6230 Firmware? - mmc & FAQs

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:35:42 +1000, syd <sunnysyd02@hotmail.com.au>
wrote:

>Can someone direct me to the FAQs for this group?

Don't really exist.

>IS there anywhere to download the latest firmware for a nokia 6230 ver.
>4.28 and if there is how do you load it into the phone?

You can't. It's available on a secure part of the Nokia web site
that's accessible by Nokia service centres only.

>Telstra (australia) wants to charge me $40.00 for the upgrade. The phone
>is only 1 week old! Good on ya telstra and good on ya nokia for your
>poor service!

Register your handset with Club Nokia and you should get the firmware
update free, provided you can detail to the Service Centre what issues
you are having with the release you have on your handset. (Shouldn't
be difficult - there are plenty to choose from!)

That's how it works in the UK anyway; sorry if Oz is different.

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"syd" <sunnysyd02@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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> IS there anywhere to download the latest firmware for a nokia 6230 ver.
> 4.28 and if there is how do you load it into the phone?

No, unless you're a Nokia Service Centre engineer. You need some VERY
expensive equipment to do it as well.

Choose a problem that is known in the firmware version you have and say that
the new firmware claims to fix this problem. It should be done for free as
you've had the phone less than a year and it doesn't do what it claims due
to one or more firmware bugs.

Just curious... you mentioned MMC in the subject but didn't say anything
about it in your post. Are you having MMC problems? If so, there seems to be
little improvement in later firmware versions. I have 4.28 (the latest) and
I still had to do all the usual tricks to get my MMC to work (renaming,
etc). What's your MMC problem?

Adam

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> I am about to get my 6230 firmware flashed from 3.15 to 4.28.
> Anyone got any good reason why I shouldn't do this?

No I can't find one, but can you inform us of what changes can you observe
after the upgrade?

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THats right i did forget something. The phone won't recognise a 512meg
mmc. The card has been formatted, renamed, files loaded via card
reader, I stood on one leg and hopped around - I didn't think this would
actually help but it was worth a try.

ta

Adam Greatrix wrote:
> "syd" <sunnysyd02@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4Q0Tc.24925$%r.258388@nasal.pacific.net.au...
>
>>IS there anywhere to download the latest firmware for a nokia 6230 ver.
>>4.28 and if there is how do you load it into the phone?
>
>
> No, unless you're a Nokia Service Centre engineer. You need some VERY
> expensive equipment to do it as well.
>
> Choose a problem that is known in the firmware version you have and say that
> the new firmware claims to fix this problem. It should be done for free as
> you've had the phone less than a year and it doesn't do what it claims due
> to one or more firmware bugs.
>
> Just curious... you mentioned MMC in the subject but didn't say anything
> about it in your post. Are you having MMC problems? If so, there seems to be
> little improvement in later firmware versions. I have 4.28 (the latest) and
> I still had to do all the usual tricks to get my MMC to work (renaming,
> etc). What's your MMC problem?
>
> Adam
>
>

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Nokia service centre? Any chance you know where in elizabeth st?

Andy Bolger wrote:
> the nokia s.c. in elizabeth st upgraded my 6310i no questions asked, for
> free, took abt 3 hours.
> andy
>
> "syd" <sunnysyd02@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4Q0Tc.24925$%r.258388@nasal.pacific.net.au...
>
>>Can someone direct me to the FAQs for this group?
>>
>>IS there anywhere to download the latest firmware for a nokia 6230 ver.
>>4.28 and if there is how do you load it into the phone?
>>
>>Telstra (australia) wants to charge me $40.00 for the upgrade. The phone
>>is only 1 week old! Good on ya telstra and good on ya nokia for your
>>poor service!
>>
>
>
>

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"syd" <sunnysyd02@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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> THats right i did forget something. The phone won't recognise a 512meg
> mmc. The card has been formatted, renamed, files loaded via card
> reader, I stood on one leg and hopped around - I didn't think this would
> actually help but it was worth a try.

Yeah, I've read reports that it works with some 512 cards, but this could be
coincidence down to firmware versions. I have the latest firmware (4.28) but
no 512 card to test it with. I only have a 256 one. Whenever anyone asks
these people who say they have a working 512mb card to confirm the card's
manufacturer and phone firmware version we seem to only get silence.

So I ask again - anyone out there using a 512MB card with a Nokia 6230, and
the card works? If so, what firmware are you using and what manufacturer of
card? Lets see if we can work out some common criteria for getting these
cards working.

Adam

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> So I ask again - anyone out there using a 512MB card with a Nokia 6230,
and
> the card works? If so, what firmware are you using and what manufacturer
of
> card? Lets see if we can work out some common criteria for getting these
> cards working.

So I repeat again - use google - this subject has been done to death
elsewhere:

http://www.howardforums.com/showth [...] did=351248

http://www.mobiledia.com/forum/topic14970.html

http://www.expansys.com/forumthrea [...] hread=1767
--

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440 Elizabeth St Melbourne tel 96394255 fax 96393044

"syd" <sunnysyd02@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Nokia service centre? Any chance you know where in elizabeth st?
>
> Andy Bolger wrote:
> > the nokia s.c. in elizabeth st upgraded my 6310i no questions asked, for
> > free, took abt 3 hours.
> > andy
> >
> > "syd" <sunnysyd02@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:4Q0Tc.24925$%r.258388@nasal.pacific.net.au...
> >
> >>Can someone direct me to the FAQs for this group?
> >>
> >>IS there anywhere to download the latest firmware for a nokia 6230 ver.
> >>4.28 and if there is how do you load it into the phone?
> >>
> >>Telstra (australia) wants to charge me $40.00 for the upgrade. The phone
> >>is only 1 week old! Good on ya telstra and good on ya nokia for your
> >>poor service!
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

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"lesshaste" <rcliffor@jesus.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Adam,
>
> Please just ignore anyone who says in reply to the question "How can we
> learn more about this problem?" that we should stop trying to help
> ourselves and settle for whatever we know now, even if that is very
little.
>
> In other words, keep up the good work! Lots of people want to be sure
> that any 512MB card they buy will work and equally, lots of people don't
> want to be limited to two particular UK suppliers.

