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Gigabyte GTX 560 VS Gainward GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Core Limited Edition

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June 14, 2012 12:10:44 PM

So I'm deciding whether to get the 560 Ti over the regular 560. I've been recommended the 448 Core by 5+ people but I don't understand why it's so much better.. To me it seems that the regular 560 has better stats in some sections.

So my question is, is it worth paying $90 more for the Gainward TGX 560 Ti 448? Or should I stick with the regular 560 and eventually put it them into SLI? This will be for gaming purposes with my resolution at 1920x1080..

The Powersupply I'll be using is Seasonic S12II 620W Power Supply.

Thanks!
a b U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 12:31:31 PM

By far the 560 Ti 448 is better. It's a slightly crippled 570, 448 cores vs the 570's 480 cores.

The 560 has 336 and the 560 Ti has 384. Both are based on GF114. Where as the the 448 version is based on GF110(GTX 580/570) It also has more memory.
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June 14, 2012 12:34:38 PM

cliffro said:
By far the 560 Ti 448 is better. It's a slightly crippled 570, 448 cores vs the 570's 480 cores.

The 560 has 336 and the 560 Ti has 384. Both are based on GF114. Where as the the 448 version is based on GF110(GTX 580/570) It also has more memory.

Would I be seeing a dramatic frame rate rise that you know of?

Thanks for the great answer!
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a b U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 12:55:15 PM

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By far the 560 Ti 448 is better.


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Would I be seeing a dramatic frame rate rise that you know of?


Yes the performance difference will be very noticible, especially in graphically taxing games at 1920x1080
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June 14, 2012 1:20:51 PM

Playing at 1920x1080 you'll really want to go higher than the GTX 560. Ti and Ti x448 are good choices. You may also want to look at the 7850 which is my personal favorite at near that price point. You may also want to consider the GTX 570.
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a b U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 1:28:32 PM

Another good card in that range is the 6950. Right now, it's on sale for $200 with a $10 rebate and it also comes with two games (Dirt3 and BF3)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6950 is roughly the same performance as the original 560 TI (384 cores). For $190, it's a great deal.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 1:46:15 PM

Well if were going to bring other cards into this here a thought do you have a case with great cooling great thermal performance if so the $210= GTX480 which eats the 560 Ti 448 and 560TI and 6950 for breakfast!
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a c 230 U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 2:13:18 PM

570 boards that fail testing on one of the SM's are salvaged and sold as 560 - 448's.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 200.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.44 - $ 0.51
$ 210.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.42 - $ 0.49
$ 240.00 560-448 (501/835) $ 0.48 - $ 0.57

As you can see above, the 560-448 gets just 6 fps more than the 560 Ti (900Mhz) for an additional $30 and it gets beat by that 560 in SLI. The cost per frame (lowest from newgg's current pricing on major brand) is 14% higher as single card and about 16% higher in SLI. I have two other concerns about the 448:

1. It's based upon the 570 and the 570 was the weakest card of the nVidia 5xx lineup from both an OC standpoint (due to a rather weak VRM on the reference cards) and a yield standpoint (the reason we have a 448). The 560 Ti, when equipped with a decent PCB, VRM and cooler has proved itself to be among the best f the bunch in this department recahing OC's of more than 30%. The 570 can also be a good overclocker, provided ya get one which also has the better PCB and beefed up VRM..... see the link below for which ones are which.

http://www.overclock.net/t/929152/have-you-killed-a-570...

2. It's a "limited edition" card due to the nature of the source materials meaning if ya wanna add a 2nd card, it's going to be difficult to find a match.

Look at the non-reference 560 Ti designs, factory OC'd to 900 Mhz. Among them you will find several models that have upgrade dPCB's and beefed up VRMs. The ones w/ 7 phases or more and the special coolers have been known to top 30% overclocks over the reference card speed.

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17

Some to consider .... my fav's in bold

MSI Twin Frozr (880 MHz - 6 phase VRM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI Hawk (950Mhz - 9 phase VRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus DCII Cu TOP (900Mhz - 7 phase VRM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA SC (900Mhz - 4 phase VRM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA Classified (810 Mhz - 10 phase VRM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte OC (900Mhz - 7 phase VRM)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 7850's performance is about the same as the 560 Ti 900Mhz....for about $50 more
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a b U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 2:13:31 PM

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Nods thanks for info! Well that really sucks!


Yea, it's a good card, and it was at a great price for a while there.

recon-uk will be disappointed :lol: 
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 2:27:02 PM

blade061188 said:
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Nods thanks for info! Well that really sucks!


Yea, it's a good card, and it was at a great price for a while there.

recon-uk will be disappointed :lol: 
Indeed he will.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 7:15:39 PM

vmem said:
recon has stopped recommending the 480 at the new price :p 

meanwhile, it still goes for $232 on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EHWMP6/ref=s9_simh...
I think i will stop recommending it myself unless it goes back down to 210 i just can't justify it's current price tag :pfff: 
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 8:01:37 PM

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I know what value is ;) 

@ $220 on tiger direct right now with free shipping, deffo a buyer still.
:o  really that what it is i must of read it wrong i was very tired when i looked i thought it was 220 after mail in rebate which i know many don't want nothing to do with that i myself don't mess with mail in rebates not that there not a good option for some they clearly are but not my thing. :lol: 
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 8:26:46 PM

@recon-uk think there is any truth to this customer comment? "I bought the Super Clocked version of this card, and will likely buy a second in the near future. As some people have pointed out they do run hot, pull the thing apart and you'll find out why. The thermal paste is gooped up all over the place, I highly recommend cleaning it off and applying some OCZ Freeze. Enjoy 0 lag on all your games at max".
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a b U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 8:27:04 PM

Happens to everyone :) 

Is OP still around? We've been talking about deals, but we haven't heard from him in a while...

BTW glad to hear it's still only $420 as opposed to $450
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 8:30:34 PM

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Yes.... doing the exact same thing dropped my temps by 7c back on my stock coolers ;) 
I know one thing OCZ Freeze is discontinued what would you suggest using
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 14, 2012 8:53:24 PM

@recon-uk o.k. thank you!
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June 21, 2012 1:20:59 PM

blade061188 said:
Happens to everyone :) 

Is OP still around? We've been talking about deals, but we haven't heard from him in a while...

BTW glad to hear it's still only $420 as opposed to $450

I'm still around, sorry about that! I forgot to mention I'm from Australia so TigerDirect and Newegg aren't in the picture.. I think so far I've decided I'll go with 2x ASUS GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II Overclocked 1GB cards.
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June 29, 2012 7:18:49 AM

Update: I've decided to save a bit more and go with the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 OC 2GB
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June 29, 2012 7:52:56 AM

Nice choice op. gtx 670 good card
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