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August 5, 2012 8:29:20 PM

Approximate purchase date: Probably the last week of August, maybe sooner

Budget Range: $2,100 to $2,500 after rebates.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (top priority), school work, web browsing, netfix/espn3 viewing.

Parts Not Required: I need everything, I'm building this baby from the ground up.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: NewEgg.com -- I see a lot of people buying from newegg on this forum, so I assume it's good. I could be open to something else if they are truely superior.

Country: Albuquierque, New Mexico, United States

Parts Preferences:by brand or type: I have always used NVIDIA, so that is my preference for GPU. I need a professional looking case, not one that looks like it belongs to a 15 year old boy--I think that Corsair Obsidian is a good look for me, but I am open to other ideas.

Overclocking: Maybe in the future once I get a bit more experienced with my PC

SLI or Crossfire: Most likely. I am kind of stuck here -- see my comments about monitor resolution. I am considering dual 670s, that seems pretty common around here. Again, I am open to other options. I do want this computer to be a gaming beast, so I am leaning towards SLI.

Monitor resolution: This is where I need some advice--I need a pretty big monitor, one large enough to display at least 2 word docs at once. I am leaning toward a 27" monitor which I believe are usually 2560x1600, but I don't know if I can afford that kind of resultion. On the other hand, I dont want to game at a lame resolution just for the sake of having a large monitor.

Additional Comments: I want this machine to absolutely chew through the most demanding games. My biggest area of confusion is monitor size vs resolution and the hardware I will need to support such a display while still having smooth frame rates. I must have smooth frame rates as I play a lot of RTS games. I want to get the most gaming bang for my buck here--I won't be able to afford a nice computer for at least 2 more years.

The area that I need the most help with is displays. I guess I want the biggest monitor that I can afford while maintaining sharp resolution and smooth frame rates. If push comes to shove I will take smooth frame rates and sharp resolution over sheer size.

Thanks in advance for all of your help. I am a PC building noob and I am willing to learn as much as possible. Any questions, just ask! THANKS! :D 
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 8:32:06 PM

Are you okay with a monitor that is 1/2 the price of similar monitors, but has much better image quality than say a Dell UltraSharp U2711?
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August 5, 2012 8:33:35 PM

You should ask him if it's alright to import a monitor from Korea, cuz that's what you're suggesting right?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 8:36:55 PM

Yeah.
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August 5, 2012 9:32:22 PM

Um, I am not sure. What sort of monitor is this, and what is the risk/benifit?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 9:34:31 PM

Risk is that it is A-, meaning it MIGHT have 1-2 dead pixels, but you HAVE to look for them and want to find them to see them. I DO NOT recommend doing that as it will ruin your whole experiences.
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August 5, 2012 9:40:12 PM

Yeah, get a monitor (25X14) from Korea for $300 and a couple 670s.
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August 5, 2012 9:43:23 PM

cuecuemore said:
Yeah, get a monitor (25X14) from Korea for $300 and a couple 670s.


Okay thanks I will for sure check out getting my monitor from Korea, even though it does seem a bit intimidating. Is there a particular Korean monitor that is recognized as the best for gaming and quality by PC enthusiasts?

Now I just need some help with the rest of the build! :D 
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 9:49:21 PM

I have been recommending this build a lot, but for a good reason: it is good price/performance:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($102.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1264.45
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-05 17:31 EDT-0400)

Add a second GTX 670. If you want, you can change the GPU to an EVGA FTW or the Gigabyte cooler GTX 670.
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August 5, 2012 9:56:06 PM

azeem40 said:
I have been recommending this build a lot, but for a good reason: it is good price/performance:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($102.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1264.45
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-05 17:31 EDT-0400)

Add a second GTX 670. If you want, you can change the GPU to an EVGA FTW or the Gigabyte cooler GTX 670.


