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August 5, 2012 4:35:33 AM

Apologies if in wrong category.

Do these pieces and parts work together?
If not, please list a part around the same price that does.

(sorry for extremely long names by amazon)


-OCZ Fatal1ty 750W Modular Gaming Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

-Seagate Barracuda 7200 1.5 TB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive ST31500341AS-Ba​re Drive

-Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

-EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 2048 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 2DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Graphics Card, 02G-P3-1559-KR

-Corsair Vengeance 12 GB ( 3 x 4 GB ) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 Memory Kit for Intel Core i7 SDRAM CMZ12GX3M3A1600​C9

-P6X58-E WS Motherboard

-Intel Core i7-3930K Hexa-Core Processor 3.2 Ghz 12 MB Cache LGA 2011 - BX80619I73930K

-Nzxt Technologies Phantom with Green Trim (Green LED) Enthusiast Full Tower Case - Phan-002Gr (Black)

Thank you for your answers, much appreciated.

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August 5, 2012 4:42:48 AM

Nope, your mobo doesn't match your processor. That mobo is an X58 one, which only supports socket LGA1366. You have a socket LGA2011 processor.

This works:
http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GA-X79-UD3-2011-Intel-Mo...

X79 motherboards are more expensive. So unless you really need the 6 core processor, I would go with an LGA1155 system.
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August 5, 2012 5:05:10 AM

Well building computers are not my forte, and this is supposed to be soley for gaming.
As long as the performance is in the state that i don't need to know what lag is anymore, whatever works.
Or I hope this build will get me close.
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August 5, 2012 5:07:59 AM

Ok, I assume you don't overclock so get something like

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Pro...
as your processor (edited: sorry for the wrong one oops. silly mistake X_X)

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-NVIDIA-Mother...
as your motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GV-N670OC-2GD-GeForce-Wi...
as your video card

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Channel-Memory-...

Then you'll have a kickass system

leave everything else as it is
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August 5, 2012 5:08:09 AM

Also...
What is the PURPOSE of this build?

If you don't do any gaming then you're likely fine with the i7's internal GPU or a different external graphics card at least.

If you are spending the money on that CPU and Graphics card for gaming then you're completely off track.

If you're spending the money for Photoshop stuff with no gaming then your build makes much more sense.

*Finally, as mentioned you have the wrong motherboard. That also means your RAM is incorrect. You want dual-channel, not triple-channel RAM.

You probably want something like this for photoshop:
16GB of DDR3 1600MHz (4x4GB configuration)
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August 5, 2012 5:15:10 AM

poudly said:
Well building computers are not my forte, and this is supposed to be soley for gaming.
As long as the performance is in the state that i don't need to know what lag is anymore, whatever works.
Or I hope this build will get me close.


Hi,
You're completely off track here with your build for a gaming PC. Your CPU is overpowered, your graphics underpowered. You have the wrong motherboard and triple-channel instead of dual-channel RAM. Also 8GB is the MAX amount you'd need for a gaming build.

If you'd like some help, I'd be happy to help you. I just need a budget for the hardware.

Recommended budget for hardware (no monitor, keyboard or mouse):
$600 to $700 - light gaming machine
$700 to $900 - Medium gaming machine
$900 to $1500 - high-end gaming machine
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August 5, 2012 5:23:15 AM

I don't mind the price of $1500, although by the time i scrape that together the latest and greatest will be out. either way, it will still be better than what i have at the moment with the advice of people who have more expertise in this area of simple confusion to the glance over. Give me a build that more appropriately fits my needs, and you don't know how appreciated that would be.
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August 5, 2012 5:23:56 AM

Use the parts I showed you as well as the other parts you started with, just make sure to replace some of the parts with the ones I listed. It should end up in the correct budge range and would be really powerful.
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August 5, 2012 5:25:56 AM

So from my calculations you are looking at a $1300 pc, right?

Something like this should work well for gaming
Same NZXT case
i5-3570K
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
ASUS/ASRock/Gigabyte Z77 motherboard
GSkill/Corsair/Kingston/Mushkin/Samsung 2x4Gb 8Gb 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
Samsung 830 128gb
1 TB HDD(Samsung, Western Digital)
GTX 670
Corsair/XFX/Seasonic ~650w PSU
Same DVD Drive
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August 5, 2012 5:28:50 AM

Delirious788 said:
So from my calculations you are looking at a $1300 pc, right?