I agree with this also, thanks for the reply.

Adam

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"+-Del-+" <--superlfc--@NOlfc4everMORE.comSPAM> wrote in message
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> So leave it then, there is *NO* definitve answer.

Not yet, but that's only because the correct questions haven't beeen asked
and answered correctly.

> > I only thing I have ever implied was
> > unclear, was the information already out there about 512MB MMC
> > compatibility.
>
> No idea what you are on about here.

That's pretty easy to understand, the information about compatibility
between 512MB MMC cards and the Nokia 6230 that is currently available on
the internet is unclear. If one person says a combination works and another
says it doesn't, that makes it unclear. This is what was going on in the
forums you pointed to, and elsewhere.

> Because, as as been shown, it has been done to death elsewhere, and there
is
> a different answer every day even for those with the same firmware with
the
> same card - there are different answers, no point in keep re-inventing the
> wheel.

You're wrong. The problem is in the way the questions are asked and the way
they're answered. It's very simple and easy to be more specific. You simply
need to make sure people follow a simple procedure before claiming something
doesn't work. In this case, for example, making sure they've tried the
common solutions (such as renaming the card) BEFORE they claim a combination
doesn't work.

> Only solution is to get a MMC from somewhere that will refund or replace
> with an alternative, and those 2 place previously mentioned will try and
> find you, or others, a card that will work with your phone or refund you.
>
> Move on.

Give up you mean?

That's not the only solution at all, that's just narrow-mindedness. It is
entirely possible to create a definitive list of which 512MB MMCs will work
with which firmwares, it just takes the CORRECT questions to be asked, and
people to follow some simple steps before they answer.

People don't want to be limited to a couple (or few more) companies that
will offer that particular service. People don't want to have to return
their goods or wait while the company tries to find one that will work. What
people want is to know which card works for their phone, and to go an buy it
from whichever shop they want.

I'm going to leave it here as we're going round in circles now. I don't want
to spam this newsgroup with a pointless argument. There are replies
elsewhere in this thread supporting me, that's all I need. So long as there
are people out there who could benefit from this information and want it,
I'm not going to be perturbed by people like you trying to put me off trying
to help them.

Adam

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"+-Del-+" <--superlfc--@NOlfc4everMORE.comSPAM> wrote in message
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> Anyone posted one bit of info you require yet - no, and I wonder why.

LOL, you're so wrong it's fantastic. Yes, one person has posted on here
(look for yourself!), there are previous replies in other threads on this
topic, and 7 people have emailed me personally with details of working and
not working combinations.

So far I have:
ATP works with 3.15, 3.17.
TEC works with 3.15 (reports incorrect size).
Hitachi works with 3.17.
Microsim works with 3.15.
Mobymemory works with 3.14, 3.15, 3.17, 4.28.
Pretec worth with 3.14 and 4.28.

Kodak is not recognised at all on 3.15 and 3.18 (so probably others too).

The list is far from complete of course.

> You son have your head up your arse.


Whatever - but in under 24 hours I've already got a list of 11 confirmed
working combinations, and 2 confirmed not working combinations. This is
demonstratable proof that you were wrong.

On top of that, I continue to get emails and replies in this thread from
people supporting me and calling you various names. I don't see much support
for your arrogant attitude, however.

Just answer me one question - Why are you so against me doing this? It
doesn't do you any harm whatsoever if I take some time to compile an
accurate list. It helps lots of people as this is a VERY commonly asked
question about the 6230. It's easy for me to do. I already have good
results... what's your problem with this? Can anyone else answer this?
What's his problem?

Adam

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I forgot to say its called FT512 MMc Transcend Multimedia card
I am not recommending it as i have had it two days but so far so good
Hope this help people choose


On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:40:14 -0700, neil <kingbong@fairadsl.co.uk>
wrote:

>...
>I have just got my 512mb card ( 57Quid from OFFTEK) and having read
>this group was worried. But all is well, after formatting on the phone
>and uploading aload of MP3s , I now have 273 mb free memory acorrding
>to the phone settings. i have checked my firmware as detailed inth
>group and its 4.28
>cheers kingbong
>
>
>..>>>
>
>
>
>On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 15:04:29 +0100, "Adam Greatrix"
><extorian@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"syd" <sunnysyd02@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:kIcTc.25524$%r.259474@nasal.pacific.net.au...
>>> THats right i did forget something. The phone won't recognise a 512meg
>>> mmc. The card has been formatted, renamed, files loaded via card
>>> reader, I stood on one leg and hopped around - I didn't think this would
>>> actually help but it was worth a try.
>>
>>Yeah, I've read reports that it works with some 512 cards, but this could be
>>coincidence down to firmware versions. I have the latest firmware (4.28) but
>>no 512 card to test it with. I only have a 256 one. Whenever anyone asks
>>these people who say they have a working 512mb card to confirm the card's
>>manufacturer and phone firmware version we seem to only get silence.
>>
>>So I ask again - anyone out there using a 512MB card with a Nokia 6230, and
>>the card works? If so, what firmware are you using and what manufacturer of
>>card? Lets see if we can work out some common criteria for getting these
>>cards working.
>>
>>Adam
>>