3570k vs 8350

[cheti]

Hey,
currently i have a system and planning to upgrade it:
FX-8120 @ 4.0ghz (wont go over 4.0, might be the motherboards fault)
GA-990FXA-UD3 Rev 1.0 (no LLC, bad overclock possibly)
GTX 560 ASUS Direct CU 2 TOP
Corsair GS600
Bitfenix Merc Beta (really bad temps, bad airflow, no good cable managment options and no good fan mounting options)

So i have a budget of about 650 euros and I dno which way to upgrade.
Either, get:

A)
3570k
z77x-ud3h
7950 sapphire

B)
FX-8350
7950 sapphire
500R Corsair case
More fans for more iarflow and better OC possibly if current CPU OC is not the MB fault (any opinions on that plz)


Intel Pros and cons:
+ Better performance in RIFT (main game i play) and in most games.
+ Less heat and power draw
- No good airflow and OC possibly
- Not able to stream games as well as fx-8120

AMD Pros and cons:
+ Gets me a case and better overclocking possibly


Any opinions ? I play CPU-bound games and stream them aswell which is quite cpu heavy. Can a 3570k handle streaming + playing cpu heavy games at the same time better than 8120 or 8350 ?

 

[azathoth]

The 3570k, even at stock clocks will be MUCH faster than an overclocked 8350 for everything except applications such as media encoding, which you're not doing.

The 3570k can be very easily overclocked to 4.5Ghz, and will absolutely dominate the processing capabilities of the 8350.

On your pro's and cons list, it will be much better for streaming your game than the 8120 or the 8350, because the CPU is significantly faster.

The only con I see, is that you need a different motherboard, which will probably be $120 ontop of the processor, rather than just buying an FX-8350.

If you are streaming games, and it is your feed that appears to be choppy rather than your gameplay DURING streaming, then your problem here is actually the upload speed of your network.

If you are serious with your streaming, and you justify the price tag of smoother gameplay then the i5-3570k would be a much better choice than the FX-8350, even accounting for the new motherboard you shall require.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

^ +1

 

[bigshootr8]

^+2

 

[cheti]

3570k it is, i will be losing some OC potential tho with my bad case and airflow tho.
i do have a hyper 212 evo tho.

so 3570k will definetly be better than 8350 in livestreaming wise.
is the z77x-ud3h a good motherboard ? (140 euros)

 

[bigshootr8]

You would have an easier time with a 3570k then you would with a 8350 honestly. If you wanted to get more into overclocking you would want to look towards something like a NOCTUA NH-D14

 

[bigshootr8]

the D3H is a decent enough board as well as other boards that are out there like the ASROCK Extreme 4

 

[xFriarx]

As the others have said, the i5 is the way to go, it should toast the AMD at stock speeds and an evo should be able to get you a small but decent overclock, depending on how terrible your airflow really is. If you can, try to put a push/pull fan setup on it, if you do not have it that way already.

I can't say much about the UD3H, it does seem to have decent reviews, but I will vouch for the Extreme4.

I wouldn't recommend investing in a Noctua cooler though, until you upgrade your case that is.

 

[cheti]

im buying my parts from arvutikeskus.ee - if you can find a decent mobo for 120-150 euros then ill go with that, the best i found was x77z-ud3h.

 

[FinneousPJ]

I'll go against the mainstream and say the cost-benefit analysis for the 3570K +new mobo is not worth it. Just get a bigger, badder GPU and try to figure out why your FX won't OC higher. Save your money for now, at least until the next generation of CPUs.

 

[cheti]

well my cpu just wont go over 4.0

ive gone above and beyond with the hassle and i just cant figure it out. tried many many many methods and it wont go stable past 4.0. do what you wish.

anyways, i still cant decide which way to upgrade :/

 

[bigshootr8]

read reviews on the piledriver 8350 and I think it will become more clear for you which you should choose.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_vishera_fx8350_piledriver_review/1

 

[cheti]

well, by going with 8350 i can buy a better case (corsair 500r) for a better overall look and life span cause its a lot cooler than my bitfenix merc beta.

i could possibly OC more aswell than my current 4.0ghz on 8120 (could it be a mobos fault)

and also instead of 7950 i could buy a 7970.

 

[Uther39]

I would go with the 8350 and the better case and gpu, as thats an all round better package, oh and theres lots of people on here getting there 8350s on that evo board to 4.8ghz and beyound with a couple of hours effort.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1318995/official-fx-8320-fx-8350-vishera-owners-club/5830#post_18854435

 

[cheti]

ye i cant get my 8120 above 4.0 and thats the problem. i dont want to get the 8350 if i know my mobo is the limitation or the fault.

 

[professorturtle]

3570K hands down. Best performance/price for gaming. Alternatively, you can OC it higher to reach faster speeds. A case - you can change it anytime without having any effect on Windows, etc. A CPU and new mobo - you'll most likely need to reinstall.

Get the hardware now, the case can wait.
Go Intel.

 

[boyang02]

3570k obviously AMD's 8 core CPUs are just marketing gimmicks, Searching any benchmarks 3570k will win

 

[bigshootr8]

The better gaming chip is the 3570k hands down but depending on your budget that may change.

 

[cheti]

yep,
got a 3570k, z77x-ud3h and a 7950

 

[professorturtle]

yep,
got a 3570k, z77x-ud3h and a 7950

excellent choice of parts.

 

[cheti]

excellent choice of parts.

yeap, afaik z77x-ud3h is an excellent mobo for 140 euros than can deliver a good OC aswell.
and the 7950 was a sapphire OC version for only 260 euros as an xmas discount

 

[Lazar_99]

^ +1

oh look another person with the same CPU and GPU as me well all i can say is the i5 will dominate in gaming but in high threaded applications the 8350 will dominate. as for the 6850 i'd say its heavily bottlenecking the i5-3570k lol

 

[iam2thecrowe]

oh look another person with the same CPU and GPU as me well all i can say is the i5 will dominate in gaming but in high threaded applications the 8350 will dominate. as for the 6850 i'd say its heavily bottlenecking the i5-3570k lol

Might be a bottleneck now, but i am not going to have to upgrade it for a long time, that was my aim.

 

[bigshootr8]

I can't imagine the 2 6850's bottlenecking that i5 3570k that is nuts.

 

[Lazar_99]

yeap, afaik z77x-ud3h is an excellent mobo for 140 euros than can deliver a good OC aswell.
and the 7950 was a sapphire OC version for only 260 euros as an xmas discount

Are you kidding me? 260 euros for a 7950??? i want one....