Something like this should work well for gaming
Same NZXT case
i5-3570K
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
ASUS/ASRock/Gigabyte Z77 motherboard
Samsung 830 128gb
1 TB HDD(Samsung, Western Digital)
GTX 670
Corsair/XFX/Seasonic ~650w PSU



Missing video card
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August 5, 2012 5:29:31 AM

Thank you all for your constructive criticism on my mistakes, and i love the quick sign up and quick replys of this site.

Thank you for helping me spend my money correctly.
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August 5, 2012 5:30:54 AM

theLiminator said:
Missing video card

Actually missing RAM, which I fixed already, hehe...video card GTX 670, right there in the part you quoted...
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August 5, 2012 5:32:11 AM

Best answer selected by poudly.
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August 5, 2012 5:37:05 AM

WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! Sorry, wrong best answer, no offense! BUT big problem. The CPU does not work with the motherboard.
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August 5, 2012 5:43:17 AM

MATT DAMON!!!?? can someone please decide on what works for me? now i have to regret the no take backs on best... if delirious isnt as his name describes him.
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August 5, 2012 5:44:36 AM

poudly said:
MATT DAMON!!!?? can someone please decide on what works for me? now i have to regret the no take backs on best... if delirious isnt as his name describes him.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Nice comment.
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August 5, 2012 5:48:10 AM

well delirious, if he is as wrong as you say, what will work?
I imply this as respectfully by the way.
Mind you i have the build theliminator suggested.
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August 5, 2012 5:53:45 AM

yeah I'm working on that. Basically, a cross between what you and him have made and my build. Links to come.
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August 5, 2012 5:58:52 AM

Everyone, i need a second on that.
if the motion is carried, i love it.
if not, then this may be a long night for me and whoever cares.
Also, what would be the difference and i5 and i7.
Bah, im lost. as long as amazon and this site says spend on it.
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August 5, 2012 6:03:29 AM

Sorry, for the first mistake, but I guarantee that it is correct. See the title of the processor?

Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K

LGA 1155 is the socket

the title of the motherboard is: Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 AMD CrossFireX/NVIDIA SLI Dual LAN Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77X-UD5H

It also lists LGA 1155 as the socket.

Since the board uses the new Z77 chipset, you won't need to flash the bios to ensure compatibility with your ivy bridge CPU (the 3570k), therefore everything is compatible without any issues.

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August 5, 2012 6:07:31 AM

Makes enough sense, but wouldn't a i7 be best? If an i7 fits? btw, what is the difference between the two?
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August 5, 2012 6:11:07 AM
August 5, 2012 6:15:31 AM

poudly said:
Makes enough sense, but wouldn't a i7 be best? If an i7 fits? btw, what is the difference between the two?


i7 just has hyper-threading, so it creates "8 threads" from the physical actual 4 cores. i5 just has 4 threads with the 4 actual cores. So yes it is better but for gaming there is not really any performance gain, so the $100 extra dollars is spent on GPU which will make a difference.
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August 5, 2012 6:16:34 AM

The psu and hdd drive links take me to the home page of newegg. please relink.
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August 5, 2012 6:24:34 AM

The i7-3930K you had originally listed is a 6 core CPU with hyper-thearding and kicks butt, but unless you are going to do photoshop, video rendering/editing, there is not much incentive to spend an extra $300 on a CPU and extra $100 on a motherboard. That is another $400, which is another GTX 670 for SLI, which will give you a lot more fps in games than a 6 core CPU.
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August 5, 2012 6:30:54 AM

alright, i looked through the builds of both. theliminator's revised.
i need the hdd and psu links of delirious to be relinked because they take me to newegg's homepage, providing no support.

Difference: the video card. read through the specs, seems identical except the brandname.

similarity: cpu seems to be same.

difference: motherboard, and i dont know what makes the good pick.

difference: ram, not sure how to pick.

Cant see delirious hdd or psu.

dvd drive can die. just need basic, which you both provided.

case: compatible. so far.

