Looking to upgrade my 5 year old fried radeonx1900xtx

Well, I finally took out my 5 year old gaming rig and decided to replace the fried Radeon X1900XTX in it.

-Here are my system specs (not really sure what to include):
HP Pavilion a1310n
Athlon 64 (S) 3700+ 2.2 GHz
1GB memory
480W PSU
Running on Windows XP: Media Center Edition

-The games I want to be able to play at decent performance/quality are Counterstrike:source and Diablo 3.

-I've been looking at some used cards on craigslist but don't know which would be the best for me.

Radeon HD 5750 ($70)
http://austin.craigslist.org/sys/3054992845.html

Radeon HD 6870 ($140)
http://austin.craigslist.org/sys/3078916754.html

Radeon HD 6850 ($120)
http://austin.craigslist.org/sys/3071507189.html

-There's a bunch of other ones I found too. There's just so many that I'm not sure which one would be the best for me. Any suggestions/recommendations would be great.
-Ideally, I would like to get a card for under $100, but my budget is $150-$200.

Thanks in advance.
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  1. You might have the no video issue with a version 2.1 GPU in your old HP. I would say that all these cards you list are going to be severely CPU bottlenecked by your old single core Athlon. Look for a used 9800GT or max HD4850, GTS250 or GTS450.
  2. I wouldn't EVER buy a used or refurbished video card, especially from craigslist/ebay. Looking at your computer model on HP's website it says you have a pcie x16 slot which is good. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&dlc=en&docname=c00571922&lc=en

    I don't think you'd have a problem playing css but diablo 3 min requirements call atleast an dual core AMD.

    I'd look at the Radeon 6670 which is like ~$60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600083901%20600144219&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

    or the Radeon 7750 which is like ~$110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709+600286767+600298541&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=48&description=&hisInDesc=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=

    maybe someone else will know if your CPU will bottleneck these cards or not and if you'd actually be able to run diablo 3
  3. Seriously - you need to think about replacing more than just the gpu.
    -Bruce
  4. dish_moose said:
    Seriously - you need to think about replacing more than just the gpu.
    -Bruce

    Actually the best advice so far!!!
  5. Well, I'm assuming I won't be able to make this rig play high-end games like Diablo 3. That's fine then. I guess I will make this desktop solely for CS:S, which it was once able to run perfectly fine.

    Flank21, you are also probably right. I don't think I will be buying a used card as so many things can go wrong.

    So, my question is what would be the best card for the budget to be able to play cs:s?

    Also, how will I know if a card will "bottleneck"?
  6. About the bottlenect question, any reasonably modern GPU WILL be bottlenecked by the Single core CPU
  7. When my X1900XT died I replaced it with a Radeon HD 5850 PCI-e 2.0 card. My CPU back then is the same as it is right now; a quad core Q9450.

    Your single core CPU will bottleneck most modern video cards. Plus your old PCI-e 1.0/1.1 slot may not be compatible with a PCI-e 2.1 or 3.0 card. As mentioned above, you really ought to buy a new computer.

    If money is a huge constraint, then consider the following Radeon HD 4770 for $44. It is a PCI-e 2.0 which is 100% compatible with the older PCI-e 1.0/1.1 slot. While not the latest and great, it will be an improvement compared to a X1900XTX.

    http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=7120674000G-CO&utm_source=GoogleProducts&utm_medium=ShoppingSites&utm_campaign=7120674000G-CO

    I assume the card is slow enough that your CPU will not bottleneck it. Not exactly the most flattering thing to say about a graphics card, but often at times when reality smacks you in the face it is not a pleasant sensation.
  8. That HD4770 is a great choice! Even an upgrade from what you had.
  9. okay, i found this geforce 9800gt on CL for $75.

    http://austin.craigslist.org/eld/2998403309.html

    how will the HD4770 compare to the gefore 9800gt performance wise and capability wise? which is better for the dollars? Obviously what you've suggest is cheaper.
  10. 9800GT is a little more powerful but if you look at the price difference then the HD4770 is a better buy. What about ebay? http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=9800gt&_sacat=0&_odkw=980gt&_osacat=0
  11. swishersweet said:
    Well, I'm assuming I won't be able to make this rig play high-end games like Diablo 3. That's fine then. I guess I will make this desktop solely for CS:S, which it was once able to run perfectly fine.

