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December 21, 2012 1:22:39 PM

hi ready to start new build since this is my first total custom build I need some advice,
here is a list of my parts that I already have, I plan to add a liquid cooling system and run cross fire, will prob add some bells and whistles but for now I need to get a psu' (that's where i'm getting confused)
the C/M case has a little plastic houseing over the psu inside measurements puts it a little sly of 7 inchs wide makin my choices even more confussing
whats the differance between simi-modular and modular'
I was thinking one of the following;

XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Hybrid RS-850-SPHA-D3 850W Intel ATX 12V V2.3 & SSI EPS 12V V2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Panel Power Supply with Fan Control

KINGWIN LZP-850 850W ATX 12V v2.2 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
( this is the tight one depending whether psu is 7.09 wide or long spec don't say) I could leave the plastic cover off if it get too tight. this is the one i'm leaning to

ok now there is a forth choice being ;

SeaSonic X Series X-850 (SS-850KM Active PFC F3) 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply


Parts list


ASRock Z77 Extreme6/TB4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

GIGABYTE GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

XFX Double D FX-787A-CDBC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition Black Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Crucial M4 CT512M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL10D-16GBXL



thank you for any advice you can give me

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December 21, 2012 1:27:34 PM

semi modular means some of the cables can be detached while modular means you can detach all of the cables...its usefull because you can get rid of the cables you will not be using to make your inside of the case more tidy...better airflow

your build looks good, i would go for a smaller ssd and a regular magnetic drive... dont forget to pick up windows oem 7/8
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December 21, 2012 3:49:03 PM

id go with the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

seasonic fully modular, 80+gold top ps maker seasonic hard to beat.

and get this hd+ssd combo instead of just 1 ssd drive.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

corsair 256gb neutron+caviar black 1tb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

also a good cooler if u wanna overclock eventually:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

32$ best bang for bucks cooler :) 

also id buy this instead of the 7870 2gigs

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

269$ after rebate if not get this 7870

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

if u cannot afford the extra 50$, but def worth it if u can

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December 21, 2012 4:26:47 PM

Seasonic, PC&P, and if you're willing to pay, EVGA make the best power supplies. A good one is the Silencer Series, you can pick up the Mk II 750W Silver+ version for I believe 80 bucks, 750W is enough for this system IMO, too much unusued power means the PSU will die faster.

Do you really need 512GB of SSD space? I'd reccomend a 256GB or a 180GB with a 1TB Drive or something, but if you really need that much SSD I'd reccomend the Corsair Force or even better, the OCZ Vertex 4 over that any day.

For your GPU I'd reccomend you pay a little extra for a 7950, the 7950 is more stable(no blackscreens/screen tears of the 78xx series) and it's a huge jump in performance due to the 384-bit memory bus, 3GB memory, and 1792 processing units. If you decide to go with HDD+SSD then this is where to spend the leftover money.

Good luck!
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December 21, 2012 4:49:17 PM

darksparten said:
Seasonic, PC&P, and if you're willing to pay, EVGA make the best power supplies. A good one is the Silencer Series, you can pick up the Mk II 750W Silver+ version for I believe 80 bucks, 750W is enough for this system IMO, too much unusued power means the PSU will die faster.

Do you really need 512GB of SSD space? I'd reccomend a 256GB or a 180GB with a 1TB Drive or something, but if you really need that much SSD I'd reccomend the Corsair Force or even better, the OCZ Vertex 4 over that any day.

For your GPU I'd reccomend you pay a little extra for a 7950, the 7950 is more stable(no blackscreens/screen tears of the 78xx series) and it's a huge jump in performance due to the 384-bit memory bus, 3GB memory, and 1792 processing units. If you decide to go with HDD+SSD then this is where to spend the leftover money.

Good luck!



EVGA does not make power supplies, they are a reseller. Their Supernova(I believe FSP built) series are presumably
pretty good, but I would not select one of theirs over either of the XFX or Superflower models
the OP had already selected, or any Seasonic gold or platinum model.

