchmarks


http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $88.73 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping.
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack


http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6821 <----- another look at that case along with links to professional online reviews

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <----- that same case on Newegg with customer reviews


http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Computer-Cooling-R4... $14.33 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AR-GP 200mm Red LED Case Fan
August 5, 2012 12:45:46 AM

if you are looking for quiet system,
you need to consider quiet from the start, you will never able to re-quiet your system back down.

Here is some feedback:


Pick one of the cases listed here:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article75-page5.html
I personally am using the nzxt h2...but anything from that list should be great.
The one you currently are considering is NOT on the list.

That PSU also is NOT on the quiet list, although I did not really research it.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_PSUs

This list is not as comprehensive, but you can use it for a starting point and pick at least from the same manufacturer or product lines.
seasonic is usually the top dog.

For the GPU:
here is the benchmark related to noise:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX...
the ASUS is slightly quieter if you want to switch to that.
August 5, 2012 12:48:08 AM

Why_Me said:
Look at these changes.

Combo that board with the "new & improved" version of the CM 922.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $240.98 save: $24.00
COOLER MASTER HAF XM RC-922XM-KKN1 Black Mesh, Plastic, Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard


An unlocked (K) cpu so you have the option to over clock.

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro... $219.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K


This CM cpu h/s runs quiet and will get you a decent o/c and it doesn't break the bank.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $34.99 - $29.99 after mail-in rebate FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+


Low profile RAM so you don't impede any decent size after market cpu h/s.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $43.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO


A quicker storage drive like this WD Black

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-D... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX


An SSD that utilizes SF Toggle Nand like this Sandisk

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Drive--S... $184.79 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive- SDSSDX-240G-G25


And a solid modular psu to push dual gtx 670's if you ever decide to add another one later on. Micro stuttering is all but non existent with these new cards.

http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-M12II-750-BRONZE-Power-S... $119.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SeaSonic M12II 750 SS-750AM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Semi-modular Power Supply


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $399.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASUS GTX670-DC2-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $409.99 (Before $25.00 Mail-In Rebate Card) FREE SHIPPING
MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $399.99 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6... <----- GTX 670 2GB review w/benchmarks


http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $88.73 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping.
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack


http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6821 <----- another look at that case along with links to professional online reviews

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <----- that same case on Newegg with customer reviews


http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Computer-Cooling-R4... $14.33 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AR-GP 200mm Red LED Case Fan

+1 i would go this route :D  Get a better aftermarket cooler though.
August 5, 2012 12:51:52 AM

Thanks for the info guys, ill look it over.
August 5, 2012 12:54:27 AM

bigcyco1 said:
+1 i would go this route :D  Get a better aftermarket cooler though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $63.99 FREE SHIPPING
Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+


http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=265... <----- review of that CM cpu h/s @ Frosty Tech

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm <----- that same CM cpu h/s on Frosty Tech's Top 5 list
August 5, 2012 12:54:48 AM

TheBigTroll said:
get a noctua nh-d14 heatsink that i included in my build. they are pretty quiet. (much quieter than a h80)
+1 much better my only gripe is it is ugly as hell. :lol: 
August 5, 2012 12:55:29 AM

Agree mostly with above suggestions:

+1 on 212evo is excellent enough, especially if you don't need a massive OC. If you DO expect to need more cooling, then the d14 is the way to go...

You do not necessarily need to spend more on fans. Just start with the decent case to start, add on in the future if you are overheating. For quiet, if you like coolermaster, consider the silent series instead of HAF.
August 5, 2012 12:55:39 AM

Why_Me said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $63.99 FREE SHIPPING
Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+


http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=265... <----- review of that CM cpu h/s @ Frosty Tech

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm <----- that same CM cpu h/s on Frosty Tech's Top 5 list
Much better and is not to soar on the eyes i like it. :) 
August 5, 2012 1:03:50 AM

What is SF toggle?
August 5, 2012 1:05:58 AM

Puandro said:
What is SF toggle?

It's the controller.

Sand Force Toggle Nand > Sand Force Synchronous Nand > Sand Force An synchronous Nand
August 5, 2012 1:19:58 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dR8R

The SSD i picked has SF Toggle and my friend recommended it so ill take it over the SanDisk.

Ill stick with the HAF XM since it has plenty of room.

I took the slimmer RAM, thanks for pointing that out.

I think the EVO will be enough for my needs ATM.

Only question is, will 650W PSU be enough? i want to stick with a Modular ones though.
August 5, 2012 1:22:38 AM

if you have a gripe for the noctua, you can always get a phanteks
August 5, 2012 1:24:03 AM

Puandro said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dR8R

The SSD i picked has SF Toggle and my friend recommended it so ill take it over the SanDisk.

Ill stick with the HAF XM since it has plenty of room.

I took the slimmer RAM, thanks for pointing that out.

I think the EVO will be enough for my needs ATM.

Only question is, will 650W PSU be enough? i want to stick with a Modular ones though.

It depends on what card. If it's the 670 then look at a 750w psu for headroom.

Also keep in mind that the GTX 660 ti 2GB is due for release August 16th. It should run somewhere between $250 - $300 and a 650w psu will push two of those cards in SLI.
August 5, 2012 1:25:04 AM

Puandro said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dR8R

The SSD i picked has SF Toggle and my friend recommended it so ill take it over the SanDisk.

Ill stick with the HAF XM since it has plenty of room.

I took the slimmer RAM, thanks for pointing that out.

I think the EVO will be enough for my needs ATM.

Only question is, will 650W PSU be enough? i want to stick with a Modular ones though.
The 650W will be enough if your getting 670 i would suggest getting 750W for breathing room.
August 5, 2012 1:25:55 AM

TheBigTroll said:
if you have a gripe for the noctua, you can always get a phanteks


Sorry you lost me here :p 


And I don't plan to SLI within this year.
August 5, 2012 1:30:00 AM

Bigcyo the first Rosewell PSU wasn't modular thats why i picked this one, is there much of a diff? I don't mind spending a bit more if its needed, just want it modular.
August 5, 2012 1:38:26 AM

Puandro said:
Sorry you lost me here :p 


And I don't plan to SLI within this year.

You have a $2000 budget. Get the 750w psu so you don't have to screw around with changing up your psu later on. With the semi modular psu's the only cables hard wired are the ones your going to need like the power cable for your board, etc... the ones that are optional are the ones that are modular.
August 5, 2012 1:41:11 AM

Why_Me said:
You have a $2000 budget. Get the 750w psu so you don't have to screw around with changing up your psu later on. With the semi modular psu's the only cables hard wired are the ones your going to need like the power cable for your board, etc... the ones that are optional are the ones that are modular.
+1 well said get the one Why_Me recommended or this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... don't screw around when it comes to your PSU
August 5, 2012 1:45:49 AM

That corsair does look very nice.
August 5, 2012 1:46:57 AM

Im not, just kind of a noob with PSU, i know they are very important hehe.
August 5, 2012 1:47:47 AM


You don't want Rosewill. Seasonic, XFX (manufactured by Seasonic), Corsair TX and AX (manufactured by Seasonic, Antec, Silverstone, PC Power & Cooling, Enermax, and LEPA (the ones manufactured by Enermax).
August 5, 2012 1:56:28 AM

Ill leave it up for a bit more see if other people have opinions. Thanks for everyone help!
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