So, if I pop in an extra 670 and all, then you think this build would be sufficient to run any modern game on max settings with over 60 fps at 25X14? Is there any way that I could squeeze more performance out of it?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 9:56:48 PM

Yes, certainly. At your budget, you can't get any better than this IMO.
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August 5, 2012 10:02:02 PM

Which GPU do you reccomend? EVGA FTW or the Gigabyte cooler 670? And this might seem like a very silly question, but adding the 2nd 670 wont screw up the compatibility? Again, I am a newb.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 10:05:29 PM

EVGA FTW. The Gigabyte cooler puts the air back into the case, where the case fans have to deal with it. The EVGA FTW exhausts it directly out of the case.
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August 5, 2012 10:06:04 PM

And is the ASUS more expensive than the evga for a reason, or is it just pricing?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 10:07:46 PM

It is 1/4th as quiet, and runs cooler at load, but runs 1C hotter or so at idle.
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August 5, 2012 10:28:13 PM

azeem40, Apparantly the ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard support's crossfire but not SLI according to one of the comments. Do you know of any replacements?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 10:32:10 PM

Throw two of any of those GTX 670's down below in SLI and add a 120Hz refresh rate monitor and you have the gaming rig from hell. This build is pure gaming with no bottlenecks. 120Hz makes your gaming as smooth as butter with this much fire power. That Corsair case down below comes with an LED on/off switch and multi channel fan controller. That way you can turn those LED's off and control the fan speed while your at it.


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Tower-Gaming-CC-9... $119.15 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-M12II-750-BRONZE-Power-S... $119.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SeaSonic M12II 750 SS-750AM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Semi-modular Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $396.98 save: $13.00 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $63.99 FREE SHIPPING
Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 997015

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $16.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036Q7MV0/ref=s9_hps_... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Drive--S... $187.97 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive- SDSSDX-240G-G25

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $88.73 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

Total: $1,153.80 *not including rebates


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $399.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASUS GTX670-DC2-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $409.99 (Before $25.00 Mail-In Rebate Card) FREE SHIPPING
MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $399.99 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... <----- 120Hz LED monitors @ Newegg

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical-Gaming-High-Prec... $35.31 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Logitech Optical Gaming Mouse G400 with High-Precision 3600 DPI Optical Engine (910-002277)

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-JQD-00001-SideWinder-X4... $47.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Microsoft SideWinder X4 Keyboard

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CA-9011111-WW-Vengeance-A... $67.50 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair CA-9011111-WW Vengeance 1300 Analog Gaming Headset


http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme6/ <---- another look at that board along with a link to the latest bios update

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-extreme6-z77a-g... <----- review of that board w/benchmarks

http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-500r-mid-tower-ca... <------ another look at that case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <----- that same case on newegg w/customer reviews

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=265... <----- review of that CM cpu h/s @ Frosty Tech

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm <----- that same CM cpu h/s on Frosty Tech's Top 5 list
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 10:36:31 PM

If you want a PC with a monitor than that build is just great for you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($51.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 3 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($457.86 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($457.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec P280 ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: OCZ 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell U2711 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($791.82 @ Amazon)
Total: $2504.44
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-05 18:33 EDT-0400)

You will be able to play every game at its maximum settings at 60 FPS!

You should also consider gaming/working on three monitors at once.With a PC that powerfull, smooth gameplay won't be a problem.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This is one of the best monitors you gan buy in the 200-300$ range.(The best if image quality is important for you)
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 10:45:26 PM

nstiver said:
azeem40, Apparantly the ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard support's crossfire but not SLI according to one of the comments. Do you know of any replacements?

I meant to say Z77 Extreme4. I would not get the monitor in Kamen's build. It is of an inferior e-IPS panel. Get the H-IPS Catleap.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 10:48:54 PM

I would go with Why_Me build nothing personal guys i think it's in the OP best interest for what hes wanting
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 10:54:24 PM

He doesn't look like he is interested in 120Hz. Btw, the specs on the manufacturer's page tells you nothing about how good a monitor is. Check reviews by tftcentral, prad.de, and flatpanelshd.
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August 5, 2012 10:56:32 PM

So, with the monitor in Why_Me's build, how does that stack up as a gaming monitor? vs say, a 27 inch H-IPS Catleap monitor? I don't necessarily need the 4 more inches, I am more concerned with picture quality and resolution.
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August 5, 2012 10:58:21 PM

does 120Hz mean faster FPS and smoother play? Would why_me's build be enough to run a H-IPS Catleap monitor?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 10:59:06 PM

Go with Why_Me build it's better for what you want but let azeem40 help you with picking a monitor because i am no good in that area lol
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August 5, 2012 11:02:07 PM

So Azeem40, would whyme's build be compatible with the H-IPS Catleap 27 incher?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 11:04:52 PM

Yes. It will.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 11:06:49 PM

Yes. It will.

