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August 4, 2012 9:19:12 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Late this month - Early September

Budget Range: £600 - £750

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Coding, Graphics Design, Surfing the Web

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon, ebay (New parts only though)

Location: UK

Parts Preferences: I prefer Intel, Corsair. Other parts, I am open to advice.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

I already have somewhat of an idea, of what I would want but i'd like some opinions on it, and if I can get any better parts for my money.

Here's what I was thinking, and can be a guideline for my budget.

Case - CiT Vantage Limited Edition White Gaming Case
Power Supply - Corsair enthusiast TX750
Motherboard - Gigabyte Z77
CPU - i5-3570k 3.4GHz (Ivybridge)
Ram - 16GB Corsair Vengeance 4 x 4GB modules
Graphics Card - Radeon HD 6950
Hard Drive - 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue
Optical Drive - They are roughly all the same price, I don't want any blu-ray or nothing like that.
CPU cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212+

Thanks in advance, hope I can get some advice :) 

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August 4, 2012 10:08:06 PM

I will lower the RAM down to 8GB and change out the PSU. What's better with that board compared to the one I have chosen? Also i'm highly considering that card. Thanks!
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August 4, 2012 10:13:01 PM

Well all you say is Gigabyte Z77 so Idk which board it is. But the board I selected has SLI/CF at 8x/8x which is better than 16x/4x I'm assuming which is of the prior board. If your board is more expensive, the board I selected saves money and it's pretty solid for the performance.
August 5, 2012 12:27:09 AM

Hmm... Your link just brings me to their homepage. Can you just give the boards spec numbers? Just copy and paste/
August 5, 2012 12:31:53 AM

OH LOL... Didn't even notice the period.

Both are fine, would still go with the board I suggested as it runs 8x/8x unlike the D3H. I assume you're SLI/CF as you've picked a 750w.
August 5, 2012 12:33:41 AM

Umm, you just said unlike the D3H. The D3H is in your post, is it not? Doesn't your board, the D3H run in x8/x8? :p 
August 5, 2012 1:00:22 AM

Thanks, I think i'll stick to the original board because SLI/CF isn't an option I could pick up very soon. I will drop the PSU considering i'm not planning on upgrading, but the reassurance is there. Another question, are all these parts compatible? I have no clue! :) 
August 5, 2012 1:36:43 AM

If you're not planning to SLI/CF then just drop down to a 550w or less. A 650 is overkill for more modern cards.

As for the D3H, I meant the Z77 D3H doesn't support SLI or 8x/8x. The Z68A-D3H is a different story. But it's not Z77.
August 5, 2012 1:57:07 AM

650 watts is A LOT honestly, unless you're SLI-ing two high end cards you aren't going to really need more.
August 5, 2012 1:57:10 AM

I think I'm going to keep the 650w just in case I do get the urge to. Also, I don't know if this question is something that can be simply answered, but what would the closest nvidia card be to this AMD 7850? I do prefer the nvidia cards, but I know AMD have alot more variations in price!
August 5, 2012 3:27:57 AM

Then why did you recommend the Z77 D3H if you're saying it doesn't support x8/x8.
August 5, 2012 8:36:55 AM

I did not recommend the Z77 D3H. I recommended the Z77X-D3H. Different boards.

The closest NVidia 7850 is the 560 Ti but if you got that it's not even close to worth it. Reason? The 7850 consumes less power, has less heat, better performance and after max overclocks of the 560 Ti and the 7850. The 7850 can surpass the GTX 580, and overclock easily there I might add with low heat. While the 560 Ti only reaches a little past a 570.
August 5, 2012 8:52:12 AM

Thank you so much for the help, I think I am going to start buying the parts, unless there is anything else you want to touch on? :) 
August 5, 2012 10:16:49 AM

Ocing a 7850 only gets close to toppling the 580. It doesnt quite get there.
August 5, 2012 10:31:33 AM

From what I have seen of the 7850, it can still run games in ultra no problem. That is mainly what I wanted to get out of this computer, so if the card can get 40+ fps on ultra, I'd consider it a good enough card!
August 5, 2012 10:37:55 AM

Once oced, it will.
August 5, 2012 10:52:14 AM

Is there any complications with oc'ing it? I've heard of how easy oc'ing a CPU is getting, but never read anything on a GPU?
August 5, 2012 10:59:51 AM

Simple, slide the slider over to 1GHz and keep the voltage the same.
August 5, 2012 11:59:27 AM

Awesome thanks, so do you think with all these parts, it's good to go?
August 5, 2012 7:54:23 PM

Yes it's fine. I'd try voltage tweaking, with a little bit of dedication and stress testing with Kombustor you could pretty much get 1.2GHZ which would surpass a GTX 580.
August 5, 2012 8:04:46 PM