A PSU with more power than needed will not die quicker, that's a wrong statement.
In fact johnnyguru the top psu review site even suggests it is beneficial in many instances.

Power Supply Basics: jonnyguru

Is there such a thing as "too much power"?

Generally, no. A power supply only puts out as much power as needed by the system's components. In some cases, an 800W power supply may actually use less power from the wall than a 500W power supply, depending on the efficiency of the units. Often times, buying an "oversized" PSU is a good choice due to it's ability to perform even under higher temperatures, a quieter fan because the unit is delivering a lower percentage of it's total capability and considerable system upgradability without having to worry about having enough power when upgrading a graphics card, adding a graphics card for SLI or additional hard drives.
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a b ) Power supply
December 21, 2012 4:50:50 PM

your right oem companies make powersupply for evga but im unshur witch one.

also ur system only utilizes the power required to run it, but its always fun to have more headroom for an upgrade down the line.

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December 21, 2012 5:02:00 PM

iceclock said:
your right oem companies make powersupply for evga but im unshur witch one.

also ur system only utilizes the power required to run it, but its always fun to have more headroom for an upgrade down the line.



i totally agree with upgrades down the line thats me always upgradeing
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a b ) Power supply
December 21, 2012 5:03:48 PM

yes why always buy a new powersupply when u can buy a stronger one now, and not buy a second powersupply down the line, for me a decent powersupply is a longterm investement that i keep for many years, thats why i invest in quality.

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December 21, 2012 5:05:24 PM

toyftw said:
EVGA does not make power supplies, they are a reseller. Their Supernova(I believe FSP built) series are presumably
pretty good, but I would not select one of theirs over either of the XFX or Superflower models
the OP had already selected, or any Seasonic gold or platinum model.

A PSU with more power than needed will not die quicker, that's a wrong statement.
In fact johnnyguru the top psu review site even suggests it is beneficial in many instances.

Power Supply Basics: jonnyguru

Is there such a thing as "too much power"?

Generally, no. A power supply only puts out as much power as needed by the system's components. In some cases, an 800W power supply may actually use less power from the wall than a 500W power supply, depending on the efficiency of the units. Often times, buying an "oversized" PSU is a good choice due to it's ability to perform even under higher temperatures, a quieter fan because the unit is delivering a lower percentage of it's total capability and considerable system upgradability without having to worry about having enough power when upgrading a graphics card, adding a graphics card for SLI or additional hard drives.


thanks for your input now one been cross off my list and been replaced with another one like i said soooo confused
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December 21, 2012 5:07:52 PM

crashes1 said:
thanks for your input now one been cross off my list and been replaced with another one like i said soooo confused


You weren't too confused - you came up with three good selections before you asked for opinions,
seems non-confused to me.

Tom
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a b ) Power supply
December 21, 2012 5:08:57 PM

agreed
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December 22, 2012 12:40:06 AM

ok so its down to two
KINGWIN LZP-850 850W ATX 12V v2.2 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
or
SeaSonic X Series X-850 (SS-850KM Active PFC F3) 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
lean towards the sea on this cheaper and like the reviews especialty the ones say they are under rated.I just have trouble with the gold vs platinum thing its a mind thing
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a b ) Power supply
December 22, 2012 2:44:30 AM

seasonic for the win, even bronze 80+ is enought, gold is def top tier, no need for platinum dude :) ,

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December 22, 2012 11:32:33 AM

sea it is thanks for all the help
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December 22, 2012 11:36:15 AM

toyftw said:
You weren't too confused - you came up with three good selections before you asked for opinions,
seems non-confused to me.

Tom

thanks for the lead to seasonic for that reason the best answer go to you
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December 22, 2012 11:37:38 AM

Best answer selected by crashes1.
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December 22, 2012 12:05:19 PM

you guys have been a big help so i hope i can ask one more question
whats your take on a
Western Digital WD VelociRaptor WD3000HLHX 300GB 10000 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
vs.
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
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