Debate on my behalf?
Please and Thankyou.
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August 5, 2012 6:40:40 AM

ok so i have the new psu to match.

ima post the build that is currently in the inventory of, amazon. yay simplistic shopping methods.

Corsair Enthusiast TX V2 Series 650-Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified High Performance Modular Power Supply CP-9020002-NA

Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K

Corsair Vengeance Blue 16 GB DDR3 SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit CMZ16GX3M4A1600​C9B

GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 Windforce OC 2048MB GDDR5 256-bit PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Graphics Card

Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 AMD CrossFireX/NVID​IA SLI Dual LAN Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77X-UD5H

Seagate Barracuda 7200 1.5 TB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive ST31500341AS-Ba​re Drive

Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

Nzxt Technologies Phantom with Green Trim (Green LED) Enthusiast Full Tower Case - Phan-002Gr (Black)

Fingers= crossed
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August 5, 2012 6:44:37 AM

I think evga gpu is a little bit faster and has 5 yr warranty versus 3 yrs, but honestly Gigabyte/ASUS/EVGA are all solid cards.

ASRock motherboard is the solid basic decent motherboard. Gigabyte UD5H is better in some aspects, depends really on how much you want to spend. Really any ASUS/ASRock/Gigabyte Z77 board between $120-180 is what you want. Just check ratings/reviews on newegg and whats in budget.

Ram: Corsair/GSkill DDR3 1600 MHz 240 Pin 2x4Gb or 4x4Gb. Again depends on what you want to spend. Preferably low profile heatsink in case you add an aftermarket CPU cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO.
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August 5, 2012 6:48:19 AM

so i take it im good to go?
amazon says $1200 so we went DOWN from 1300.
if you wanna put that money ( an extra 1-$300) take your pick. like i said its for gaming and fps increase = golden.
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August 5, 2012 6:58:05 AM

Thank everyone for their helpfullness, i now have what i believe is a good gaming comp build. if anyone begs to differ, please do. it might work out something unmissed, or help the purpose.
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August 5, 2012 7:00:54 AM

Add a samsung 830 ssd, 256Gb. It wont add fps, but will make game load times a LOT faster. For $300 or less there isnt much more you can to add fps, unless you get a HD 7970 Ghz Edition GPU or GTX 680, both for $100 more, but not really worth it for $100. The GTX 670 is really good performance for price. Hard to beat.
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August 5, 2012 12:47:03 PM

- recommend a 128GB Samsung 830 SSD, but
- get a second 2TB hard drive (i.e. WD GREEN) for games, backup of SSD, download etc

- graphics card? The new Sapphire Tech Vapor-X HD7970 GHz 3GB (1050 MHz max) is my current recommend unless you specifically want an NVidia card (if so then maybe the MSI Frozr III 670 or 680)

This new GHz card should perform on average about 10% faster than a stock HD7970 and be reasonably quiet. Probably the best value in high-end gaming cards at this time.

- backup your SSD (Acronis True Image has a FREE version at the WD or Seagate site. Must have one of their drives. I've RESTORED due to virus and other issues three times now. Highly recommended.)

*Games and SSD:
There simply wasn't much difference in game loading times going to an SSD. I was surprised too but tested this on a few games and got a 25% average boost going to a SATA3 SSD from a hard drive.

My average game is about 10GB, but my five largest games came to 124GB so the space can go pretty quickly.

SSD space usage:
If you don't install any games then even 128GB might seem overkill, but it's not. With 8GB (16GB will use more) of RAM and several applications, System Restore Points etc the amount of SSD usage will likely drift upwards over a few months until you hit about 60GB usage. An SSD will lose a very small amout over time and you always want a buffer so basically 60GB SSD's tend to end up being too small for most people.

I don't have a problem with 256GB SSD's but I just don't see the point for most people. I stick by this:
Drive #1: 128GB Samsung 830 SSD
Drive #2: 2TB WD GREEN (games, SSD backup image, downloads, media..)

*I have STEAM installed on my second hard drive. I simply installed STEAM, then created this folder:
E:\Steam

Once Steam is installed and the folder (on the hard drive) is chosen it will automatically download and install to this folder. There's nothing left to do.

For non-Steam games I simply added a "Games" folder to the root of my E-drive and point to it during installation of non-Steam games (use "custom" install, not "quick" or whatever.).
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