    Flank21, you are also probably right. I don't think I will be buying a used card as so many things can go wrong.

    So, my question is what would be the best card for the budget to be able to play cs:s?

    Also, how will I know if a card will "bottleneck"?


    LOL, by todays standards Diablo 3 is not a high-end game. Battlefield 3 is a high end game. However, with that CPU, Diablo 3 would still be difficult to play because it requires a Dual core CPU running at 2Ghz or above. See this: http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/diablo-iii-system-requirements

    You should be able to use a Radeon HD 3000 series or midrange Radeon HD 4000 series with it

    i.e. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129209
    or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150594 (this ones a limited time shell shocker)

    Personally, I would just donate that to
  12. buying a used one off ebay seems a little risky. You don't think people would try to sell a broken card on ebay? I would see if the card works first if I were to buy it off craigslist, but ebay I wouldn't be able to make sure it works.

    -nvm. I see you can buy new cards on ebay.
  13. swishersweet said:
    buying a used one off ebay seems a little risky. You don't think people would try to sell a broken card on ebay? I would see if the card works first if I were to buy it off craigslist, but ebay I wouldn't be able to make sure it works.

    -nvm. I see you can buy new cards on ebay.

    Shopping on ebay is all in the persons rating! Look those up, even some of the used ones give a few days of guarantee. It is all about shopping smart.
  14. Okay, so with all these cards. How do I choose the best one?
  15. If you are referring to the 9800GT then just look at return policies and user ratings, really does not matter what brand if known, like EVGA, Asus, MSI, XFX, ........
  16. I mean like with all the cards suggested on here.
  17. HD4670 is even an upgrade from your old X1900. In this chart you will see them all in performance groups http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
  18. JKatwyopc said:
    Battlefield 3 is a high end game

    LOL thats funny....
    If your price range is $150-$200 get a Phenom Quad core: http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-Black-3-4Ghz-4000MHZ/dp/B002SRQ214/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339852943&sr=8-1&keywords=phenom (which I'm sure you could find cheaper somewhere as this is on Amazon.
    Add a cheap motherboard from Gigabyte and Asrock and with a 6870 (Which is by far the best out of all of them as it has great bang for buck and even handles surround gaming on three 42inch monitors really well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mJeefx5_Qc) you shall have a system that will be able to handle any, and I mean any, game mostly on ultra settings.
  19. If you don't want to risk buying a refurbished card which may or may not work and if it dies you are back to square 1, then the retail boxed Radeon HD 4770 I linked to above for $44 is your best bet. It comes with a 1 year warranty.

    As stated, it is not as fast as a retail boxed 9800GT, but it is a lot cheaper and it is still a significant improvement over the X1900XTX.
  20. Cyberhawk said:
    LOL thats funny....
    If your price range is $150-$200 get a Phenom Quad core: http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-Black-3-4Ghz-4000MHZ/dp/B002SRQ214/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339852943&sr=8-1&keywords=phenom (which I'm sure you could find cheaper somewhere as this is on Amazon.
    Add a cheap motherboard from Gigabyte and Asrock and with a 6870 (Which is by far the best out of all of them as it has great bang for buck and even handles surround gaming on three 42inch monitors really well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mJeefx5_Qc) you shall have a system that will be able to handle any, and I mean any, game mostly on ultra settings.


    Okay, I'm actually considering doing this now. But, I don't know much about computer past a graphics card. So you suggested the Phenom Quad core processor, how would I go about choosing a motherboard?
  21. If you still want to spend the same amount of money now, you can do much better than a quad-core Phenom. You can actually get The i5-3350P is a very compelling CPU and MSI Z77A-G41 motherboard. As for the GPU, This 7850 is reasonably priced.
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