And YES, the image quality of the Catleap is LEAPS and BOUNDS better than a TN Panel. You will be amazed at 2560x1440.
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August 5, 2012 11:56:05 PM

You won't get a minimum of 60 fps in everything with the details maxed out, though everything will be playable. That's just a lot of real estate on the monitor. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely the way to go.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2012 11:59:16 PM

With two 670s, he will.
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August 6, 2012 1:23:04 AM

See, I'm not sure about the trade off. Should I go with 23 inch with sli 670s and get the 60 min fps or should I roll with the 27" 25x14 and take the fps hit? How much of a frame hit are we talking here?
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August 6, 2012 1:23:09 AM

Go 25x14.

Edit: The higher pixel density can make this look better automatically at lower detail settings. What games are you looking at playing?

Edit 2: Because if it's SC2 and COD then you can max everything out with a single 670, if it's BF3 then SLI is the price of entry.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 1:24:14 AM

nstiver said:
See, I'm not sure about the trade off. Should I go with 23 inch with sli 670s and get the 60 min fps or should I roll with the 27" 25x14 and take the fps hit? How much of a frame hit are we talking here?

Check the link in cuecuemore's post right above yours. It has all the benchmarks in that link.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 1:29:04 AM

cuecuemore said:
You won't get a minimum of 60 fps in everything with the details maxed out, though everything will be playable. That's just a lot of real estate on the monitor. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely the way to go.

It seems to me it would suck spending $2500 on a gaming build and not being able to play everything on ultra high details. Wait until newer and more graphical demanding games come out like they always do and it's only going to get worse in regards to FPS. It defeats the purpose of a gaming build if you ask me. I play FPS though and Frames Per Second makes all the difference. I prefer smooth game play myself.
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August 6, 2012 1:46:04 AM

Ya, I'm almost tending away from the 25x14 simply because the technology just doesn't seem to have caught up to the demands of that resolution on the newer games, based on those benchmarks of metro 3030. Just to clarify I play sc2 but I'm getting this rig so I can expand my horizons into the most graphically demanding games out there. I don't want to be gaming at 30 fps just for the sake of a huge screen. On the other hand gamut at 25x14 would be cool. It is a real conundrum.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 1:52:44 AM

It is something you have to experience. I would try out 120Hz first. Then try 2560x1440.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 1:54:45 AM

It is something you have to experience. I would try out 120Hz first. Then try 2560x1440. Btw, that benchmark doesnt show 2560x1440 mate.
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August 6, 2012 2:09:45 AM

Amongst the 19x12, do you know of any monitors that are head and shoulders above the rest for gaming? What should I look for?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 2:19:16 AM

1920x1200 will not be 120hz. It is limited to 1080p and below.
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August 6, 2012 2:31:11 AM

And what exactly are the benefits of 120 hz
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 2:33:33 AM

Smoother game play and better black levels.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 2:40:19 AM

nstiver said:
And what exactly are the benefits of 120 hz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... <----- 1900 x 1200 is a dying breed. Those are what Newegg has for LED back lit monitors in that resolution. They started dying out with everyone wanting 1080P some years back.
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August 6, 2012 2:50:22 AM

I suppose 1080 is where it's at then. So, the 120hz translates into higher fps potentially? There is a lot of conflicting information about this out there
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 3:02:18 AM

It doesnt matter of the fps. Anything will be smoother at 120hz.
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August 6, 2012 3:23:14 AM

This is all very interesting considering this guy has a $2500 budget.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 3:37:24 AM

Yes, at $2500, he can fit SLI 670s and a 2560x1440 monitor.
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August 6, 2012 3:50:44 AM

zloginet said:
This is all very interesting considering this guy has a $2500 budget.


As in, these builds are going over budget? I am actually leaning towards 1080 at this point so I don't see how this is a problem.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2012 3:56:46 AM

No.
Example:

I have been recommending this build a lot, but for a good reason: it is good price/performance:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($102.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1264.45
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-05 17:31 EDT-0400)

Add a second GTX 670. If you want, you can change the GPU to an EVGA FTW or the Gigabyte cooler GTX 670.

That was the build I suggested earlier. Adding a second GTX 670 will make the build around $1600. A 120Hz monitor will push it to around $1900, the Catleap will also push to $1900. A Dell IPS 2560x1440 will push it to around $2300.
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