Thank you so much, also the mobo said it was crossfire capable. So even if I did want to upgrade, I can on that mobo! Again thank you :D 
August 5, 2012 9:44:56 PM

I hate to annoy, but I just got an old computer from a friend and stripped out the HDD and Optical Drive, and upgrades I can do for an extra 80ish pound?
August 5, 2012 9:54:34 PM

What is that comp's specs?
August 5, 2012 10:16:50 PM

I don't know them, but I do know however that it is a HP Pavilion Slimline, and since it's discontinued I can't find them :/ 
August 5, 2012 10:18:24 PM

Not worth upgrading it. Follow azn's advice.
August 5, 2012 10:38:29 PM

I mean I took 2 parts from it, to lower the cost on the build. I don't have to buy a HDD or Optical Drive now, lowering the price, so I can put more money into something else?
August 5, 2012 10:55:30 PM

What size and speed is the HDD? Also, what manufacturer?
August 5, 2012 11:16:30 PM

It's a Samsung SpinPoint, 320 GB (Just realised, thought it was 500).
Spindle Speed: 7200 rpm
Seek time: 8.9ms
August 5, 2012 11:19:19 PM

Then yes, use the money saved on a Radeon 7950.
August 6, 2012 12:09:12 AM

^+1

It has to be sata, keep that in mind because Sandy/IB boards don't support IDE. But being that it is a Spinpoint with that much sapce. It should be SATA.

As for the Crossfire, it'll run Crossfire but at 16x/4x. So it's not bad it's just 10% less than 8x/8x.
August 6, 2012 12:18:11 AM

Thanks both, looking up the framerates on that 7950, they seem reasonably similar to the 7850. Is there a way of oc'ing this also?
August 6, 2012 12:25:01 AM

They shouldn't be reasonably similar. Every card can OC...
7850 vs 7950
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=550
Maybe an overclocked 7850 will get to as high as a 7950 with the max OC but it shouldn't be stock vs stock the same.

A 7950 can overclock to about a GTX 670 without pushing voltages. After pushing voltages the 7950 being about ~$60 less can almost beat a GTX 670 at its overclocking limit.
http://hardocp.com/article/2012/05/14/geforce_680_670_v...
August 6, 2012 1:37:20 AM

Ah right, that explains it a lot more. I think that's all I need to know, and I want to thank you both, even with all my changes :p 

This is what I have chosen to go for, taking in all your considerations.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/3ET1O8PTP01ZL

Just wanted to do an update! :) 
August 6, 2012 2:10:01 AM

Looks good!
August 6, 2012 4:22:44 AM

Parts:
CPU: Intel i5 3570K -- a little overclocking for the future
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116504
$230

MOBO: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 -- a full atx board for wholesome goodness.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157293
$134

RAM: 8GB 1333Mhz G.skillz -- Affordable and future-friendly, 8GB is.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231311
$43

GPU (1080p): Nvidia 660Ti or ATI Radeon 7950 -- 660Ti is releasing soon, for $300!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125414
$350

PSU: 600W OCZ ModXstream Pro -- It's Modular!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341017
$75

HDD: 1TB 64MB 7200RPM Cache Seagate/WD -- 1TB comes at a good $/GB rate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148840
$90

CASE: Antec Nine Hundred -- For that spacious gaming need.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021
$97

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo -- Need overclocking? Get this.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste [...] ds=EVO+212
$31

Total................... $1050
August 6, 2012 4:59:58 AM

^ Lots of dead links. Also, OP is in UK not america.
August 6, 2012 6:33:59 AM

Unfortunate on the overseas part, but i've always preferred nvidia, I hear a lot of positive things about them. If it comes out before I order all the parts, you think it would be worth it?
August 6, 2012 6:42:05 AM

Hard to say, although it's all expected for the 660 Ti to sit at about $350 US, it recently just popped up in Sweden for $400 US with the exchange rate. So... Hard to say how much it'll cost after a conversion to quid.

AMD is honestly not that bad. Drivers are actually pretty solid from AMD now a days. I'm sporting a 7870 right now and seeing no issues at all and smooth frames with Ultra settings 8x AA @ 1680x1050 on BF3. Getting 60 FPS consistently.
August 6, 2012 6:47:31 AM

After you say that, I can't see why not to like them then. I mean you obviously know what you're doing so why not! :) 
August 7, 2012 1:52:16 AM

I took in your mobo suggestion and chose an ASRock Z77 Extreme4 now!
August 8, 2012 1:29:48 AM

Saved the link, thank you! I also had to change the case because looking at the width, it looks like i'd be pushing it with the cpu cooler.
August 8, 2012 5:42:16 AM

Good luck and that's ok