I am looking to upgarde my graphics card(naaaa). Looking at the Radeon 7870 or 7850. I have read on other forums that the 7850 is a get oc'er but the 7870 still has and decent edge (when oc'ed). Got a coupon code from newegg to get $20 for anything. the 7870 is on sale for $319.00 so it willl $300 with the coupon . The most demading game I have is Battlefield 3. Looking to get into other high end games with the new graphics card. >>>>>>>>>>
MSI HD 7870 is better in cooling + overclocking, it almost destroy the HD 7850 in aspect of all the stuff, you can get the HD 7870 for about little more money but could perform very well, runs cooler, faster, more efficiency, less power consumption, not noisy and very good overclocker.
You should go with the 7870 (I did). There isn't much out there that my 7870 couldn't handle with the acception of Metro 2033 @5760x1080 on max but that is like one of the most demanding things to put your gpu through right now.
mind giving me your reasoning? personally I advocate OCing it as far as you can on stock voltage for long term use. but I'm happy to hear other people's opinions
A word of Caution:
Most overclock their GPUs using the overclock utilities available to run in the operating system and IMO a guide is only necessary for those seeking to BIOS flash their cards.
Anyone assuming your factory mass produced graphics card has the heat sink perfectly seated, could be making a massive mistake overclocking the graphics card with a poorly seated heat sink.
You need to know whats going on under the hood of your graphics card before you even consider overclocking it.
From my own experience overclocking a GPU can lead to either instant death or a crippled card, one reason being crappy factory installation of the heat sink, as hot as the GPUs get if you're going to overclock yours, you need to pull the heat sink and investigate the contact footprint, between the GPU/Memory Chips/ and Voltage Regulators.
Thermal pads are not to be reused, so if you need thermal pads, do not take your card apart until you have in hand what you need to replace, you may be lucky and have a perfectly fitted card, or you may be playing Russian Roulette with it with each overclock step.
All it takes is one memory chip or voltage regulator not making full contact, and you overclock and fry the card, you can think you're safe from the GPUs temperature readout, and not even be aware of how hot the memory chips are.
I've seen far more GPU failures than CPU.
I Voted No.
For the simple reason we have too many newbies that will throw caution to the wind, until they are crying about the consequences of exercising blind ignorance, (Meaning not aware of their cards contact footprint), just before the RMA.
Even if a guide is written doesn't mean they'll read it, seems everyone wants a quick fix today and bypass all the necessary steps to get there, but a quick fix may just be too far for the hardware and it's all over but the crying.
What one card can handle with a massive overclock the same brand card could fail with a one step increase, it is possible and it can and does happen.
Fair enough argument and very sound reasoning. I was more asking for my own purposes, toward which I must say that if you bought a factory OC edition top end card like the MSI lightning etc, OC it to the max. if it burns, the manufacturer didn't make it properly it