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AMD Radeon 7870 or 7850

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June 16, 2012 3:40:05 AM

I am looking to upgarde my graphics card(naaaa). Looking at the Radeon 7870 or 7850. I have read on other forums that the 7850 is a get oc'er but the 7870 still has and decent edge (when oc'ed). Got a coupon code from newegg to get $20 for anything. the 7870 is on sale for $319.00 so it willl $300 with the coupon :D  . The most demading game I have is Battlefield 3. Looking to get into other high end games with the new graphics card. :D  >>>>>>>>>>

7870: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Other Specs

Intel i5 2500k non oc'ed yet

8gb HyperX Ram 1333mhz

750w OCZ w/ 4 pcie power connectors

Cooler Masrer HAF X 932 :sol: 


More about : amd radeon 7870 7850

June 16, 2012 3:43:27 AM

how'd you get that coupon? btw im in the same position as you.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
June 16, 2012 3:45:48 AM

7870 is faster regardless.
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June 16, 2012 4:02:16 AM

lolwatpear said:
how'd you get that coupon? btw im in the same position as you.

Got it in an email.
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June 16, 2012 4:02:58 AM

amuffin said:
7870 is faster regardless.

Is it a good oc'er?
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a c 106 U Graphics card
June 16, 2012 4:11:37 AM

7870 overclocks better
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June 16, 2012 4:35:03 AM

Cerenas said:
Got it in an email.


is it from the newsletter?
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a c 91 U Graphics card
June 16, 2012 5:13:50 AM

lolwatpear said:
is it from the newsletter?


lol, I'd like a coupon too!!!

anyway, back on topic, get the 7870. it's a great deal for that sale. normally, if prices are all equal, I'd recommend msi or sapphire cooler over XFX, but this is not the case here.

as for OCing, for simplicity's sake, let's say the 7870 and 7850 OC equally well (arguably true depending on the make and model), in which case the 7870 is well worth it's money :) 

hope that helps
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June 16, 2012 5:22:51 AM

I would go with the xfx 7870 if it were purely up to those 2. But vmem did bring in an interesting challenger for a 7950 at that price, I would go with that.
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June 16, 2012 7:01:15 AM

MSI HD 7870 is better in cooling + overclocking, it almost destroy the HD 7850 in aspect of all the stuff, you can get the HD 7870 for about little more money but could perform very well, runs cooler, faster, more efficiency, less power consumption, not noisy and very good overclocker.
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June 16, 2012 7:33:13 AM

Nice chart between the two here Cerenas
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=548

Almost destroys the 7850 like xtreme5 said in some areas. And luck in overclocking will see and give you that bit extra pleasure.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
June 16, 2012 5:20:19 PM

Don't overclock your gpu, especially a higher end one like the 7870.
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June 16, 2012 5:23:47 PM

amuffin said:
Don't overclock your gpu, especially a higher end one like the 7870.


I almost agree here, only if you need it do not touch if you don't
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June 16, 2012 8:30:44 PM

amuffin said:
Don't overclock your gpu, especially a higher end one like the 7870.


mind giving me your reasoning? personally I advocate OCing it as far as you can on stock voltage for long term use. but I'm happy to hear other people's opinions
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June 16, 2012 8:54:29 PM

You should go with the 7870 (I did). There isn't much out there that my 7870 couldn't handle with the acception of Metro 2033 @5760x1080 on max but that is like one of the most demanding things to put your gpu through right now.

+1 7870

-SP
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June 16, 2012 9:22:52 PM

vmem said:
mind giving me your reasoning? personally I advocate OCing it as far as you can on stock voltage for long term use. but I'm happy to hear other people's opinions

4Ryan6's reasons.
A word of Caution:


Most overclock their GPUs using the overclock utilities available to run in the operating system and IMO a guide is only necessary for those seeking to BIOS flash their cards.


Anyone assuming your factory mass produced graphics card has the heat sink perfectly seated, could be making a massive mistake overclocking the graphics card with a poorly seated heat sink.


You need to know whats going on under the hood of your graphics card before you even consider overclocking it.


From my own experience overclocking a GPU can lead to either instant death or a crippled card, one reason being crappy factory installation of the heat sink, as hot as the GPUs get if you're going to overclock yours, you need to pull the heat sink and investigate the contact footprint, between the GPU/Memory Chips/ and Voltage Regulators.


Thermal pads are not to be reused, so if you need thermal pads, do not take your card apart until you have in hand what you need to replace, you may be lucky and have a perfectly fitted card, or you may be playing Russian Roulette with it with each overclock step.


All it takes is one memory chip or voltage regulator not making full contact, and you overclock and fry the card, you can think you're safe from the GPUs temperature readout, and not even be aware of how hot the memory chips are.


I've seen far more GPU failures than CPU.


I Voted No.


For the simple reason we have too many newbies that will throw caution to the wind, until they are crying about the consequences of exercising blind ignorance, (Meaning not aware of their cards contact footprint), just before the RMA.


Even if a guide is written doesn't mean they'll read it, seems everyone wants a quick fix today and bypass all the necessary steps to get there, but a quick fix may just be too far for the hardware and it's all over but the crying.


What one card can handle with a massive overclock the same brand card could fail with a one step increase, it is possible and it can and does happen.


Ryan
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a c 91 U Graphics card
June 16, 2012 10:29:28 PM

@amuffin

Fair enough argument and very sound reasoning. I was more asking for my own purposes, toward which I must say that if you bought a factory OC edition top end card like the MSI lightning etc, OC it to the max. if it burns, the manufacturer didn't make it properly it :p 
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